Expediter Hall of Fame Voting and awards.
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Well, that is marketing Greg. Yes I would love that, but that takes away from the people we are trying to honor. This is bigger than you, me, or anyone with 100,000 post on EO. It's not about me or you Greg. It's about the people that has made a positive change in the Expediting Business over the years.
Jeff Jensen isn't going into the Expediters Hall of Fame based on how many posts he had on EO or how much everyone liked Jeff. We all loved Jeff to death because Jeff was a great person, a great man, and a GREAT friend. Jeff will be put in the Expediters Hall of Fame based on what he did over the years in Expediting. Jeff helped get EO started along with Lawrence Mc cord and many other things over the years.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Well first dave, it isn't about taking away from honoring anyone, it is about how to vote for those who are being honored. The system is simple - you participate in EO, you have a vote. NO BS, no drivers license checks just plain old participation.
BUT with that said, it is truly was about people making a positive change, and all that, then why even vote. JUST put them up and send them an award.
You completely misunderstand. THIS isn't about Jeff participating in voting, it is about voting. My suggestion, which works other places is also a great way to promote both sites and may make both sites more attractive.
BUT I go back to my other comment in this post. If this is about the people who made an impact, why even vote?
Greg...This is about the WHOLE industry...participating in EO should NOT be a requirement.....or you might as well name it the EO..HOF....this is NOT about rewarding or allowing to vote the party faithful...
greg334
Veteran Expediter
BUT see OVM, you miss the point.
First to me this is not about the WHOLE industry, just a very teeny tiny microscopic part of it. BUT not to say it is a bad thing, it isn't at all.
But with that said ...
If voting is so critical, than some established method needs to be used. Here the community where it was talked about should be the starting point, not having some complex set of rules that discourage people from even participating.
The expo has the same problem - it is one sided and not everyone goes there or wants to go there. Beside Lawrence may not say but how many people who go to the expo are people who are established in this business opposed to those who are newbies looking for answers. The Expo should be the place where the award ceremony takes place, not the voting.
Then there was mentioned sending in a copy of your CDL, which I don't see Dave having a staff of people to process it. This is also one sided because many of us refuse to send in a copy of our license for legitimate reasons and won't participate if we have to take a chance on it getting lost in transit.
SO my suggestion is neutral to a point, it allows those who want to actually participate and KNOW the history to a point participate through their activity on EO (and other websites too if need be) while at the same time it also (with help from Lawrence) allows the voting to be pretty much automated and the results instantly compiled with some very solid assurances that people get one vote (or what ever number) while keeping the idiots and spoilers out of the mix.
First to me this is not about the WHOLE industry, just a very teeny tiny microscopic part of it. BUT not to say it is a bad thing, it isn't at all.
But with that said ...
If voting is so critical, than some established method needs to be used. Here the community where it was talked about should be the starting point, not having some complex set of rules that discourage people from even participating.
The expo has the same problem - it is one sided and not everyone goes there or wants to go there. Beside Lawrence may not say but how many people who go to the expo are people who are established in this business opposed to those who are newbies looking for answers. The Expo should be the place where the award ceremony takes place, not the voting.
Then there was mentioned sending in a copy of your CDL, which I don't see Dave having a staff of people to process it. This is also one sided because many of us refuse to send in a copy of our license for legitimate reasons and won't participate if we have to take a chance on it getting lost in transit.
SO my suggestion is neutral to a point, it allows those who want to actually participate and KNOW the history to a point participate through their activity on EO (and other websites too if need be) while at the same time it also (with help from Lawrence) allows the voting to be pretty much automated and the results instantly compiled with some very solid assurances that people get one vote (or what ever number) while keeping the idiots and spoilers out of the mix.
Agreed.....we need a starting point...and EO has the reach to get out to quite a few expeditors...
and no matter, not every solution will make everyone happy, fact of life.
Greg
People can send a copy of their CDL with all the info removed or blacked out. We just need the photo and address part of their CDL. Most states now don't even put your ssn on your cdl anymore, I know Ohio don't.
Dave,
People are not going to send you a copy of CDL... even blacked out, there's still too much personal info.
In my opinion, a set of criteria needs set for inclusion. Could be nominated for contributions, long time driver, etc. Anyone can be nominated, but people nominating need to say WHY they feel that person would be a good addition.
Then, you need a cross section of voters, a committee if you will, of people who could be counted on to look at facts. The committee needs to include such a cross section of people such as to insure its not a popularity contest, and you dont get accused of selecting only right wing nuts, or left wing libs lol.
They need to have been around the industry long enough to know what they're talking about, yet trustworthy enough that they would be truthful (whether we all agree or not! )
Just my opinion.
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People are not going to send you a copy of CDL... even blacked out, there's still too much personal info.
In my opinion, a set of criteria needs set for inclusion. Could be nominated for contributions, long time driver, etc. Anyone can be nominated, but people nominating need to say WHY they feel that person would be a good addition.
