Doing the Dishes

asjssl

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Please notice the picture of the cat disrespecting on the dog in order to get a drink of water from the fridge.

You ask for peoples opinion on a topic...then when it does not agree with you ...you mock them..
maybe you don't want to raise your children to respect other living things but I do...and did.
 

layoutshooter

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You ask for peoples opinion on a topic...then when it does not agree with you ...you mock them..
maybe you don't want to raise your children to respect other living things but I do...and did.

What you are talking about is moral choice. Just as with all moral choices, it is a personal matter and, as we are so often told, no one has a right to force their moral views on others, nor should they mock them.
 

Ragman

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Wadda you expect? You know how cats are!
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Turtle

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You ask for peoples opinion on a topic...then when it does not agree with you ...you mock them..
maybe you don't want to raise your children to respect other living things but I do...and did.
Actually, I asked for opinions on what the pictures depicted. You first filtered your opinion through the sieve of politics. The only thing I'm mocking is the laugh out loud hypocrisy of how people's (liberals) opinions depend on who the mother is. Across the World Wide Internet, the only responses that lay blame on the mother come from liberals who know who the mother is. Liberals who don't know who the mother is oddly enough think there is nothing wrong in the pictures. That's what's so funny. And if the politics were reversed, you'd say the same thing.

A kid sitting on dad's shoulders so he can better see the parade passing by is no more disrespecting dad than is the dog letting the kid stand on it to better reach something, or the dog helping the cat get a drink. That's not even a moral call, it's family helping each other out.
 

Ragman

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Actually, I asked for opinions on what the pictures depicted. You first filtered your opinion through the sieve of politics. The only thing I'm mocking is the laugh out loud hypocrisy of how people's (liberals) opinions depend on who the mother is. Across the World Wide Internet, the only responses that lay blame on the mother come from liberals who know who the mother is. Liberals who don't know who the mother is oddly enough think there is nothing wrong in the pictures. That's what's so funny. And if the politics were reversed, you'd say the same thing.

A kid sitting on dad's shoulders so he can better see the parade passing by is no more disrespecting dad than is the dog letting the kid stand on it to better reach something, or the dog helping the cat get a drink. That's not even a moral call, it's family helping each other out.
To lay blame, indicates that there is something wrong. There is nothing wrong in the picture, just a child and a dog being a child and a dog.
 

asjssl

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Actually, I asked for opinions on what the pictures depicted. You first filtered your opinion through the sieve of politics. The only thing I'm mocking is the laugh out loud hypocrisy of how people's (liberals) opinions depend on who the mother is. Across the World Wide Internet, the only responses that lay blame on the mother come from liberals who know who the mother is. Liberals who don't know who the mother is oddly enough think there is nothing wrong in the pictures. That's what's so funny. And if the politics were reversed, you'd say the same thing.

A kid sitting on dad's shoulders so he can better see the parade passing by is no more disrespecting dad than is the dog letting the kid stand on it to better reach something, or the dog helping the cat get a drink. That's not even a moral call, it's family helping each other out.

I already knew the picture..you have a tainted jury pool...my decisions on the picture..we're never decided on the owner of the picture....and YES there is a huge difference between a child on there dad's shoulders...and using another living thing as a stepping stool...see that's my opinion...
 

Turtle

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I already knew the picture..you have a tainted jury pool...my decisions on the picture..we're never decided on the owner of the picture....
Yet your opinion zeroed in on the mother, which couldn't have happened if you didn't know about the mother.

and YES there is a huge difference between a child on there dad's shoulders...and using another living thing as a stepping stool...see that's my opinion...
You say that's your opinion, yet you fail to explain why it's such a huge difference, or even a minor difference. Both dog and dad are other living things. Both are smart enough to know when they're being abused.

What's your opinion on the dog lending his back to the cat?
 

asjssl

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Yet your opinion zeroed in on the mother, which couldn't have happened if you didn't know about the mother.


You say that's your opinion, yet you fail to explain why it's such a huge difference, or even a minor difference. Both dog and dad are other living things. Both are smart enough to know when they're being abused.

What's your opinion on the dog lending his back to the cat?

Of course I knew who the mother was..the picture is all over the place.

I guess your missing my whole point....they are not being abused...
its just in my house we do not use the animals as stools..to me its disrespecting the animal...SORRY.. to you maybe not..to me yes..I would never happen in my house...get a stool..that's what there are for....
If you want to let your kids stand on the dogs as step ladders...have at it..you asked for what I seen in the photo...I replied with disrespect.
There is no right or wrong answer here..its how you look at it..
 

Turtle

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You didn't reply with disrespect, you replied with what "she" should be teaching her children.

Once I pointed out the hypocrisy, that's when you started hanging tuff on the disrespect angle. But like I said before you even posted in this thread, the only ones who focus on the mother not properly teaching her kids about respect are the liberals who know who the mother is. Liberals who don't know who the mother is don't see any issues with respect or disrespect.

How ya coming on formulating your opinion of the cat standing on the dog?

