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AMonger

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Attacks..its the truth..your obsessed with gay men.. and the attacks are what you're looking for or you wouldn't post what you do. You stir the pot..
No, what I'm looking for is to slow and eventually reverse the cultural, moral, and eventual total destruction of our society through acceptance of vile sin and God's judgment that comes with it. And I don't post to sir the pot; I post when a law is passed or debated, when a relevant news story is published, etc.
 

cheri1122

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Re: Democrats, psychiatrists argue that same-sex sodomy, pedophilia are similar, shou

I will say that I do not believe Amonger is in fact a closeted homosexual as others have suggested. It does seem however that you are obsessed with the male on male sex act. You never mention how two men may simply have an emotional attachment to each other. You go straight for the sex act. This is not healthy IMHO.

According to his beliefs, an emotional attachment [or physical attraction] is not a sin, unless it's acted upon, because it's only the sex that's wrong.
I asked if a guy engages in homosexuality while in prison, but never outside of it
, is he a homosexual still? Or a part timer, or what? And what about the guys who just do it when they're so drunk they don't really realize what they're doing - does that count? How about the ones who do it for money, but never otherwise - are they homosexuals too?
He never answered, so we still don't know.
 

AMonger

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Re: Democrats, psychiatrists argue that same-sex sodomy, pedophilia are similar, shou

I would qualify that as personal opinion...you say one is sinful and revolting, the other just sinful? So God likes to watch one but not the other?
No, God detests both. It's I that say only male sodomy is revolting, an opinion shared by most people, I'll bet.
 

AMonger

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Re: Democrats, psychiatrists argue that same-sex sodomy, pedophilia are similar, shou

I will say that I do not believe Amonger is in fact a closeted homosexual as others have suggested. It does seem however that you are obsessed with the male on male sex act. You never mention how two men may simply have an emotional attachment to each other. You go straight for the sex act.
No, actually I have addressed it. The Bible tells of David and Jonathon, who loved each other, but who weren't homosexuals. It's the sex act between them that would have been wrong, not an emotion.
 

cheri1122

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No, God detests both.

That is not a fact, it's a belief. You're entitled to believe what you like, but you're not entitled to require anyone else to agree, or to act accordingly.

It's I that say only male sodomy is revolting, an opinion shared by most people, I'll bet.

Most people tend to avoid subjects and thoughts they consider revolting, so it's a leeetle bit hard to believe that you find the subject revolting.
No, I take that back - it's not even remotely possible to believe it.
 

letzrockexpress

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Most people tend to avoid subjects and thoughts they consider revolting, so it's a leeetle bit hard to believe that you find the subject revolting.
No, I take that back - it's not even remotely possible to believe it.

Yeah I have to agree. I suppose it could come up once or twice in the normal course of discussion but it's at least weekly with this guy.
 

AMonger

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Yeah I have to agree. I suppose it could come up once or twice in the normal course of discussion but it's at least weekly with this guy.
And every time I bring it up, it's because of legislation being considered or passed, something in the news or current events, or when the subject otherwise comes up.
 

AMonger

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Most people tend to avoid subjects and thoughts they consider revolting, so it's a leeetle bit hard to believe that you find the subject revolting.
No, I take that back - it's not even remotely possible to believe it.
Most people avoid house fires, except for firemen, who make it a point to rush there. And when they're not at a fire, they're frequently training for the next fire or discussing the last one.

Most people avoid touching things that are revolting, like guts and pus and similar things, except for these people we call doctors and nurses, who consider it their profession and/or calling, and who not only do so regularly, they actually incurred a lot of debt to go to school to do it.

I'm making a stand against social decay. That -- opposing sin -- is part and parcel of loving God. They are inseparable. If you don't hate sin -- and same-sex sodomy is a sin -- you don't love God.
 

