clcooper
Expert Expediter
Nobody can say this can never happen . Can you say Hitler . So why cant this happen . So keep drinking the Kool aid .
FEMA Concentration Detention Camps
FEMA Concentration Detention Camps
FEMA Concentration Detention Camps
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chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
Rex 84 goes back to Reagan and it is said that it was written by Ollie North..so much for this being a tool of the Dem's in power now....
Do they exist?? I don't know...there has been talk of them for a long time and the stories have "proven" by some and "dis-proven" by some, recently Glen Beck did a few shows on tem to debunk them...
Do I believe they exist...maybe, maybe not...do i believe our government is capable of something like this...yeap...
Do they exist?? I don't know...there has been talk of them for a long time and the stories have "proven" by some and "dis-proven" by some, recently Glen Beck did a few shows on tem to debunk them...
Do I believe they exist...maybe, maybe not...do i believe our government is capable of something like this...yeap...
clcooper
Expert Expediter
If you dont think that this is possible . keep drinking the Kool aid . because people said and thought the same thing about Hitler . what about the others leaders that were crazy like him . i am not up on all of the names .but there was other leaders that did some bad s$$t to their citizens . so if you stand back and believe all that they tell you you are allowing them to to stuff like this and other stuff .
don't something like this make you stop and think CAN THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS and then think about everything they have been doing or trying to do .
what does the saying drink the Kool aid mean . what about what happened in Waco . haven't they been doing/done research on mind control ..
Didn't the killing of Bin Liden rise Obama's ratings . sounds like mind control to me. and he is not the only one that does that close to re election time . i will pass this law and the people will think i am the best so they will forget all the stuff that i didn't do but they will remember this and they will vote for me .
make fun of me because i don't and wont drink their Kool aid . I really don’t care
I am with Chef. Do I believe they exist...maybe, maybe not...do i believe our government is capable of something like this...yeap...
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Drink the koolaid, seriously?
Look you got to ask yourself why. I mean first Fema doesn't have the power to round up people, and I doubt very much if those boneheads at Fema are capable of keeping their mouths shut after they were trained on how to administer any 'camps' so Fema may not have anything to do with it.
On top of all of this, the power that is in the hands of these people at the top depends on us - surprising fact isn't it? If we have to deal with retraining camps with dogs, etc. ... how much power do you think they would have to have to deriving a force for the enforcement of their policies which gets its men from the same people who are targeted to be in any camp. On top of that, it is revenue - tax revenue - that they need to obtain and sustain the power. It isn't like the soviet union where they taxed the crap out of the people at the same time providing them with work to do, instead it is like how do you get the revenue to remain in power at the same time there is no one to work to produce the revenue.
If this is a great big conspiracy, where are the actual facts that this all exists and why?
Could it happen here?
Sure anything is possible but not probable.
The question in the early 30's was could we become another soviet union, and it was a concern for a lot of people who also came up with these conspiracy ideas.
But it is odd when so many conservative people (glenn beck types maybe?) come up with these things and it begs the serious question wouldn't it be an issue for those who are always slamming the libs while preaching the virtual of the conservative movement at the same?
I mean they would also be in the same camps as the libs, so what's the difference?
What does Waco have to do with it?
I mean Waco was a complicated BS move on the part of the Clinton administration who used the excuse of an investigation of automatic weapons being sold from the gun shop at the compound, the feds in that case didn't need a warrant. BUT all hell came to those branch people and so it has been done with.
The odd thing is that many don't get the purpose of the concentration camp under the Nazi flag or under the British flag. Many misconstrue the Soviet camps as something that was used to eliminate people too but most of the modern take on these camps is long twisted -excluding the later use of the concentration camp to eliminate people based on religion and a number of other things. TO most, they don't get how we too had camps, and I'm not talking about the German, Italian or Japanese internment camps where they were actually treated humanly in comparison to the American POW camps in France, Germany and Italy.
I would worry more about Fema actually participating in disasters, we really don't need the feds involved at all.
Opps forgot something;
Not at all, it is about the herd mentality and how everyone uses it to convince us they are right - no matter what you are. The Germans were masters of this since the 20's but Obama makes the German propagandist proud.
Look you got to ask yourself why. I mean first Fema doesn't have the power to round up people, and I doubt very much if those boneheads at Fema are capable of keeping their mouths shut after they were trained on how to administer any 'camps' so Fema may not have anything to do with it.
