first Mexican truck into the interior U.S.
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Think back...did You Americans react in this way when Canadian trucks were allowed here? Just saying...
IF I were a hard core Anti Mexican fan..I'd probably say...it is probably as fake as Obama's birth certificate....
Look at we cannot buy here in the U.S. trying to figure out how to just post the pictures only. But that is a VW. All the others are of our Mexico fishing trip. Every morning we had a sunrise like that. The ugly guy is me with a 50 Wahoo other picture is my brother on a 65 pound Tuna, he took over for me because my shoulder went out
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OVM, I have read truck drivers in Canada complained but not here in this country.
What people are complaining about now i that they might be hijacked if they truck into Mexico, no proof but fear. Fear is a ugly thing it can get the best of you.
BTW if Mexico puts the same rules on us as we did them then the only people that will be able to truck to Mexico are people that can speak Mexican.
What people are complaining about now i that they might be hijacked if they truck into Mexico, no proof but fear. Fear is a ugly thing it can get the best of you.
BTW if Mexico puts the same rules on us as we did them then the only people that will be able to truck to Mexico are people that can speak Mexican.
When I was a kid my uncle trucked.....there was a fright of the big bad American coming in and taking Canadian jobs...taking over the roads....taking all the loads out of Canada on the cheap....using that cheap, dirty USA diesel and undermining their way of life....
paullud
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I'm not ignoring the facts though. The system we have setup is working, why fix it? The safety of Americans is at stake here and our government is going to force this to happen. We are having enough trouble with jobs in America and the problems in this industry are only going to get worse. The issues with safety, drug cartels, corruption, and lack of qualifications aren't going to just disappear and all this for a few tariffs. We should tell them to keep their tariffs and their 20 million illegals then start giving work visas to those from South America instead and we will see who caves first. We are no longer willing to stand up for America because we are supposed to feel bad for having it good.
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paullud
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Think about the differences though, it is not even close to the same situation. I was not involved in the freight industry when Canadians were allowed in so I had no thoughts about it when it happened.
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My god don't some of you understand we have a agreement with both Mexico and Canada, it's called NAFTA. We let Canadian trucks in and made all kinds of hoops for trucks from Mexico.
As for this crap about drugs and gangs coming to America, people better wise up there here now. All the gangs in the inner cities deal drugs and murder people every day. You have the Mafia on the east cost and in the Chicago area.
As for if we should tell Mexico how they should run their trucking in Mexico, its none of our business what they do within Mexico. Our concern should be when they cross the border not before that. If the trucks come in and follow the rules (which we don't follow now in this country) then what's the beef.
Is your beef that they can run as many hours as they want in Mexico or grab a beer at lunch (drivers in this country used to do that).
There equipment, well what I've seen in Mexico running the highway not local matches our equipment.
Is it how they dress, got to tell you, they dress better then most of us at work.
Did I want this maybe not but I know we made a agreement and we should honor it or drop out of NAFTA for both Canada and Mexico.
As for this crap about drugs and gangs coming to America, people better wise up there here now. All the gangs in the inner cities deal drugs and murder people every day. You have the Mafia on the east cost and in the Chicago area.
As for if we should tell Mexico how they should run their trucking in Mexico, its none of our business what they do within Mexico. Our concern should be when they cross the border not before that. If the trucks come in and follow the rules (which we don't follow now in this country) then what's the beef.
Is your beef that they can run as many hours as they want in Mexico or grab a beer at lunch (drivers in this country used to do that).
There equipment, well what I've seen in Mexico running the highway not local matches our equipment.
Is it how they dress, got to tell you, they dress better then most of us at work.
Did I want this maybe not but I know we made a agreement and we should honor it or drop out of NAFTA for both Canada and Mexico.
paullud
Veteran Expediter
My god don't you realize where a lot of the drugs being dealt in the US are coming from. My god don't you realize I think NAFTA or any free trade is killing America and we now have a proven history of jobs going away that used to support American families.
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"The system we have setup is working, why fix it?"
The system we have setup is working.... for whom? It's not working for businesses who want their goods shipped cheaper. And that's what this is all about.
"The safety of Americans is at stake her..."
Oh, puhleeze. Mexican trucks and drivers have to pass the same tests as American and Canadian drivers do, plus Mexican trucks will be looked at even more closely than their counterparts. "Safety" is a lame catch-all that people in trucking, both those trying to institute more "because I said so" control, and those wanting to keep Mexican trucks out for fear of losing a job. It's getting as ubiquitous, and pathetic, as "But it's for the chiiiiildren." It's like cell phones, texting, GPS, CDs and the plethora of other gadgets that distract us from driving, despite there not being any kind of measurable spike in accidents. In fact, accidents and fatalities have gone down over the last few years. Automakers are equipping cars with Bluetooth so that the car will read text messages to you, and a button on the steering wheel for you to initiate a canned text reply, and lawmakers are trying to figure out how to make that illegal, dammit, and we gots to keep them Mexicans off the roads, for the safety of not only the chiiiiildren, but all of America, dammit!
The system we have setup is working.... for whom? It's not working for businesses who want their goods shipped cheaper. And that's what this is all about.
"The safety of Americans is at stake her..."
