Detroit is Bankrupt

layoutshooter

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Just saying that is the "white flight" that libs keep whining about. Well... taking one's anger into the street, with burning and pillaging as a result, I'd flee too.

Back then, there wasn't really a place for blacks to flee to, in metro Detroit, other than Inkster.

Ecorse, River Rouge, Lincoln Park and lastly into Wyandotte, Southgate and Riverview.

Funny, it came full circle. When I went to Riverview High we had no black people living there. Yet, when the school was first built 7 of the 9 in the first graduating class were black. Those families left to move to Detroit.

As to the riots, it was planned by "community organizers".

ANYONE with a brain left Detroit decades ago.
 

Tennesseahawk

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Ecorse, River Rouge, Lincoln Park and lastly into Wyandotte, Southgate and Riverview.

Funny, it came full circle. When I went to Riverview High we had no black people living there. Yet, when the school was first built 7 of the 9 in the first graduating class were black. Those families left to move to Detroit.

As to the riots, it was planned by "community organizers".

ANYONE with a brain left Detroit decades ago.

Rouge maybe. I don't think they let blacks into the other cities... certainly not LP, where I grew up. The farther downriver, the less likely they were able to buy a house.

Did not know that about Riverview. Woman and I lived there for a couple years when we first met.
 

skyraider

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Detroit is where many folks call home. That is why they stay. Do not give them any reason to leave there. If they leave and move to a nice city or small town somewhere else in the country, they will muck that up to, imho.
 

layoutshooter

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Detroit is where many folks call home. That is why they stay. Do not give them any reason to leave there. If they leave and move to a nice city or small town somewhere else in the country, they will muck that up to, imho.

Send them to NYC, LA, Chicago or some other cesspool. We don't need them here.
 

davekc

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One thing for sure so far, that every city that has filed, including Detroit, or is on the verge is being run by a mayor that is a democrat. Wonder why that is? :rolleyes:
 

Moot

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Not really. Remember, this has been a freight train in a dark tunnel for Detroit for many, many years. Long before Obunner.
Think LBJ.

Ooops! I should have read the whole thread before replying. I see Thawk nailed it.
 
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T270_Dreamin

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They should fire a few of those jerks at the port huron crossing and get some federal and state dollars coming in to rebuild the city of Detroit. They should just bomb it and start over... Detroit is like no other American City... you can have a house for a dollar there if you're willing to risk life. It makes me sick to see the cost of real estate across the US after I leave Detroit.

Every other city can stand on it own for the most part but Detroit needs help they need the federal government to step in like yesterday.
 
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xiggi

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Why should federal money be used to help Detroit? That's a state problem and someone in say Texas should not be paying for it.

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OntarioVanMan

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Besides it already gets federal money all those custom guards Homeland security on the federal payroll...
 

layoutshooter

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Besides it already gets federal money all those custom guards Homeland security on the federal payroll...

The customs guards have nothing to do with Detroit. Detroit, however, is already receiving other federal dollars, which is sent to insure that Detroit remains the mess that it is.
 

pearlpro

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I get tired of all the finger pointing, democrat, republican ethipoian, whodunnit when BS....Detroit has simply got what all the rest of OUR citys has, Industrial flight for cheap labor....how many factorys you guys go to everyday and see the MACHINES replacing jobs, Robots and modernization always cuts jobs, factorys may hire some guys to stand by the machine and make sure it runs smoothly, most dont do anything except insert and remove stock and parts...cheap labor, right back to the 1920s priced labor,

and Right to work for less has made the North the bad guys with the Unions and seen many plants move south, for good or bad, thousands have moved away from Detroit too, cant blame people when you drive thru there and see the factorys abandoned, plants crumbling, towns and neighborhoods stripped and burnt....

Crime, Gangs, and Violence, drug use, high drop out rates, face it the citys a mess, and somebody needs to stand up and say to the people of that city if your gonna tear down your own, how can we respect you....black, white, yellow, red, immigrant, whatever you have to have some pride and respect and that doesnt mean being in a gang and dealing drugs to eat, Too many takers and not enough workers...but taking workers pensions is wrong, they only have one life to earn that money.

No body had it as bad as the Greatest Generation, How can people act today like times are hard, those folks fought all around the world for freedom, lived thru the great depression and starved, lived thru strikes and strife, hard labor and bad conditions, yet they built that city....

People are the losers, always will be....somewhere in a small room somebodys counting the gazillions of dollars they made while the city crumbles...
 

xiggi

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Not sure what exactly cheap labor would be. My ex makes over 17 an hour at Honda with great benifits. Not all that bad for a hs diploma.

