Eco Mud Flaps
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No, I am sorry there is not a volume discount.We do not get a volume discount from our provider, DuPont so at this time we cannot pass along any discount to our clients.
Eco-flaps are made from a nylon resin product from DuPont called Zytel. It is the same material used to make truck and automotive parts and heavy tool items. Each flap is individually molded and racked to dry.
If you go to jonesindustrialsales.com, on the About/Contact page there is a section on Eco-flaps with 2-pdf's. The pricing is in there.
Thanks.
Eco-flaps are made from a nylon resin product from DuPont called Zytel. It is the same material used to make truck and automotive parts and heavy tool items. Each flap is individually molded and racked to dry.
If you go to jonesindustrialsales.com, on the About/Contact page there is a section on Eco-flaps with 2-pdf's. The pricing is in there.
Thanks.
No, they are made in Chattanooga, TN by Andersen Flaps (Barry Andersen, Pres. is the inventor, his wife Rosemary is the VP). Dupont supplies the nylon resin pellets we use in the injection molding process.
I forgot to mention that we ship the flaps directly to you via FedEx Ground and since the flaps are 3.5 - 4.5 lbs in weight, the freight charges are not severe.
Jonas
I forgot to mention that we ship the flaps directly to you via FedEx Ground and since the flaps are 3.5 - 4.5 lbs in weight, the freight charges are not severe.
Jonas
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Well thanks for the info.
It would be a better to offer company discounts, but it is hard to believe that they don't happen with the list of companies that seem to use them. I work with Landstar, I think they have something like 9000 trucks in their fleet (someone correct me on that) and I would imagine if there was a decent discount, then there would be a lot of sales from that size of a fleet.
As for material cost, maybe working smart is the key, like working with a third party (another manufacturer using the same material) to buy the material to reduce the cost. Using their quantity discount for the material with a small mark-up may be a good idea to be able to offer a discount because it is hard to imagine that Dupont would custom mix the plastic for low quantity production like this.
It would be a better to offer company discounts, but it is hard to believe that they don't happen with the list of companies that seem to use them. I work with Landstar, I think they have something like 9000 trucks in their fleet (someone correct me on that) and I would imagine if there was a decent discount, then there would be a lot of sales from that size of a fleet.
As for material cost, maybe working smart is the key, like working with a third party (another manufacturer using the same material) to buy the material to reduce the cost. Using their quantity discount for the material with a small mark-up may be a good idea to be able to offer a discount because it is hard to imagine that Dupont would custom mix the plastic for low quantity production like this.
Greg,
If you check on the retail price listed in an earlier post and then compare it to the pricing at my website or at Eco-flaps main site you will see that we/I offer the lowest wholesale price. The retail price is higher because the retailer needs to charge "rent" for any item they stock. If you are putting any miles behind you each week the payoff difference between Eco-flaps and traditional flaps can be recovered in 2 weeks or less.
In terms of the manufacturing material costs, I am certain Andersen Flaps has tried to lower the cost by any means available.
Would it be better if we charged a higher price and penalized an owner/operator's small purchase and gave the big guys a break?
If you check on the retail price listed in an earlier post and then compare it to the pricing at my website or at Eco-flaps main site you will see that we/I offer the lowest wholesale price. The retail price is higher because the retailer needs to charge "rent" for any item they stock. If you are putting any miles behind you each week the payoff difference between Eco-flaps and traditional flaps can be recovered in 2 weeks or less.
In terms of the manufacturing material costs, I am certain Andersen Flaps has tried to lower the cost by any means available.
Would it be better if we charged a higher price and penalized an owner/operator's small purchase and gave the big guys a break?
greg334
Veteran Expediter
The problem isn't with you, it is me tonight. I am throwing out things to see what others are thinking and get them to speak up but it is not working.
I have been to your site and haven't had a chance to compare the prices.
