Foreign Workers Walk Off Job At Hershey Packaging Plant

OntarioVanMan

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Well suck it up Bubs....if you have to commute a distance to a lower paying job to even flip burgers find 2 part time hr jobs at 6 hrs a piece and make the drive worth it.....times are tough for everyone...
 

clcooper

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Well the job I took to get off of unemployment paid $8/hr and I was driving 70 miles round trip. If I needed to drive 100 miles round trip I would take a job paying $8.50/hr but I would only do it for so long then move closer.
""how much do you need to drive 50 miles one way each day and still pay your bills"" is what i asked . NOT if you ever did it why would you take .50$ more for you to drive 30 more miles . as good as you are why not go 100 miles for 7.50/hr and still pay your bills to

Well if I were unemployed I would have applications in at more than a few places and I likely wouldn't waste my time applying to places that advertised they are hiring. A lot of these people that are applying for these jobs already have a job they are just looking for a better situation, they are not going to just sit at their current job and be happy. They see an opportunity and are willing to take that risk to chase after the American Dream.
yep i have only applied for just one place . because i am just lazy as you say . you most not have looked for a job in awhile . even constrution companies want you to appl online now . and have you every heard of the state career center PA has one and it is call PA careerlink .


They may get behind on the bills for a little while but the house will not be foreclosed on in 3 months. As far as rent it can vary based on your location. The unemployed still need a house so they would still rent your house.

yes you cant read and understand what you have read
"" i asked how are they to pay for both places even for a few months on 10 dollor a hour . and how much do you think they are going to get for rent . when most that are looking are already unemployed and dont have extra money either ""

so how do they pay for a house and rent at the same time ?? on a 10$ hour pay . i guess they should work 24 hours a day and do it 7 days a week .
kind of stupid then to have a house or any other bills then . even slaves had time off

how much do you think a unemployed person can affoed to by you rent for your house ??

are you going to rent to somebody who is already behind on their bills .

why would somebody unemployed be with out a place to live to start with .??

I think there is a move toward a one world government because of things like NAFTA, NATO, the UN, and things like the EU.

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what are they doing that you think they are moveing toward that . would it be the laws and regultions they are pasing that is taking away our freedoms and that are helping the other countries more then they do the USA .

or is it because we had a congressman named weiner show his weiner .
 

clcooper

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Finally! Somebody said something senseable.

And it took a canuck to do it. ;)

i have been say that the whole time but most didnt want to read what i was saying . just wanted to judge me . and call me a whiner . and that i hate big busniness .
 

paullud

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i have been say that the whole time but most didnt want to read what i was saying . just wanted to judge me . and call me a whiner . and that i hate big busniness .

You might want to reread the whole post.

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Ragman

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i have been say that the whole time but most didnt want to read what i was saying . just wanted to judge me . and call me a whiner . and that i hate big busniness .

You have been complaining that the entire governmental structure is nothing but one big conspriacy to keep the population in slavery.

That is quite different to what OVM wrote.
 

greg334

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Well suck it up Bubs....if you have to commute a distance to a lower paying job to even flip burgers find 2 part time hr jobs at 6 hrs a piece and make the drive worth it.....times are tough for everyone...

Well here is another reason why we need to limit the green card people, they need to get with the program and try these jobs out. :D

I would like to know how many of you see 45 -60 year olds working at McDonald or some other fast food place. It is the same issue, they don't want to hire 'tweeners because they don't want those types working there.
 

layoutshooter

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Well here is another reason why we need to limit the green card people, they need to get with the program and try these jobs out. :D

I would like to know how many of you see 45 -60 year olds working at McDonald or some other fast food place. It is the same issue, they don't want to hire 'tweeners because they don't want those types working there.

They don't want to lose the "easy" employees. Kids just started are, for the most part, easy to control. They have no experience. "tweeners" often have a LOT of job experience. It is not as easy to hoodwink them, intimidate them or just plain old push them around. They are often used to being treated like adults, acting like adults, working like adults and receiving the respect that comes with it.

Many "green carders", not all, and most illegals are as easy to control as the kids are.
 

layoutshooter

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Well here is another reason why we need to limit the green card people, they need to get with the program and try these jobs out. :D

I would like to know how many of you see 45 -60 year olds working at McDonald or some other fast food place. It is the same issue, they don't want to hire 'tweeners because they don't want those types working there.

They don't want to lose the "easy" employees. Kids just started are, for the most part, easy to control. They have no experience. "tweeners" often have a LOT of job experience. It is not as easy to hoodwink them, intimidate them or just plain old push them around. They are often used to being treated like adults, acting like adults, working like adults and receiving the respect that comes with it.

Many "green carders", not all, and most illegals are as easy to control as the kids are.

When I was a retail manager I loved the extremely few hard working kids I had. The VAST majority were useless and we went through them like water. The good ones could be taught, that was fun. I hired several "older" men, all knew the "River" well and could handle customers. I did not hire any illegals.
 