Oh, puhleeze. Mexican trucks and drivers have to pass the same tests as American and Canadian drivers do, plus Mexican trucks will be looked at even more closely than their counterparts. "Safety" is a lame catch-all that people in trucking, both those trying to institute more "because I said so" control, and those wanting to keep Mexican trucks out for fear of losing a job. It's getting as ubiquitous, and pathetic, as "But it's for the chiiiiildren." It's like cell phones, texting, GPS, CDs and the plethora of other gadgets that distract us from driving, despite there not being any kind of measurable spike in accidents. In fact, accidents and fatalities have gone down over the last few years. Automakers are equipping cars with Bluetooth so that the car will read text messages to you, and a button on the steering wheel for you to initiate a canned text reply, and lawmakers are trying to figure out how to make that illegal, dammit, and we gots to keep them Mexicans off the roads, for the safety of not only the chiiiiildren, but all of America, dammit!
ChanceMaster
Expert Expediter
My god don't you realize where a lot of the drugs being dealt in the US are coming from.
Yes, many truck loads of high potency marijuana are shipped down from CANADA every day ! Cocaine, and ecstasy seem to be popular CANADIAN exports to the US as well !
My god don't you realize I think NAFTA or any free trade is killing America and we now have a proven history of jobs going away that used to support American families.
Yes, again your educated and astute observations on NAFTA would serve our nation well. Lets close the borders and abolish NAFTA. Lets pay tarriffs on the 20 percent of our nations crude and natural gas that we import from CANADA. Also im sure that you know that 63% of everything that CANADA imports comes from the U.S.
What happened to OUR jobs going away has less to do with NAFTA,or big government, and more to do with CORPORATE GREED !
Yes, many truck loads of high potency marijuana are shipped down from CANADA every day ! Cocaine, and ecstasy seem to be popular CANADIAN exports to the US as well !
My god don't you realize I think NAFTA or any free trade is killing America and we now have a proven history of jobs going away that used to support American families.
Yes, again your educated and astute observations on NAFTA would serve our nation well. Lets close the borders and abolish NAFTA. Lets pay tarriffs on the 20 percent of our nations crude and natural gas that we import from CANADA. Also im sure that you know that 63% of everything that CANADA imports comes from the U.S.
What happened to OUR jobs going away has less to do with NAFTA,or big government, and more to do with CORPORATE GREED !
idtrans
Expert Expediter
IF I were a hard core Anti Mexican fan..I'd probably say...it is probably as fake as Obama's birth certificate....
I have no issues with the mexican drivers. BUT I do have a serious issue with many of the Eastern Europeans that cut freight rates to nothing !
paullud
Veteran Expediter
When drug cartels are running entire towns there is no reason to risk our safety given the problems we face in our country already. There are going to be other concerns of safety for jobs and on the roadways, it is reasonable to be concerned and to want to avoid a problem over an unneeded program.
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ChanceMaster
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Red, Yellow. Black, White...No Cheap freight !!
paullud
Veteran Expediter
Yes I know, I have a different opinion than you so I must be to stupid or ignorant to be allowed to have one.
Corporate greed? We are all greedy, why should a corporation be different? NAFTA is the tool they are using to outsource/insource jobs so let's get rid of it and find a better way. The government gave them the tool and imposed restrictions and costs to make it a better idea to move the jobs. This is the government at work and has less to do with corporate greed than corporations trying to survive and beat the competition.
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LisaLouHoo
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I think the weak link in NAFTA is Mexico. Sorry, but they are a Third World country on a predominantly First World continent. The baloney we were fed that it would "improve" Mexico's standard of living to a level of ours and Canada's was just that: BALONEY. I believe that spin was used to try to rally public support. The only "improvement" to Mexico is laborers make a little more per day than they did pre-NAFTA. There were those people who actually thought companies relocating there would pay the same wages to the Mexican worker that they did the US and Canadian worker, for real.
Now we have people north of Mexico who have been displaced and can't afford to buy what the Mexicans produce no matter how cheaply they make it; and to a Third World laborer, working slave labor wages is better than what they had pre-NAFTA.
NAFTA needs a total reworking, no doubt, for it seems all it has done is caused problems for US and Canada economically, and it appears it hasn't benefited the Mexicans in terms of environment or lifestyle.
"Bruises fade and bones will mend-but a psyche can be ruined FOREVER" : LisaLouHoo, c. 2008
Now we have people north of Mexico who have been displaced and can't afford to buy what the Mexicans produce no matter how cheaply they make it; and to a Third World laborer, working slave labor wages is better than what they had pre-NAFTA.
NAFTA needs a total reworking, no doubt, for it seems all it has done is caused problems for US and Canada economically, and it appears it hasn't benefited the Mexicans in terms of environment or lifestyle.
"Bruises fade and bones will mend-but a psyche can be ruined FOREVER" : LisaLouHoo, c. 2008
ChanceMaster
Expert Expediter
Whether ugly job loss stats have much to do with Nafta is far from clear. America's debt-fueled spending binge and low savings rate are mainly to blame for the current-account deficit. Many Americans lost jobs as textile, auto parts, and electronics production migrated to Mexico. But China's export takeoff has been a far bigger factor in job losses of the past five years. Investment in automation and information technology has led to massive reductions of factory workers everywhere, including China.