Fair Warning to White Glove Dog Owners

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Streakn1

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That still constitutes hearsay, and I'm not convinced. :(

Cheri, whos that knocking on your door? Kinda looks like the big T! Hurry, stuff Kenzy's ears with cotton so she can't hear the wistle and put some Vicks in her nose so she can't smell his treats! Don't forget the contraban in the sleeper. Rumor is they (no-named carrier) are offering a free once in a carreer life cleaning and dusting of your sleeper!!! LOL

I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist! Oh God please forgive me for I have sinned!
 

cheri1122

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I don't need to hide my dog from my carrier. If I had to choose, I'd stay where the dog is not a problem, [as TeamCaffee has]. My point is that White Glove forbids dogs, and folks who cheat the rules assume the risks thereof.
 

Turtle

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..I hope Phil's choice to post publically parts of a private conversation between Terry, Diane, and himself without Terry's consent...
Well, he wouldn't need Terry's consent for what he posted, but regardless it almost looks like the post was a back-handed plant, a calculated warning from FedEx (like the government, scare people into complying). The thread title is a definite attention-grabber.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Oh God some good comedy going on here.

Still a clusterfest.

Hey first thing is Phil talking about it means Terry has let the word out that they are enforcing the policies of the company, whether or not it is hearsay or some other form of communications or even an agreement between Phil and Terry is really irrelevant. If I was Terry, I think it would be great to get the word out like this, maybe for some of them who now realize it may be a mistake, they will dump the poor dog or cat in the truck stop. Remember we are not talking about some super secret Qualcom system that has been out for 8 months but a company policy that has been in place for years.

Number two if I can stop laughing about it, seems Phil is on a crusade to put another notch in his worry stick. EOBRs, CSA2010, now spying? Really Phil - relax.

Three Turtle said "That attitude has begun for some time now to creep into Custom Critical." well my shelled friend it has not just creep into CC but been there a long long time.

As for US citizen, as for playing by the rules and a whole bunch more things, FedEx rules and policies seem to be bent to fit their needs.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Because it isn't you who's being discussed - but would you care if 'they' said you'd been doing something you shouldn't have?
I would, if it were me.

why would you defend an issue that you can not even refute what has been posted....because you chose to not believe second hand news, that does not disqualify it from being remotely true...
 

cheri1122

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Greg: I think you misunderstood what I called hearsay: the statement that Terry has been known to poke around in personal places inside sleepers. That's a far cry from the job he is doing, as I understand it, and it's an invasion of privacy, IMO.
I know of former EO members who have stopped posting after they found FedEx monitoring their words, [something I wouldn't be comfortable with], but that's public - private space should not be open to fishing expeditions on behalf of the carrier.
 

cheri1122

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why would you defend an issue that you can not even refute what has been posted....because you chose to not believe second hand news, that does not disqualify it from being remotely true...
Rumors, hearsay, gossip: ok, when the subject is other than a person [celebrities & politicians excepted], or a person who can set the record straight.
Not ok when the person is unable to refute the allegations, as Terry is, due to the restrictions imposed on his posts here.
 

greg334

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Greg: I think you misunderstood what I called hearsay: the statement that Terry has been known to poke around in personal places inside sleepers. That's a far cry from the job he is doing, as I understand it, and it's an invasion of privacy, IMO.


Actually Cheri I appoligize, I am laughing about all of this and got things messed up - I think it is the paint fumes in the house.

Well I don't know if Terry was or has been known to poke around inside sleepers, this seems to be an legal issue and know better to assume that FedEx will cover for that. OVM made the comment and I ignored it since, or better put didn't put much into it because knowing Terry just a very little, I think he would be careful where he stepped.


I know of former EO members who have stopped posting after they found FedEx monitoring their words, [something I wouldn't be comfortable with], but that's public - private space should not be open to fishing expeditions on behalf of the carrier.

