Company (UN(safe)ty) departments

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Companies all have an UNsafety department. The UNsafety managers believe sending fleet messages via QC on a daily basis makes drivers better and safer operators. UNsafety managers need to realize these random beepings do just the opposite. What they do is awaken operators in the middle of their rest period after a long run the night before and prior to a long run that night.

What the UNsafety managers need to realize is whenever that things goes off the operator has to check it in case it's a load offer. At the very least they should make certain it's at the same unique time every day, something like 14:17 or 15:38 so ignoring it is less of a gamble of missing a load. Ideally they should be bundled and sent once a week on the weekend in the afternoon. That would disturb the least number of people and create the least potential for UNsafety.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Makes sense until you realize they have highschoolers running the dispatch. Then it becomes whats convenient for them.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
With the new units MCP200 there is no beep..just a voice and you can turn the volume off.....:D
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Leo: I made the same suggestion to Panther years ago, [tired of being awakened after an hour of sleep for a chirpy 'safety' msg, like: "Weekends are a great time to do preventive maintenance!" ] and clearly nothing changed - maybe if enough drivers chime in, they'll pay attention now.
The bundled idea is a good one, methinks.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Leo, I thought that company had an open door policy?

Or is it the one with the roving safety guy?

Well I would set up a meeting with the president or whom ever and state your concerns. They should act quickly.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
This complaint has been voiced countless times over the years, through channels, here in the Open Forum, in orientation classes, face to face to the higher-ups, and more. They hear what you are saying but don't care.
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
Yup it's a driver harassment,
and just one of the rezones why the court toasted the EOBR's mandate back into the drawing boards.
EOBR manufacturers are working to develop a unit that will comply with the court concerns, which...might...even allow drivers to stay asleep.
we can only wish.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Yup it's a driver harassment,
and just one of the rezones why the court toasted the EOBR's mandate back into the drawing boards.
EOBR manufacturers are working to develop a unit that will comply with the court concerns, which...might...even allow drivers to stay asleep.
we can only wish.

Moose it is there
to use EOBR the new units have a volume switch..it is NOT the units problem nor EOBR's...it is the carrier fault.....drivers should be able to elect to go on phone notification of a load opps.....It is a carrier issue... it is harassment by the carrier
 
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greg334

Veteran Expediter
moose;495147 EOBR manufacturers are working to develop a unit that will comply with the court concerns said:
You know the first thing that comes to mind is Leo drives a van so no EOBR but the second thing that comes to mind is turn the volume down and put some ear plugs in.

No matter how you look at it, if your company can not respect you and call you on the phone for a load, change companies.

As for EOBRs, what has to be changed?
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
You know the first thing that comes to mind is Leo drives a van so no EOBR but the second thing that comes to mind is turn the volume down and put some ear plugs in.

No matter how you look at it, if your company can not respect you and call you on the phone for a load, change companies.

As for EOBRs, what has to be changed?

Exactly....
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
One of the things we did not miss when we changed carriers was the way our previous carrier used the Qualcomm device. We now receive fewer beeps (or the voice announcement "A new message has arrived") in an entire month than we would receive in one long run with FedEx Custom Critical.

After making the change, we jokingly wondered, how can Landstar move any freight at all when its Qualcomm unit beeps so little? We serve the same customers, haul the same kind of freight (except TVAL and art loads) and drive the same truck, but the Qualcomm unit barely beeps. How can that be?

The peace and quiet is nice.

Ultra-low paying loads are not offered at all because the agents know they will be refused. If a directional need is expressed, an agent might look for something that will get you home or wherever it is you wish to go, but otherwise no one bothers to offer a load that pays a straight truck a shamefully low rate. Why would they? It makes little money for them and wastes time that can be spent on better loads.

Loads are offered to drivers by telephone with a human being on the other end. Questions can be immediately asked and answered because the person calling knows the customer and the shipment.

When a load is accepted, the Qualcomm beeps ONCE. That message includes everything you need to know to do the pick up and delivery. It usually includes contact names and numbers for the shipper and consignee so you can confirm times and work out truck parking and other stuff directly.

