They always were cheap on fsc, keeping a fair amount for them selves that should be going to the vehicle I imagine.
Fuel surcharge cargo vans
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They always were cheap on fsc, keeping a fair amount for them selves that should be going to the vehicle I imagine.
In other words Hawk...Let someone else carry the torch! I'll just run at my very profitable rate....
Yea but why work twice as hard to accomplish the same goals by making more money for less miles.
Just look at your sig line. Sounds hypocritical to me.
Tennesseahawk
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I don't doubt your rates are good at Murray's. You came across as just because you profit 4x your cost, doesn't mean that's a good market rate. And if you choose to run a bad rate, just because of that... well, crap on you then. There are more than enough truck drivers who lowball themselves out of business, when negotiating freight. Murray should let you sit in the computer chair for a bit. I'm surprised, tho. Either this doesn't sound like you, or I'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying. Let someone else carry the torch? If you're so hot on defining what cheap is, and being proud of that fact, why not stay with XPO? Seems like you would be in heaven there, with what seems to be your change in attitude.
Would it bother you if you bid a buck fifty on a load, and found out later, the broker would've gone to 3?
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I guess it depends on your definition of 'less' and 'more'. Maybe the definition of 'is'. Who knows? No wonder rates are worse than they were 20 years ago.
I believe we get $0.35 not .70. Although I drive a sprinter, they try to keep loads over 2000 lbs off me, do they don't have to pay sprinter pay...so I get cv rate. I've been told this by one of the dispatchers.
I never drive for less than 1.00-1.10 on freight coming out of Chicago but I get very competitive with rates on freight back towards Chicago or near Chicago.
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GrassHopperr;719883 That's true you are indeed right an in a perfect world and market that would apply. Now if we have folks driving for lower rates an your driving for a 1.00 a mile. I guarantee your going to sit longer to get that rate. Mean time your gonna eat thru a lot of $. Now with folks driving for lower rates or "competitive rates" are u even going to get that kind of rate unless no one else is around?[/QUOTE said:
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There is still money to be made on cargo van loads. You just have to have the right contacts like CH Robinson and another 3PL called Menlo. You have to get your freight from other sources than the cheap NLM loads. But even on NLM, you can regularly get over 1.10 per miles on a lot of their loads. You guys need to figure out how to run your own freight. I'm not gonna tell you who I run for, or how I get my loads and rates, I just get them.
Most of the drivers out here today are not smart enough to figure out where the money is. Then again, I really don't want any more drivers trying to get a piece of the freight I haul. I will tell you this, that when I say I won't move my cargo van for less than a dollar per mile, that is when I lowball a load to get back into a good area. I can get up to as high at 2 dollars a mile from the right customer. I don't full around much with automotive freight unless it pays at least 1.10 per mile.
You guys who are running for 70, 80, and 90 cents per mile are selling yourselves short. I put money into an IRA account for my retirement, I pay into SSA for my retirement benefits, I am out here to make money, not to hunker down in a van running all night for 80 cents per mile. Also, I get the miles to. I don't run less and make less, I don't even run less and make more, I run more an make even more! Now that's a concept y'all should try sometime. I can't explain that to all of you who have the "employee mentality!" And, yes, some of you who are leased on to the bigger carriers as independent contractors still suffer from the employee mentality.
can run loads for whatever rate you like, just don't bash me for actually making money out here. I mean real money. Enough money to invest in my retirement, put into SSDI in case I become disabled, to pay for my property, have a large savings account, and I don't have to eat Bush baked beans. That's all I;m going to say on the matter. Carry on chaps!
Most of the drivers out here today are not smart enough to figure out where the money is. Then again, I really don't want any more drivers trying to get a piece of the freight I haul. I will tell you this, that when I say I won't move my cargo van for less than a dollar per mile, that is when I lowball a load to get back into a good area. I can get up to as high at 2 dollars a mile from the right customer. I don't full around much with automotive freight unless it pays at least 1.10 per mile.
You guys who are running for 70, 80, and 90 cents per mile are selling yourselves short. I put money into an IRA account for my retirement, I pay into SSA for my retirement benefits, I am out here to make money, not to hunker down in a van running all night for 80 cents per mile. Also, I get the miles to. I don't run less and make less, I don't even run less and make more, I run more an make even more! Now that's a concept y'all should try sometime. I can't explain that to all of you who have the "employee mentality!" And, yes, some of you who are leased on to the bigger carriers as independent contractors still suffer from the employee mentality.
can run loads for whatever rate you like, just don't bash me for actually making money out here. I mean real money. Enough money to invest in my retirement, put into SSDI in case I become disabled, to pay for my property, have a large savings account, and I don't have to eat Bush baked beans. That's all I;m going to say on the matter. Carry on chaps!
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