My concern is that if I get a pair, how will they work with things behind the wheels, like my generator box and the other equipment. The advantage I could have with fuel mileage may not happen with something behind the wheels, and my worry is if I get too much water say in my power dolly system or the generator box, the cost savings won't matter.
By the way thanks for coming here.
I have been to your site and haven't had a chance to compare the prices.
My concern is that if I get a pair, how will they work with things behind the wheels, like my generator box and the other equipment. The advantage I could have with fuel mileage may not happen with something behind the wheels, and my worry is if I get too much water say in my power dolly system or the generator box, the cost savings won't matter.
By the way thanks for coming here.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Thanks
I am trying to get everything continuous on the bottom, like one long flaring so to cut that wind flow on the bottom. Thought about using some flaring but my truck is small, so it would be nice looking.
I am trying to get everything continuous on the bottom, like one long flaring so to cut that wind flow on the bottom. Thought about using some flaring but my truck is small, so it would be nice looking.
Our customers that have tried side fairings on the trailer have found that they negate the gains made by Eco-flaps but they don't provide as much gains and the price difference between these fairings and Eco-flaps is HUGE. It appears that it is best to let the air pass through and under the trailer without creating the additional turbulence that the side fairings might be creating. You may check around and see if anyone makes a "bubble shaped" cover for your underhangings. I have heard that the large ones for the top side of the front of trailers do help deflect air.
JonasJ, thank u for flap on the flaps. Can we order the eco flaps online, or do we just call in an order via phone?
Referring to underside air flow, has anyone tried putting a row a airtabs along the bottum edge of your front bumper on a ST truck? I love my airtabs around the back of the box and perform as advertised. In theory it seems like it might work to improve MPG as they push the air down and away from the turbulent underbely of the vehicle. Cooling would not be a problem on my M2 and may help as the air is sucked down thru the radiator. I could see where this may be a problem if an airdam is present. My M2 has a nice flat edge along the bumper's bottum edge that would accept airtabs nicely. What da ya think??
I'm getting into this MPG stuff, took my windsheild visor off last week. Keep the ideas coming. Hummm, what next?
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Referring to underside air flow, has anyone tried putting a row a airtabs along the bottum edge of your front bumper on a ST truck? I love my airtabs around the back of the box and perform as advertised. In theory it seems like it might work to improve MPG as they push the air down and away from the turbulent underbely of the vehicle. Cooling would not be a problem on my M2 and may help as the air is sucked down thru the radiator. I could see where this may be a problem if an airdam is present. My M2 has a nice flat edge along the bumper's bottum edge that would accept airtabs nicely. What da ya think??
I'm getting into this MPG stuff, took my windsheild visor off last week. Keep the ideas coming. Hummm, what next?
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Gregg, thank u for the quick reply. I agree the underside is an aerodynamic nitemare, but that's why i'm thinking it might help as the tabs "sling" the air down and away from the mess. Would be interesting to know if anyone has tried it. Curiosity usually gets the best of me. Another Q i have is Allison trans cooling, how much does the trans rely on air flow for cooling? I'm going to pull up the airtab site and ask 'em and will post any reply, surely i'm not the first to consider the idea.
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greg334
Veteran Expediter
The effectiveness of the airtabs seems to be related to a distance between objects. I mean that the 8 to 12 inches from the bumper bottom to the cement may negate any airflow changes because of the turbulence from the air trying to escape, make sense? Unlike the airtabs being mounted on the sides and roof of the truck, the air needs to go somewhere and down is not working for the air. Tie this with the fact that there are tires in contact with the cement further agrivates the problem.
truckn-lace
Seasoned Expediter
Hi I will go green every chance I get. Will check it out! Thanks for the info. Good day to you Happy Trails!
But they are not green, they are black. LOL 
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P51bombay
Expert Expediter
But they are not green, they are black. LOL
Park in a rain forest a while - they will be
Yes, the mold and mildew would turn them green for sure. Layoutshooter