Feminism vs. Kirsten Dunst

cheri1122

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Oh, but there is: the bit about needing a knight in shining armor: portraying women as needing to be 'rescued' by a big strong man [as a normal routine] is highly offensive.
I believe that women help men just as often as the other way around, but does that get glorified & romanticized in fairy tales, to stroke a woman's ego?

PS Guess some celebrity opinions have merit, lol.
 

Turtle

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Oh, but there is: the bit about needing a knight in shining armor: portraying women as needing to be 'rescued' by a big strong man [as a normal routine] is highly offensive.
Highly? Highly offensive?
I find it highly offensive that you would turn "sometimes" into "a normal routine" so that you could create a context in which you could be highly offended. I find it highly offensive that you would characterize Dunst's support for her stay-at-home mom as offensive.

I also think you should steer clear of most Disney movies. Many of those will have you gouging your eyes out.
 

cheri1122

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I do avoid Disney movies - Pixar [Toy Story! Cars! Monsters Inc!] is much more my style.
I did not"characterize her support for her stay at home Mom as offensive" - not at all. Women who choose to stay at home to raise their kids need all the support they can get [from people who speak in complete sentences, lol] and they have mine. It's all about having a choice, mon frere. When I had the 'luxury' of staying home, it didn't make me feel like I was doing enough. Not sure if it's the cultural expectation, or just my own, but I need to work outside the home. Other women love it, and it's good that they can do what they love - they'd probably hate driving a truck.
Nor do I have any problem with people who prefer 'traditional' roles in their relationships - if it works for them, that's cool. I just don't believe it ought to be considered "the right way" to do it, because relationships are as unique as the people who form them.
What I find highly offensive is the "knight in shining armor" concept - that a woman needs to be 'rescued', and that only a man can do it. It plays into the myth that women are weak, men are strong, while reality is that either gender can be both, depending on the circs. When people acknowledge that reality, relationships get better, IMO.
When women expect men to rescue them, they could drown, ya know? :rolleyes:
 

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What I find highly offensive is the "knight in shining armor" concept - that a woman needs to be 'rescued', and that only a man can do it. It plays into the myth that women are weak, men are strong, while reality is that either gender can be both, depending on the circs. When people acknowledge that reality, relationships get better, IMO.
When women expect men to rescue them, they could drown, ya know? :rolleyes:
You've qualified your statement that both genders CAN BE both, not ARE both, but CAN be, and further qualified it with "depending on the circs" (circumstances, I'm assuming). That indicates it's possible, but certainly not the case in all cases, meaning that not all men are strong in every instance, and not all women are weak in every instance, nor are they the opposite in every instance. So, it appears that you are saying that, sometimes, a women can be strong, and sometimes a women can be weak, depending on the circumstances. And that, sometimes, a man can be strong and sometimes a man can be weak, depending on the circumstances.

Kirsten Dunst said, "Sometimes, you need your knight in shining armor."

And you're offended by that. Highly.
 

layoutshooter

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Funny how fighting eons of evolution seems to cause problems. The sexes are built to compliment, not compete.
 
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Turtle

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Funny how fighting eons of evolution seems to cause problems. The sexes are built to compliment, not compete.
Too true.

However, I'm gonna have to be offended, highly, by that, as well. I'm trying real hard here. Maybe I should go with deeply.
 

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Too true.

However, I'm gonna have to be offended, highly, by that, as well. I'm trying real hard here. Maybe I should go with deeply.
Why do you get to be offended? I'm never offended! I want to be offended!:rolleyes:
 

LDB

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So scoot down to the very very edge and hope to get bumped. :rolleyes:
 

xiggi

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How can us guys be offended with our white male priveledge status and all. :rolleyes:

I am offended by Cherri being offended.

Sent from my - Fisher Price ABC - 123
 

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Ragman

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I wonder if Kirsten Dunst would approve.

< Had to get the thread back on topic >
 
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