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T270_Dreamin

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Why should federal money be used to help Detroit? That's a state problem and someone in say Texas should not be paying for it.

Sent from my Fisher Price ABC-123.

Because the state of Michigan is neglecting it's largest city. And Detroit is a exception no other city in the US needs help like Detroit. Just go there and take a tour, read the crime statistics. Detroit has surpassed New Orleans which is not near as bad. In New Orleans where I have family the rich still mix with the poor in intercity neighborhoods. You don't have that in Detroit from what I've seen. I've been to every major city in this country (I'm sure everyone else on here has also) minus Minneapolis and I've never seen anything like Detroit! Although I have not been to Caracas Venezuela.
 
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layoutshooter

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Because the state of Michigan is neglecting it's largest city. And Detroit is a exception no other city in the US needs help like Detroit. Just go there and take a tour, read the crime statistics. Detroit has surpassed New Orleans which is not near as bad. In New Orleans where I have family the rich still mix with the poor in intercity neighborhoods. You don't have that in Detroit from what I've seen. I've been to every major city in this country (I'm sure everyone else on here has also) minus Minneapolis and I've never seen anything like Detroit!

I was born in Detroit and raised in the area. The problems Detroit has is 100% of it's own making. A bailout would do no good. It would just enable those who caused the problems to continue along the same path that got them where they are now.

They should be made to be responsible for their own actions. The old saying, "For things to change you have to change", very much applies to Detroit and it's problems. Until the residents there get fed up with "business as usual" , it will continue.

It was the "hand out" attitude that got them here, more handouts will not fix it.

I live in Michigan. I take responsibility for the county and township in which I reside. I pay my taxes here. I own nothing to Detroit and Detroit is not entitled to my tax dollars. The people of Detroit need to get off their lazy butts and fix it.
 

T270_Dreamin

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Unregulated handouts don't work. They have to step in further when they choose to help, you can't just write a check. Just like a father can't continue to send money to a immature son, he will go out and spend it and keep asking for more not learning or understanding the definition of work.


I don't like the lack of appreciation for Human existence in Detroit, there is a war going on inside Detroit that outsiders don't know about!

If you're unarmed Detroit is a off limits city in many places at night... I'd choose Detroit as a place to live if I could but that is not a option. I want to live in a place where you can walk around at night.
 
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layoutshooter

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I don't like the lack of appreciation for Human existence in Detroit, there is a war going on inside Detroit that outsiders don't know about!

If you're unarmed Detroit is a off limits city in many places at night... I'd choose Detroit as a place to live if I could but that is not a option. I want to live in a place where you can walk around at night.

The residents in Detroit like what they have or they would change it. The war in Detroit is of the residents making. The economic problems are of the residents own choice. They voted for those who run it. They have been voting that way for DECADES. Each election they vote in the same exact type of people and expect a different outcome. They want, want, want and don't want to cover the costs. Then, they expect other's to cover it for them. 18 BILLION is NO accident. It is criminal behavior endorsed by the people who live there.

It is not a lack of appreciation, it is the appreciation of why it is and who caused it.

Detroit has been a boil on this State's butt for far too long. They have fouled their own next, by choice, they can clean it up. If I could I would make Detroit it's own state, then we would no longer have to put up with their BS. Michigan's crime rate would drop by 80% if Detroit was gone.
 

davekc

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I think we just have to accept there are places like Detroit. Chicago is the next one up. Literally billions poured in to give "free stuff". And for what? Nothing has changed. City is more broke every year, ran by democrats giving all the usual give aways, and crime just keeps climbing there.
I think we are at the point of just letting these places go.
 

layoutshooter

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They have to hit bottom before they will begin to recover. They also have to admit that they are the problem and only they can fix it.

Then it's OUT with the old and IN with the new!
 

T270_Dreamin

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I think we just have to accept there are places like Detroit. Chicago is the next one up. Literally billions poured in to give "free stuff". And for what? Nothing has changed. City is more broke every year, ran by democrats giving all the usual give aways, and crime just keeps climbing there.
I think we are at the point of just letting these places go.

Chicago crime is predominately confined to the south side in Detroit you can pretty much say it's inside the entire city limits. Locals in the burbs don't even go there at night unarmed. Chicago statistics are up but you're not going to see a lot of crime on the north side and certain areas. Chicago population at 2.6 Mil - Detroit at 700,000
 
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