Do you mean get on their knees?Barring some yet unknown outcome-altering event, they will all bend the knee eventually ...
Death by DeSantis
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I find the ad to be repulsive, not the LP. Though the ad served as a straw that broke the camel's back and I now look on the Lincoln Project with disdain.
Blasphemy is blasphemy. The blasphemous act of one does not free another to do the same.
The Lincoln Project ad provided it's own context. It was repulsive, offensive, groundless, blasphemous and counterproductive on its face. Again, the faulty actions one does not free another to be similarly faulty.
You spelled acquitted and exonerated wrong.
DeSantis Campaign; the Worst Republican Campaign in History
Excerpts from this opinion piece:
At the beginning of 2023, Gov. Ron DeSantis was in first place, ahead of former President Donald Trump.
The DeSantis campaign and super PAC raised more money than any other campaign, including that of the former president.
What passed as their strategy, if we can call it that, was modeled after a weathervane.
The DeSantis campaign should have defined their candidate as Trump-plus, ... Instead, they offered the voters Trump-minus.
Polling showed DeSantis had a tremendous opportunity. No candidate had a better setup. But then, something bad happened: The campaign introduced the product.
In person, he was a diminutive politician.
The decision by the DeSantis team to have him travel to early states campaigning for president while pretending to not be a candidate was disastrous, giving Trump a chance to savage the governor while DeSantis ignored him, conveying weakness.
The message that “I’m just like Trump, but awkward, shorter and less interesting” did not seem to catch.
The campaign and super PAC spent millions on advertising that failed to move voters to their candidate.
The campaign, tried to sell two conflicting propositions: It argued that their guy was more electable than Trump, but also that he was just like Trump. There was no market for the Trump Who Wasn’t Trump but could not be himself.
Disney is perhaps the perfect example of big business gone dangerously “woke,” but even here DeSantis managed to overreach when he went after the company’s special tax status, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
The celebrity consultant known as Jeff Roe [who DeSantis hired] loses virtually every race he touches.
Many political reporters and donors treated DeSantis’ vaunted [door-knocking] “ground game” as if it were more than campaign hype. The only thing the DeSantis ground game built was second and third homes for the consultants who conned him out of millions.
Perhaps Trump’s vast lead could not be overcome and this was the wrong cycle for DeSantis to run. Perhaps, for someone so uncomfortable with people, this was the wrong decade — or century. Still, that’s no excuse for misspending over $130 million and running the Worst Presidential Campaign in History.
Excerpts from this opinion piece:
At the beginning of 2023, Gov. Ron DeSantis was in first place, ahead of former President Donald Trump.
The DeSantis campaign and super PAC raised more money than any other campaign, including that of the former president.
What passed as their strategy, if we can call it that, was modeled after a weathervane.
The DeSantis campaign should have defined their candidate as Trump-plus, ... Instead, they offered the voters Trump-minus.
Polling showed DeSantis had a tremendous opportunity. No candidate had a better setup. But then, something bad happened: The campaign introduced the product.
In person, he was a diminutive politician.
The decision by the DeSantis team to have him travel to early states campaigning for president while pretending to not be a candidate was disastrous, giving Trump a chance to savage the governor while DeSantis ignored him, conveying weakness.
The message that “I’m just like Trump, but awkward, shorter and less interesting” did not seem to catch.
The campaign and super PAC spent millions on advertising that failed to move voters to their candidate.
The campaign, tried to sell two conflicting propositions: It argued that their guy was more electable than Trump, but also that he was just like Trump. There was no market for the Trump Who Wasn’t Trump but could not be himself.
Disney is perhaps the perfect example of big business gone dangerously “woke,” but even here DeSantis managed to overreach when he went after the company’s special tax status, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
The celebrity consultant known as Jeff Roe [who DeSantis hired] loses virtually every race he touches.
Many political reporters and donors treated DeSantis’ vaunted [door-knocking] “ground game” as if it were more than campaign hype. The only thing the DeSantis ground game built was second and third homes for the consultants who conned him out of millions.
Perhaps Trump’s vast lead could not be overcome and this was the wrong cycle for DeSantis to run. Perhaps, for someone so uncomfortable with people, this was the wrong decade — or century. Still, that’s no excuse for misspending over $130 million and running the Worst Presidential Campaign in History.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Whatever.
I find the ad to be an entirely appropriate response to what The Orange Heretic and Blasphemer™ offered up.
LP will continue to bring the heat.
You misspelled "parody" ...
It was put out as such and I'd venture to guess was correctly understood to be so by most of those that viewed it.
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RLENT
Veteran Expediter
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
I had no need to use either of those words ... primarily since he hasn't been, in regards to the charges and venues I referenced .
We tried to tell him not to run this time. FWIW, Nikki Haley is equally, if not a worse candidate than DeSantis.