OntarioVanMan

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I think some are pushing this tweener crap too hard....:rolleyes:

Ya really think MacD's want to shut the 24 hrs drive thru down for lack of staff...and they need a more mature person to oversee the youths.... so much for your tweener....


there has to be a joke in there somewhere?....LOL
 

Ragman

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....
there has to be a joke in there somewhere?....LOL

Where? :D

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greg334

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OVM, see that's what I expect from those who are clueless. read Layout's first paragraph a few times to get the idea what's going on.

Being in a management position is one thing, working on the line is another. They will hire those who have had the experience for management positions but other than that, they won't and I'm not the only one saying it.

IS there a joke somewhere?


**** no there isn't any joke - it is what many face daily.
 

paullud

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""how much do you need to drive 50 miles one way each day and still pay your bills"" is what i asked . NOT if you ever did it why would you take .50$ more for you to drive 30 more miles . as good as you are why not go 100 miles for 7.50/hr and still pay your bills to

Well I clearly stated I would take $8.50/hr. I would want .50 more an hour because if I calculate the price of gas to be $4/gallon just in case it goes up, 30 more miles a day is 150 miles a week figuring a 5 day week, and a car getting roughly 25 mpg. The math would be 150miles/25mpg= 6 gallons and 6 gallons X $4 is $24, now working just 40hrs a week the extra .50 gives me $20 so I am only looking at a $4 difference if gas goes that high. I wouldn't put myself in a position where I was driving 100 miles for $7.50/hr.

yep i have only applied for just one place . because i am just lazy as you say . you most not have looked for a job in awhile . even constrution companies want you to appl online now . and have you every heard of the state career center PA has one and it is call PA careerlink .

Please don't tell me you live in PA and are whining about not being able to get a job.

yes you cant read and understand what you have read
"" i asked how are they to pay for both places even for a few months on 10 dollor a hour . and how much do you think they are going to get for rent . when most that are looking are already unemployed and dont have extra money either ""

You actually don't understand what I wrote, if they are selling the house they will likely get behind, that is why I said that if they can sell the house in 3 months it won't be an issue. As for the rent I said it depends on location, clearly the rent is going to be different if the house is in Boonville, NY as opposed to NYC. The unemployed still need a place to live, not having extra money would mean they won't rent a house for a vacation get away.

so how do they pay for a house and rent at the same time ?? on a 10$ hour pay . i guess they should work 24 hours a day and do it 7 days a week .
kind of stupid then to have a house or any other bills then . even slaves had time off

The idea is if they rent the house out they won't be paying for it, if they sell it they won't be paying for it.

how much do you think a unemployed person can affoed to by you rent for your house ??

Huh? Do you mean how much could they afford to pay for rent? If that is what you meant the answer is it depends on household income.

are you going to rent to somebody who is already behind on their bills .

Maybe

why would somebody unemployed be with out a place to live to start with .??

They might be moving to your area to take the job you feel you are to good for.

what are they doing that you think they are moveing toward that . would it be the laws and regultions they are pasing that is taking away our freedoms and that are helping the other countries more then they do the USA .

or is it because we had a congressman named weiner show his weiner .

It is my opinion that based on what I see them trying to accomplish that they want to get each continent under one government and financial system then join everyone together, again it is an opinion based on what the governments are doing.

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paullud

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Well here is another reason why we need to limit the green card people, they need to get with the program and try these jobs out. :D

I would like to know how many of you see 45 -60 year olds working at McDonald or some other fast food place. It is the same issue, they don't want to hire 'tweeners because they don't want those types working there.

No most 45-60 year olds have put themselves in a better position than to get forced into working at McDonald's.

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OntarioVanMan

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No most 45-60 year olds have put themselves in a better position than to get forced into working at McDonald's.

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Hey $10 bucks an hr to start out where I live....and man and wife together totals 20 bucks to me....I know we have the new math out there but gee whiz...

Whether ya be shoveling crap or flipping burgers...A person has to make a living...some sound like they above flippin burgers..
 

clcooper

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You have been complaining that the entire governmental structure is nothing but one big conspriacy to keep the population in slavery.

That is quite different to what OVM wrote.

and where would you start . do you think it is the work people who got us in the trouble we are in today or do you think it was something the government has done

so who to you blame .




You might want to reread the whole post.

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NO you may want to reread the whole post and answer the question i have asked
 

clcooper

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for the mindless if you would think for once . read the message not judge the writer

do you think that the foreign workers which are college students do you think they were told any lies to get them to come over here to work . and if they were told lies . does that still make them lazy .

and who told the lies and isnt the government to protect the students .yes they were not citizens but they were given visas form our government .

now think were would /should you start fixing the problem .

read both links i posted and think who is at fault . is it truely the students fault becuase they are JUST LAZY and dont want to work .

so ask your self is there a problem . not just the little picture .the big pictrue
 

OntarioVanMan

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I suppose if the purpose of the work visit was to learn our culture they got a first hand look at how corporate America works......LOL
 

clcooper

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I suppose if the purpose of the work visit was to learn our culture they got a first hand look at how corporate America works......LOL



A J-1 visa is a non-immigrant visa issued by the United States to exchange visitors participating in programs that promote cultural exchange, especially to obtain medical or business training within the U.S.


since when did promote cultural exchange and to obtain medical or business training mean slave labor
 
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