AMonger

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According to his beliefs, an emotional attachment [or physical attraction] is not a sin, unless it's acted upon, because it's only the sex that's wrong.
I asked if a guy engages in homosexuality while in prison, but never outside of it
, is he a homosexual still? Or a part timer, or what? And what about the guys who just do it when they're so drunk they don't really realize what they're doing - does that count? How about the ones who do it for money, but never otherwise - are they homosexuals too?
He never answered, so we still don't know.
I believe I've addressed that in the past. The drunks realize what they're doing. All of those individuals you mentioned are homosexuals. I suppose a guy could repent and stop doing it and he'd no longer be one, but otherwise, all those examples involve homosexuals.
 

spongebox1

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Most people avoid house fires, except for firemen, who make it a point to rush there. And when they're not at a fire, they're frequently training for the next fire or discussing the last one.

Most people avoid touching things that are revolting, like guts and pus and similar things, except for these people we call doctors and nurses, who consider it their profession and/or calling, and who not only do so regularly, they actually incurred a lot of debt to go to school to do it.

I'm making a stand against social decay. That -- opposing sin -- is part and parcel of loving God. They are inseparable. If you don't hate sin -- and same-sex sodomy is a sin -- you don't love God.

Question : who is the person in your profile picture?

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spongebox1

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No, God detests both. It's I that say only male sodomy is revolting, an opinion shared by most people, I'll bet.

Personally I recommend not debating the bible with Pandora ( your going to lose ) and male on male contact in consensual setting does not bother most normal people ( I stress NORMAL ) what and who made you the authority on what a persons sexual orientation should be? Why are you so dead set on yelling out that its a sin and blaah blaah blaah? I do hope that you let this obvious hate you have go someday.

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spongebox1

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I believe I've addressed that in the past. The drunks realize what they're doing. All of those individuals you mentioned are homosexuals. I suppose a guy could repent and stop doing it and he'd no longer be one, but otherwise, all those examples involve homosexuals.

Does repeating by your books definition obsolve one of the sins they committed??

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AMonger

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Does repeating by your books definition obsolve one of the sins they committed??

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AMonger

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Personally I recommend not debating the bible with Pandora ( your going to lose )
I have done so many times and I have been more than equal to the task. Another debate you and I can have is on spelling, punctuation, and grammar. We should have that one sooner rather than later.
and male on male contact in consensual setting does not bother most normal people ( I stress NORMAL )
Quite the opposite, most find it revolting, though the numbers have been changing the last few decades. More people seem to be fine with it now than before, which is not a good thing.
what and who made you the authority on what a persons sexual orientation should be?
There's no such thing as sexual orientation.
Why are you so dead set on yelling out that its a sin and blaah blaah blaah? I do hope that you let this obvious hate you have go someday.
What I hate is sin and perversion. If you saw society shifting and accepting pedophilia, wouldn't you speak against it every time it came up? How about necrophilia? What if there were several TV shows on portraying such perverts as normal and society began to accept them as such? Would you oppose that or would you be consistent and embrace change?
I don't know what your religious beliefs are; it doesn't matter for Pandora. I'll repeat it for you in case it matters to you: If you don't hate sin, you don't love God.
 

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Re: Democrats, psychiatrists argue that same-sex sodomy, pedophilia are similar, shou

I have done so many times and I have been more than equal to the task. Another debate you and I can have is on spelling, punctuation, and grammar. We should have that one sooner rather than later.
Quite the opposite, most find it revolting, though the numbers have been changing the last few decades. More people seem to be fine with it now than before, which is not a good thing.
There's no such thing as sexual orientation.
What I hate is sin and perversion. If you saw society shifting and accepting pedophilia, wouldn't you speak against it every time it came up? How about necrophilia? What if there were several TV shows on portraying such perverts as normal and society began to accept them as such? Would you oppose that or would you be consistent and embrace change?
I don't know what your religious beliefs are; it doesn't matter for Pandora. I'll repeat it for you in case it matters to you: If you don't hate sin, you don't love God.