Well not being part of any rumor or any conjecture, it is very true that they judge people's ability to preform and maintain the image by what is posted by them. They may have a staff in CC but they surely do in Memphis who just do that - monitor what is written. As in the past, and I expect even now some have been sort of warned not to be too open about things and remain positive - I won't get into the pom-pom squad thing. Again this is not a rumor or conjecture.
 

davekc

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This has really turned into a comedy thread. If you can't have dogs is one of their rules, then one would think they knew that when they signed up. If they don't like it but like white glover work, there are several carriers that do the same without that restriction.
As for the Phil post on being demoralized, I am not sure where that comes from. No matter the personal performance record, the Fed doesn't trust you. Never have. It isn't by accident that they pay Terry to monitor folks for company compliance. As mentioned, that culture has been in place for quite some time.
 

iceroadtrucker

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No wonder I had a realy bad migrain when he was going through the parking lots!!! that phone. HMM
Being a Dog Face Gremlin does have its draw backs ROTFLMAO guess I found mine terries device is to me like criptanite is to super man.

But still any case go get em Terry !!!!!
 
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Streakn1

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Well, he wouldn't need Terry's consent for what he posted, but regardless it almost looks like the post was a back-handed plant, a calculated warning from FedEx (like the government, scare people into complying). The thread title is a definite attention-grabber.

I think you may truely be onto something sinister here Turtle. I wouldn't put anything past the likes of them! :p
 
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Deville

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Not having pets in a WG unit has been policy for as long as I have been there. It's nothing new it's been in effect for years. I too have a similar dog wistle app on my phone. There are many settings & I've tried various ones out on my dog, some he reacts too, some he does not. So even if Terry is using this method, it's still a crap shoot.

This poilcy is one thing That FDCC takes seriously, it's in the lease. Terry is just taking his marching orders like anyone else would & doing his job.
 

highway star

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I know of former EO members who have stopped posting after they found FedEx monitoring their words, [something I wouldn't be comfortable with], but that's public

These former members actually thought that the Fed wouldn't care what was being said about them in a public forum? LOL... They must have ridden the short bus to school. If you were the CEO of Cheri's Gettin' It There Fairly Fast Expediting Company, you wouldn't read what was posted here? I sure would if it was me.
 

ATeam

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Phil, I don't know what is going on at FedEx. Many U.S. companies are getting "goofy" to say the least. It would be a real shame if FedEx is going down that road. It will hurt them bad if it is what is going on. It always does. They will find that if they don't show trust in those working for them that they will no longer be trusted. It always goes two ways.

You make an excellent point about many companies getting goofy, and one that I had not fully considered until you mentioned it.

How many times have we had to sign a new piece of paper, give up our fingerprints, go through another background check and be subjected to more scrutiny in ways we did not before 911?

Drivers and carrriers are jumping through ridiculous hoops not for real national defense or safety reasons, but so bureaucrats, politicians and corporate climbers can justify their existence by claiming the world is a safer place because we are signing new forms and being harassed when re-entering our own country.

The easy way out is for corporations to comply without question, especially if all that is at stake for them is a heavier burden on their contractors. Terry O'Connell is not the cause of this behavior shift in the company but a manifestation of it.

I have given up far more freedom and operated under far more supervision in other work. When I was a U.S. Army infantryman they owned me and I obeyed orders without question. The difference is that as a soldier I believed I was serving a cause worth dying for. With a corporation, the more invasive and dictatorial they become, the less I like it.
 

dabluzman1

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If you want a credit card, you have to have a background check,
if you choose to speed in some localities, Big Brothers' cameras click away and send you a speeding ticket, you stop to fuel your
truck, go inside to pay, you see the tv screen with a picture of your truck at the pump. you arrive to a customers dock, walk into the receiving office and see your face on their computer screen,
you go to the airport to fly away on vacation, they xray your luggage, send you through a metal detector, have a camera trained on your face to run a recognition program and there are dogs sniffing your undies in the luggage port.

So what ya gonna do about it...........HUMmmmmmm?:cool:
 
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