On top of all of this, the power that is in the hands of these people at the top depends on us - surprising fact isn't it? If we have to deal with retraining camps with dogs, etc. ... how much power do you think they would have to have to deriving a force for the enforcement of their policies which gets its men from the same people who are targeted to be in any camp. On top of that, it is revenue - tax revenue - that they need to obtain and sustain the power. It isn't like the soviet union where they taxed the crap out of the people at the same time providing them with work to do, instead it is like how do you get the revenue to remain in power at the same time there is no one to work to produce the revenue.
If this is a great big conspiracy, where are the actual facts that this all exists and why?
Could it happen here?
Sure anything is possible but not probable.
The question in the early 30's was could we become another soviet union, and it was a concern for a lot of people who also came up with these conspiracy ideas.
But it is odd when so many conservative people (glenn beck types maybe?) come up with these things and it begs the serious question wouldn't it be an issue for those who are always slamming the libs while preaching the virtual of the conservative movement at the same?
I mean they would also be in the same camps as the libs, so what's the difference?
What does Waco have to do with it?
I mean Waco was a complicated BS move on the part of the Clinton administration who used the excuse of an investigation of automatic weapons being sold from the gun shop at the compound, the feds in that case didn't need a warrant. BUT all hell came to those branch people and so it has been done with.
The odd thing is that many don't get the purpose of the concentration camp under the Nazi flag or under the British flag. Many misconstrue the Soviet camps as something that was used to eliminate people too but most of the modern take on these camps is long twisted -excluding the later use of the concentration camp to eliminate people based on religion and a number of other things. TO most, they don't get how we too had camps, and I'm not talking about the German, Italian or Japanese internment camps where they were actually treated humanly in comparison to the American POW camps in France, Germany and Italy.
I would worry more about Fema actually participating in disasters, we really don't need the feds involved at all.
Opps forgot something;
Not at all, it is about the herd mentality and how everyone uses it to convince us they are right - no matter what you are. The Germans were masters of this since the 20's but Obama makes the German propagandist proud.
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clcooper
Expert Expediter
why does the name used mean any thing . no matter what the names does not matter. call it the Bugs Bunny camps if you want . STOP FOCUSING ON THE NAME
and it doesn't need to be a Concentration camp either . could be a work prison . if people keep believing every word that the Fed Government says it can happen
""It isn't like the soviet union where they taxed the crap out of the people at the same time providing them with work to do, """
think about what you just said . so we are not being taxed like crazy . and the government is not trying to find /make jobs for people . wasn't it said that the Fed . Government is the biggest employer . how many auto makers , phone companies, banks ,military companies, oil companies . last i knew there is only a hand full in each . and what i see they get what they want too .
the kool aid drinkers will bow down to them and keep working to make them the money they need . or they will make the ones in the camps work .
i said Waco not for what the Fed did but the people that believed what that one guy said and they worshiped him .
it has happened and it can happen again. and the people believe all the s$$t that the Fed says . have you ever known the Government to tell the truth do the right thing .
so the goverment never gave the Black men Syphilis
and it doesn't need to be a Concentration camp either . could be a work prison . if people keep believing every word that the Fed Government says it can happen
""It isn't like the soviet union where they taxed the crap out of the people at the same time providing them with work to do, """
think about what you just said . so we are not being taxed like crazy . and the government is not trying to find /make jobs for people . wasn't it said that the Fed . Government is the biggest employer . how many auto makers , phone companies, banks ,military companies, oil companies . last i knew there is only a hand full in each . and what i see they get what they want too .
the kool aid drinkers will bow down to them and keep working to make them the money they need . or they will make the ones in the camps work .
i said Waco not for what the Fed did but the people that believed what that one guy said and they worshiped him .
it has happened and it can happen again. and the people believe all the s$$t that the Fed says . have you ever known the Government to tell the truth do the right thing .
so the goverment never gave the Black men Syphilis
It is a totally different world today, things cannot be kept secret from the rest of the world like they could at one time. News travels at the speed of a keystroke now days and that goes a long way in making this type of thing next to impossible. What many were calling already setup camps were nothing more than storage for all the leftover fema trailers from Katrina. Not sure why people post on here and feel they have to do pre-emptive strikes against people who may not agree such as referring to them as koolaide drinkers. If a person doesn't agree (and I don't) discuss it in a reasonable manner and you will come off much more believable than you do when calling names.
Mr Coopers statement......He`said they might exist and does not believe it either one way or another.....that would make HIM a Koolaid drinker as well...
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Well I laughed at this, no disrespect but outside of the English use of the camps in the 19th century, the French and Germans actually used the cams as work prisons - hence the Konzentrationslager was a prison where they sent people for punishment. That all changed because of a bad political ideology gone amok.
The Soviets used Gulags which were not really prison camps but camps for political prisoners. A bit different and a bit akin like our 19th century prison.