And, how is kid on dad's shoulders a HUGE difference from kid on dog, and from cat on dog?
 

asjssl

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You didn't reply with disrespect, you replied with what "she" should be teaching her children.

Once I pointed out the hypocrisy, that's when you started hanging tuff on the disrespect angle. But like I said before you even posted in this thread, the only ones who focus on the mother not properly teaching her kids about respect are the liberals who know who the mother is. Liberals who don't know who the mother is don't see any issues with respect or disrespect.

How ya coming on formulating your opinion of the cat standing on the dog?

And, how is kid on dad's shoulders a HUGE difference from kid on dog, and from cat on dog?

Here is a copy and paste from my first response and I said..

"He is obviously not hurting the dog. ..but she should be teaching the child to respect other living animals by not using them as a step ladder..."

I knew of the picture... sorry.. but find ONE instance in any reply that refers to ANYTHING political..the ONLY thing YOU will find...is the word SHE..
YOU are the one using all the political words and making this into something ...
ALL I AM SAYING IS................ DONT STAND ON THE FUC$ING DOG ..PERIOD
 

aristotle

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Once upon a time, in the early 1980's, I had to shoot and kill a feral dog that was terrorizing children and adults in our rural village. After that shooting, I gave up hunting and fishing for a very long time. Obviously, this dog had never been allowed to develop socialization with humans. Packs of wild dogs are not uncommon in rural areas. The pack mentality, depending on circumstances, is not always a positive.
 

layoutshooter

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Once upon a time, in the early 1980's, I had to shoot and kill a feral dog that was terrorizing children and adults in our rural village. After that shooting, I gave up hunting and fishing for a very long time. Obviously, this dog had never been allowed to develop socialization with humans. Packs of wild dogs are not uncommon in rural areas. The pack mentality, depending on circumstances, is not always a positive.

I don't understand. Why would killing a dangerous animal affect you wanting to hunt or fish? :confused: I am not trying to be a smart butt, I don't understand. It was the right thing to do.
 

layoutshooter

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Shooting a dog was traumatic for me. Still bothers me, 30 years later.

I have shot several feral dogs, I had no problem with it. Same with feral cats. Neither have any business out in the field and cause a lot of damage. They are not only a threat to human life, they do a lot of damage to wildlife.

Shooting a pet would be harder, doing the right thing has never bothered me. I also, and it's my personal feeling, see no difference between killing one animal or another. I cannot see how killing a dog is any different from killing a duck, deer, cow or horse. I would have no problem with someone who wants to eat a cat, or a dog, I don't see any difference.
 

ntimevan

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I wish I could train my house Dog to do the dishes...1 i hate doing dishes...2 he is only 7 inches tall....lol
 

Turtle

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Here is a copy and paste from my first response and I said..

"He is obviously not hurting the dog. ..but she should be teaching the child to respect other living animals by not using them as a step ladder..."
Yes, thanks. I read it the first time. But thanks for reposting it.

I knew of the picture... sorry.. but find ONE instance in any reply that refers to ANYTHING political..the ONLY thing YOU will find...is the word SHE..
First of all, I never said anything you said referred to anything political, because you made no political statements. What I said was, your response was filtered through the sieve of politics. Meaning, if you didn't know who the mother was, or even if there was a mother involved at all (as no mother or parent of any kind is depicted in the pictures), you wouldn't have made the focus of your reply about what "she should be teaching."

YOU are the one using all the political words and making this into something ...
I'm not making it into anything. It is what is it. Like I said in Post #19, I find it interesting to see comments filtered and unfiltered by a political agenda. Those who don't filter the pictures through a political agenda have had one set of responses, and those who have filtered them have had a completely different set of responses. There is one instance on another forum where someone posted that they saw nothing wrong with the pictures and that it was just a kid and his dog doing what a kid and his dog do, then a few hours later the same person came back and said, "I just found out who the kid is and who the other is, and I find it unconscionable that the mother would allow this child to behave like this." It's laugh.out.loud. funny.

ALL I AM SAYING IS................ DONT STAND ON THE FUC$ING DOG ..PERIOD
Prolly shoulda said that, then, instead of saying what they mother should be teaching. :D
 

cheri1122

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The only thing politics has to do with my response is that I know who Sarah Palin is, but my response would have been the same if you'd posted the photo from Ellen's show [or any of those photos]: parents should teach their offspring to respect the animals they encounter, period. And yes, it is about "what could happen", because that's the basis of most of what we teach small children. They don't understand the moral abstract, yet.
I mentioned subservient because that's the dog's place in the family 'pack', and everyone, including the dog, knows it. That doesn't make it ok to stand on them, or pull their tail & ears, or kick them. Teaching them that fact regarding a dominant family member generally isn't necessary, as they will pretty quickly be set straight if they try it with an older sibling. Exceptions occur, but that doesn't alter the need to teach them what they should know. Dad allowing a child to sit on his shoulders is Dad's choice, one hopes.
The cat can sit wherever it pleases - not a parent's job to teach them anything. And it would be a thankless job if they tried, I hear. ;)
 
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