I'm just so glad your so dam perfect ..." I hate sin and perversion".. please
Guarantee with every f#$£ing dollar I have YOU are the one up to whatever you keep flappin your gums about..why else would you put this much effort into HATING a group of people..because you are 1 of them( probably don't even know it) ..your little book says its wrong and you can't deal with it...GUARANTEED!!
Ask any psychologist..
embrace it...let your freak flag fly....
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AMonger

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I'm just so glad your so dam perfect ..." I hate sin and perversion".. please
Here's the thing...people frequently say that about Christians: "You think you're perfect!" or some such, when the opposite is true. One can't be a Christian without realizing their own depravity. Unfortunately, there's a total dichotomy in this area, as St. Paul famously discusses in Romans chapters 6 & 7, in that we, as human sinners, still love our own sin even though we hate it at the same time. However, we can also see the overall societal effect of sin and how it, and some sins more than others, invite God's judgment on us. I can't speak for you, but I'd like to avoid that.
Guarantee with every f#$£ing dollar I have YOU are the one up to whatever you keep flappin your gums about..why else would you put this much effort into HATING a group of people..because you are 1 of them( probably don't even know it)
I'm pretty sure I'd know if I had committed homosexual perversion. I don't think anybody sleepwalks so soundly that they can get sodomized without knowing it.
..your little book says its wrong and you can't deal with it...GUARANTEED!!
The things I can't deal with in regards to what my "little book" says I can't do involve Jennifer Aniston's @$$, not some guy's filthy, hairy, sweaty crack.
 
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pandora2112

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So what exactly is fact in the bible? The earth created in seven days, the whole forming Adam with clay and Eve from his rib, the talking snake, the eating from a tree of knowledge, slaying giants or immaculate conception?
I suggest you look up the definition of the word FACT Amonger...facts are verifiable, proven and not subject to whimsy. You're talking about your faith and wish to legislate with your faith.
I'm sorry my gods, who are older than your god make me happy and not subject to the temptations of your devil. What makes your god, who is the new kid on the block trump my gods...it's not facts. Sorry to burst your bubble, but considering nature is a big part of my religion and I can prove it exists technically my religion is more fact based than yours! Only I'm not arrogant enough to try and convert every person on a different path than mine nor legislate with my religion.


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pandora2112

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Oh and I can vouch for spongebox...he doesn't love your god. He's kind of into goddess worship mostly me but that's okay!

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AMonger

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So what exactly is fact in the bible? The earth created in seven days, the whole forming Adam with clay and Eve from his rib, the talking snake, the eating from a tree of knowledge, slaying giants or immaculate conception?
Everything in the Bible that's meant to be literally true is literally true. However, the Bible, in addition to being scripture, is also literature, and as such, makes use of literary devices such as allegory, metaphor, hyperbole, etc. Determining which is literal and which is metaphor is, indeed, at issue.

I used to think that the Genesis creation accounts were literal, but I'm not sure now because Genesis uses language known to sometimes be used metaphorically. But if it's meant to be a literal account, then it is.
I suggest you look up the definition of the word FACT Amonger...facts are verifiable, proven and not subject to whimsy.
That's incorrect. There was a time when it was thought that the sun and all the celestial bodies revolved around the Earth. That thought was wrong. That the Earth revolves around the sun was a fact, even though man wasn't yet aware of it. That's why we use adjectives like demonstrable or provable when applicable to distinguish what is merely true from what can be proven true in, say, a court of law.
You're talking about your faith and wish to legislate with your faith.
Again, not true. Perhaps had you been following similar threads for the last couple years, you'd be better informed. I am on record here, repeatedly, saying that I am against using the force of law to find out what people are doing with their genitals, as long as it doesn't involve assault. I'm also on record here saying that sodomites have as much right to peaceably walk down the street as a normal person. I'm also on record here as supporting precisely equal marriage rights for sodomites: they, being unmarried adults have the same right as anyone else to enter into a marriage contract with another unmarried adult of the opposite sex as a normal person.

I'm in favor of privacy rights in general, and I don't think sodomites realize how many of their perceived problems would evaporate if they kept their private lives, private.
I'm sorry my gods, who are older than your god make me happy and not subject to the temptations of your devil. What makes your god, who is the new kid on the block trump my gods...it's not facts.
Are you so fond of errors in statement of fact that all your previous errors don't satisfy you? You have to keep going and you saved the biggest whoppers for last.

Nothing and nobody existed before God created everything you know. You're just to prideful to admit it. If you don't believe it, wait until His Son is your judge.
 
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