I don't believe much of what any government says, from my township to my president, UNTIL I can verify it.
Well no we are not being taxed like crazy, no where near what they could tax us - just get the VAT in and see what it is like.
The Soviets used a planned economy which was a bad thing to do. In their world, you may not be a truck driver or a auto worker but maybe a ditch digger or what ever. You just didn't have the 'right' to go to school after your basic education which meant that you pretty much had a station in life and that was it.
The government is not trying to find or make any jobs, if they were, they would have read a history book about the depression and cast away the Keynesian style recovery and get out of the way of the economy.
Yes the government is the biggest employer but they shouldn't be - they can afford to shed 80% of the jobs they have and still be an effective government.
Yes they are hiring but have you applied for a government job? I have and I won't be getting one because I don't fit the mold of the people they want.
GET the government out of the way and you can have the auto, phone and other jobs.
BUT the problem is that without jobs, there is no power. The people in the camps can only do so much because they are limited. IT IS the same problem that the Germans faced, they used slave labor as a cheap resource but they were limited by the fact that the labor was limited to the amount of work they produced and the revenue they produced. As it was pointed out a few times, if the Germans used home front labor instead, they would have been better off on many levels, one was tax revenue to put back into the system but that's not how the economy worked then and it won't with ours.
OK I guess. I understand that he broke the law and was a gun dealer, which means that the ATF does not have to have a warrant to inspect your property. He attacked the ATF agents during an investigation and what a mess it turned out to be.
Most people want to believe that they can get something for nothing, even here with a few key senior van people who think that they can skate the law or it doesn't apply to them. IT is what I said, selfish and greed drives people to believe what they want to believe - if they believe the government is good, then to them it is. TO me it is too big and those who claim to be the right ones are no better than those they call evil.
What does that have to do with anything?
They also made hundreds of troops sit in trenches while they set off an Atomic Bomb near them, so what's the difference?
You don't see any big deal being made about that, do you?
Camps in the U.S.? Where we put people against their will for no good reason? Let's see, the internment camps where we sent Japanese Americans at the onset of the U.S. involvement of WWII.
How about the Indian reservations, would those qualify as camps?
How about the Indian reservations, would those qualify as camps?
greg334
Veteran Expediter
If I would rate the camps, I would consider the reservations among the worst of them from my visits to a few. The interment camps, including the German and Italian ones were not as bad compared to how we herded the German POWs into camps in Europe and let have of them starve or how we and the brits did the same thing to the Italians in North Africa.
I was not speaking of conditions in those camps, only pointing out that we have done this on U.S. soil before. I would be willing to bet that MOST of that activity took place with a Dumb-O-Crat in office too.
clcooper
Expert Expediter
Germans were masters of mind control RIGHT and then you say they would be proud of Obama . so are you saying that Obama is doing a good job at mind control .
how did the people like Hitler gets his people to believe in him . how did Charle Manson get those people to kill the people the did . and so forth .
""totally different world today, things cannot be kept secret from the rest of the world like they could at one time.""
are you sure about that . are you at these places when this stuff is going on . exsapmle were you in the compound when they got Bin Liden . did you do the DNA test .
so money doesnt talk . ever hear of pay offs . blackmail . ETC. what about if you want to keep your job you know what you need to do .
so if there is no paper trail it never happened
why is it We the People need to prove that we are inncent but the Government doesnt . now stop and think how things are done in a court room . so deals are not made . if the right steps are not taken the right way it never gets to the court room .
did you get a choice with the money that went to Fannie , ETC. or the auto companies . was it the best for the USA .
"""I read it on the Internet, so it must be true! """
what about the News on TV or the Newspaper . tell me which is the truth
i also read that Obama killed Osama . so are you telling me that isnt true either
Black men were given Syphilis and told it was something else . in 1973 they were given 10 million dollars . And in 1993 Bill Clinton said sorry to them .
So keep drinking the Kool aid . can somebody tell me what Kool aid drinkers mean ??
It is a fools argument to try and compare what happened with a handful of people in a foreign country like Pakistan to placing tens or even hundreds of thousands of people in US based camps.
The kool aide may very well be ib your glass.
witness23
Veteran Expediter
Jesse Ventura fan are ya?
It means to become a firm believer in something, to accept an argument or philosophy wholeheartedly or blindly without critical examination. Critical examination means to look at the facts and to draw conclusions based solely on those facts without having to create facts to fill in the blanks, or worse, to make assumptions as somehow being factual. Conspiracy theorists are particularly adept at drinking the Kool-Aid, as they will see, read or hear something that confirms what they already believe, and will often dismiss the irrefutable truth as somehow being part of the conspiracy. Cheers!