Then, you need a cross section of voters, a committee if you will, of people who could be counted on to look at facts. The committee needs to include such a cross section of people such as to insure its not a popularity contest, and you dont get accused of selecting only right wing nuts, or left wing libs lol.
They need to have been around the industry long enough to know what they're talking about, yet trustworthy enough that they would be truthful (whether we all agree or not! )
Just my opinion.
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JOHNCLARK
Expert Expediter
That would be ME!!!*LOL*...Mr Popularity...
NO, ME!! It's my birthday!! It's always about you. MARSHA,MARSHA,MARSHA!!
I watch waaaaay too much Brady Bunch.
NO, ME!! It's my birthday!! It's always about you. MARSHA,MARSHA,MARSHA!!
I watch waaaaay too much Brady Bunch.
I just got hit in the nose with a football
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
So only those that hold a CDL will be allowed to vote??? There are alot of people out here running expedite that do not have a CDL...are they not considered as a knowledgeable voter or not as knowledgeable as those that do hold a CDL???
Now while I do not hold a CDL, the chances of me voting for anyone that was been in the business before I came into it and have kmoved on in one way or another and are part of the history are slim to none to begin with since i have nothing to base my vote on other then popularity, and that won't happen..so the CDL doesn;t affect me , but I am sure it will others as well as limiting people from voting down the road a few yrs from now when people that are of the currnt history of the industry work their way into a posititon to be inducted....
Now while I do not hold a CDL, the chances of me voting for anyone that was been in the business before I came into it and have kmoved on in one way or another and are part of the history are slim to none to begin with since i have nothing to base my vote on other then popularity, and that won't happen..so the CDL doesn;t affect me , but I am sure it will others as well as limiting people from voting down the road a few yrs from now when people that are of the currnt history of the industry work their way into a posititon to be inducted....
One man and/or woman= 1 vote....Acorn is not involed...no mater how many post one has.... 1 vote
It will be that way Eddie. I don't care if someone has 1 million posts, they still only would get one vote. It will be fair.
I agree Dale, we have sent out e-mails to people that we feel would be fair to the cause. These folks don't even know who else is voting on the ballots for this years EHOF. These folks are a group of our peers that have been in the Expediting Business over 5 years or more. Everyone has until April 30th to nominate who they feel would they would like to see in the EHOF. The ballots will go out to these folks in a e-mail and they will cast there vote. The ballot will have ten people that will have to have 75% of the vote in get into the EHOF.
Each person voting gets to pick four of the ten on the list. I will post more info as we move closer to the Expo.
nightcreacher
Veteran Expediter
People that have only been in expediting for a few years,won't have a clue who to vote for.There are many people that in the beginning made expediting what it is today.Heck in 1977 when I started driving truck,no one even thought about expedite service.I got into it in 1984,at Roberts Express,and the company didn't want anyone to even know what kind of freight we were hauling.If you told someone the amount of money you were making,they just called you a liar.My loads just going 1 way would pay more than the truck load guys got round trip.
You are going to have a very difficult job trying to put the deserving people into this HOF.My feelings are the best way to do this is,make a list of people with more than 10 years in expediting.Have those people make a list of the deserving people that might need to be in the HOF.Then you can put this on line and put the 10 or 20 people you want in the HOF,up for a vote with the members of EO.Thats my opinion.
You are going to have a very difficult job trying to put the deserving people into this HOF.My feelings are the best way to do this is,make a list of people with more than 10 years in expediting.Have those people make a list of the deserving people that might need to be in the HOF.Then you can put this on line and put the 10 or 20 people you want in the HOF,up for a vote with the members of EO.Thats my opinion.
That's not true. There's freight that's been run in an "expedited" fashion for many, many years. It just wasn't identified as a segment of the industry. Now that it is, some folks doing it want to feel special.
Got'cha beat by a year, I started in '76.
purgoose10
Veteran Expediter
I started in 69 but I think Roberts and expedite started about 76. Anyway before expedite and in expedites early years trucking company's just used the terms exclusive use. Later on when the roads started really getting ruff and all the trucking industry had was spring ride trucks it was hard for shippers with special freight to get small things shipped w/o damaging their products. Also the cross dock, damaged at the terminal mess and loosing freight. In the old days when break bulk freight was on the dock, high value freight was gobbled up by dishonest dock personnel (single biggest issue then). Besides pharmaceuticals cigarettes was the highest value you could haul because prior to 1970 cigarettes were not tax stamped until they reached the states they were to be sold. Large risk from hijackers. In the 80's came along computers. Starting out the bed buggers we're the only ones hauling, then came along Roberts and rest is history.
Now this is what I experienced and I know there are other things that geared expedite to what it is now but listed above is a couple of the huge issues they faced.
Now this is what I experienced and I know there are other things that geared expedite to what it is now but listed above is a couple of the huge issues they faced.
Man you guys are older then dirt...*LOL*
you don't need a HOF you need a death certificate instead..
you don't need a HOF you need a death certificate instead..