Fuel surcharge cargo vans

RoadHouse

Active Expediter
I'm sorry, I'm having computer problems posting and editing my posts on here. I meant to say earlier that I don't run more and make less, I don't run less and make more, I run more and make even more! Yu guys have to think aout all of the time you spend on the road. It has got to be worth more than 80 or 90 something cents per mile. How many of you guys are paying into social security for your retirement? What are you guys going to do if you become disaRbled and do not have any credits in SSDI? How many of you are investing in an RRRRRI forRRRRRRRRRR your retirement? How many of you guys actually have health insurance on your own and not jus through a spouse who is working a regular nine to five job? You have to have all of these things and I couldn't imagine getting all of these benefits on 80 cents per mile. There is no penion in this job, and if you're not thinking about retirement, you're really gambling with your financial future. You're not a working Joe. You can't just work for 30 years in a menial job like most American's and then have Social Security retirement income of 1300 a month because the government forced you into a retirement system. You have to put money into SSA on your own, or you have to invest into your own retrment account. You're not going to be able to drive your van forever. bet most f you guys don't even think about the future. I do, and regardless of the fact that I own my own van out right, and that my cost per mile to operate my van is relative low, I have my future to th
 

RoadHouse

Active Expediter
Sorry, I can't edit my previous posts. My computer is locking up in the edit mode. I meant to say that I have my future to look out for. I'm not going to spend thirty years doing a job that does not provide me with a home, medical insurance, a healthy savings account, a retirement plan, and a government disability safety net which is SSDI and Medicare. You all can run for peanuts. I will continue to do what works best for me in my situation. I won't look back at all of the weeks, months, and even years I've spent on the road with any regrets. Nope. I will get everything I need from this business and then some. To everyone else, I wish you luck! And as Murray can attest to, it's not always the lowest bid that gets the load. If you have a solid work reputation and a strong relationship with your brokers and 3PL'S, you will always get the load, even if your price is higher. Some brokers and 3PL's would rather pay an extra ten cents per mile just for the added peace of mind that comes along with working with a reputable contractor/carrier. Now I'm done commenting on this matter.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Roadhouse, you're absolutely right. Most out here, have no interest in having anything more than an employee mentality. Selling yourself is the difference between the customer paying an extra .50 for your truck; or better yet, call YOU up when you get in their area. Complacency sucks.

This doesn't mean getting your own authority. It's as simple as marketing yourself, as the Ateam did, and the Caffees do. It also means having standards... you know, those things that set the bar, so we better ourselves, and thus, the industry? They take care of their vans and trucks, because they know it'll come back to bite them, if they don't. Standards are the same way. The ones who care usually have business gravitate towards them, and have money to put away; the ones who don't will be crying about the good ol' days.
 

FlyingVan

Moderator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
I used to run for $1.4 a mile or more and made good money. However, things dried up, so I was doing a run or two a week. I could brag that I was making so much per mile, but I was sitting so much and chasing freight that I wasn't really making any money.
As a result I made more money the first week of this year at the new carrier than i made the whole January 2014.

To each their own. I know I am making what I need to be making where I am. When I am not doing that any more, I'll move somewhere else or get out all together. PS, good fuel mileage helps me make what I need at a lower rate.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Sorry, I can't edit my previous posts. My computer is locking up in the edit mode. I meant to say that I have my future to look out for. I'm not going to spend thirty years doing a job that does not provide me with a home, medical insurance, a healthy savings account, a retirement plan, and a government disability safety net which is SSDI and Medicare. You all can run for peanuts. I will continue to do what works best for me in my situation. I won't look back at all of the weeks, months, and even years I've spent on the road with any regrets. Nope. I will get everything I need from this business and then some. To everyone else, I wish you luck! And as Murray can attest to, it's not always the lowest bid that gets the load. If you have a solid work reputation and a strong relationship with your brokers and 3PL'S, you will always get the load, even if your price is higher. Some brokers and 3PL's would rather pay an extra ten cents per mile just for the added peace of mind that comes along with working with a reputable contractor/carrier. Now I'm done commenting on this matter.
Me too... :)
 

tyoung

Expert Expediter
Currently FedEx fsc for a gas cargo van is 5.5 CPM. So nice of them to keep the rest of what they charge the customers. It pays for less than half of my fuel :(
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Currently FedEx fsc for a gas cargo van is 5.5 CPM. So nice of them to keep the rest of what they charge the customers. It pays for less than half of my fuel :(

When did they go to a separate gas/diesel fsc? How do they calculate the gas fsc?
 

tyoung

Expert Expediter
When did they go to a separate gas/diesel fsc? How do they calculate the gas fsc?

In their infinite wisdom, they came up with this brilliant idea that started in June 2014. They supposedly use the national avg for the price. Seems to me like it's just more money for them and less for us. And they won't say how much they charge the customers for fsc. Settlement sheets always say 0.00.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Yes, just another plank in the how can we be no better than any old average carrier platform I guess. It's really sad compared to how superior and excellent they were several years ago.

I'm sure they charge the same fsc to the customer every time, the higher diesel fsc. So they are just stealing fsc money that should be going to the van.
 

deadhead

Veteran Expediter
Last week the FSC was 30 cents a mile.We get a new rate on Monday.The lower that corn feed diesel go down the FSC goes down.Two weeks ago in Texas I paid $2.46 a gallon in a small town,got Interstate Truck stop were still as high as two months ago.Remember when it was going up everyday they raise the price everyday.Well guess what the worm has turn the price is going down but they not moving down, they must think another Football team might be for sale soon.
 

tyoung

Expert Expediter
Yes, just another plank in the how can we be no better than any old average carrier platform I guess. It's really sad compared to how superior and excellent they were several years ago.

I'm sure they charge the same fsc to the customer every time, the higher diesel fsc. So they are just stealing fsc money that should be going to the van.

Agreed. That's what a fsc is supposed to be for...the driver. It wasn't intended to be a money maker for the carrier. Yeah having the FedEx name on the truck sure doesn't mean what it used to. Should be ABC Expediting now. And that's a shame.
 
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