Did you also try to tell him to not be utterly incompetent and astoundingly arrogant as he built his campaign team and strategy? Did you also try to warn him that as he stepped out of his protected shell in FL and onto the national stage, he would be exposed as the self-serving, pretentious "leader" he truly is?
DeSantis Plunge Continues
DeSantis is mostly ignoring the New Hampshire primary, where polls put him in 3rd place with single-digit results. He has also fallen into single digits in South Carolina, where he is actively campaigning. Nationally, he just dropped into third place too.
The theme that began in January continues. The more DeSantis campaigns and interacts with voters, the less people like him.
DeSantis is mostly ignoring the New Hampshire primary, where polls put him in 3rd place with single-digit results. He has also fallen into single digits in South Carolina, where he is actively campaigning. Nationally, he just dropped into third place too.
The theme that began in January continues. The more DeSantis campaigns and interacts with voters, the less people like him.
DeSantis came in 2nd in Iowa. The media seem to ignore the fact that Haley came in 3rd. They love Haley the same way they loved John McCain, because as candidates they have a lot in common; mushy moderates that would be guaranteed losers in the general election. The only reason Haley is showing fairly well in NH is their screwed-up voting system that allows Democrats to switch parties at the voting stations and submit an anti-Trump vote. She's 30 points behind Trump in her home state of SC.
The glaring fact has emerged that Trump had the nomination locked from day one; no other candidate would have come any closer than DeSantis or Haley. DeSantis has been campaigning for the same voters as Trump, and they're not going to change, especially now. Joe Biden and the Democrat party have helped the Trump campaign immensely with their glaring incompetence, record of foreign and domestic policy failures, and candidates that middle class American people simply don't like. Combine that with the political persecution they've waged against Trump and the entire segment of our population they've denigrated as "MAGA extremists", and you get an us-versus-them dynamic that creates a huge solid block of voters that will stick with Trump even if he runs his campaign from jail. One look at the latest Real Clear Politics polls tells us the GOP race is already over and Trump is the runaway winner. All that remains to be seen is whether or not the Democrats will stick with the worst presidential ticket they've ever had.
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When DeSantis came in a distant 2nd, despite 9 months of all-out effort in Iowa, he became a dead man walking and the media treated him as such. Surging Haley became the new exciting candidate, and the media loves excitement.
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A Good Summary
Regarding the DeSantis downfall, this BBC analysis summarizes things nicely:
"There were problems with the candidate himself - a perceived lack of charisma and his awkwardness with voters - as well as with the campaign he ran. But the real reason for his downfall was simply the man he was up against, Donald Trump.
"He could not compete against a figure who enjoyed such unwavering support from his followers, said Matthew Bartlett, a New Hampshire-based Republican strategist.
"'He [Trump] has been their political identity, and maybe even personal identity, for the better part of a decade,' Mr Bartlett said.
"Looking back at the campaign, experts said it was an almost impossible election cycle for a relative newcomer to the national stage. Mr DeSantis was essentially running against an incumbent, with name recognition, limitless money and a committed base of voters." (Source)
I'll add that "the campaign he ran" was a bigger factor than the BBC states. Notwithstanding the money he raised, the DeSantis campaign strategy, leadership picks and operations were a dysfunctional disaster from the first day. As the dysfunctions emerged and compounded, DeSantis himself reinforced them and allowed them to continue. In other words, the DeSantis campaign manifested DeSantis himself. So encumbered, he squandered the lead, momentum, and largess he had in January, 2024, and was crushed by an opponent who is laden with more baggage than an airline.
Related, DeSantis proved that, as a campaign strategy, a war on woke won't work.
Regarding the DeSantis downfall, this BBC analysis summarizes things nicely:
"There were problems with the candidate himself - a perceived lack of charisma and his awkwardness with voters - as well as with the campaign he ran. But the real reason for his downfall was simply the man he was up against, Donald Trump.
"He could not compete against a figure who enjoyed such unwavering support from his followers, said Matthew Bartlett, a New Hampshire-based Republican strategist.
"'He [Trump] has been their political identity, and maybe even personal identity, for the better part of a decade,' Mr Bartlett said.
"Looking back at the campaign, experts said it was an almost impossible election cycle for a relative newcomer to the national stage. Mr DeSantis was essentially running against an incumbent, with name recognition, limitless money and a committed base of voters." (Source)
I'll add that "the campaign he ran" was a bigger factor than the BBC states. Notwithstanding the money he raised, the DeSantis campaign strategy, leadership picks and operations were a dysfunctional disaster from the first day. As the dysfunctions emerged and compounded, DeSantis himself reinforced them and allowed them to continue. In other words, the DeSantis campaign manifested DeSantis himself. So encumbered, he squandered the lead, momentum, and largess he had in January, 2024, and was crushed by an opponent who is laden with more baggage than an airline.
Related, DeSantis proved that, as a campaign strategy, a war on woke won't work.
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