That's it; ONE beep per run (one additional beep on certain kinds of loads).

You send in a pick up event message when you are loaded. You send in a delivery event message when you deliver. Most agents like to be called when pick ups and deliveries are done but there is no departure call check list like at our former carrier. There are no hold times either. If the call goes to voice mail, you simply leave the message that the pick up or delivery is complete.

Certain loads that have security protocols attached require additional outbound Qualcomm messages that go to a monitoring agency. Those are identical to what was sent at our former carrier when on such loads.

Fleet messages are rare. The Qualcomm will beep some days with load announcements but those are different than load offers. There are no penalties for refusing a load. The Qualcomm almost never beeps for any reason after business hours.

Since almost all offers are made by telephone, we simply silence the Qualcomm unit when we want to take an uninterrupted nap in the daytime. We do so without fear of missing anything important.

It continues to amaze us that Landstar can run a business without beeping the Qualcomm as often as our former carrier did. But they do, and like I said, we enjoy the peace and quiet.

We also enjoy the trust that drives the quiet Qualcomm phenomenon. The reason our Qualcomm beeps so little, check-ins and check-outs are not required, and few phone calls are needed is that Landstar trusts its BCOs (contractors) to do the job and do it well. They don't feel the need to verify your activity every step of the way because Landstar BCOs are worthy of the trust that is placed in them.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Phil's post explains well why I've always referred to the QC as a babysitter, and resent the implication that we can't be trusted without being watched every minute.
It's the mentality that penalizes the many for the misdeeds of the [very] few that causes the staggering number of regulations we live with, and it's long been of control.
Load One is much like Landstar, in that load offers are conveyed by phone, and sent via QC only when accepted - a much better way to utilize the QC, IMO.

 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
It seems that Landstar can use technology in the way it should be used - as tools to help us do OUR job not telling us how to do it. The use of the Qualcomm to broadcast offers is very limited by only a few agents and I think that in many cases this is just part of their need to try to get the load covered in the broader sense. I think that outside of LEAM, the qualcomm isn't used so hence there is even more freight being moved without the "BEEP!"

That said, there is a stark difference in how much freight is moved and how the communications works effectively when there is a simple phone call.

FedEx's move to the system they have reflect the culture they are in. The idea that there should be a "competition" for the work removes the effectiveness of the one to one communications between the contractor and the company and in turn has a lot of people being forced to respond as fast as possible.
 

Dreamer

Administrator Emeritus
Charter Member
When on layover, we DO have the option of 'phone only'... so if the QC beeps, I just ignore it... plus I have the text notification activated.. if it's a run, and I forgot to switch to 'phone only', my phone will beep.

Otherwise, no biggy to me... I don't sweat the lil stuff.


Dale
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
There's also the beep while you are on a load and you have to pull over to see if it's an UNsafety message or something to do with the load. It just isn't the best system.
 

Dreamer

Administrator Emeritus
Charter Member
Hit the center button on the control panel (dot surrounded by 4 arrows) twice... once to highlight, once to read... it will read you the message.


Dale
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Leo: I made the same suggestion to Panther years ago, [tired of being awakened after an hour of sleep for a chirpy 'safety' msg, like: "Weekends are a great time to do preventive maintenance!" ] and clearly nothing changed - maybe if enough drivers chime in, they'll pay attention now.
Cheri, are you sure this happened when you were with Panther and not Con-Way Now? Most of my Panther QC messages come late in the afternoon. Con-Way Now got a new V.P. of safety in the last couple years of their existence. He was fond of sending out inane safety message shortly after 09:00. I guess he wanted to prove to people he was on the job bright and early, freeing up the rest of the day for lunch and golf.

He pushed me over the edge when he woke me up with a message touting the importance of proper sleep. I posted about it on these very pages and even suggested he outfit his golf cart with a QC unit so he could send his messages later in the day, like between the front and back nine. After that the messages came after 15:00 and with less frequency. Ah, the power of E.O.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Yes, I know it will speak although not always legibly. That isn't the point though as much as being a flawed system and the exact opposite of the "safety" they incorrectly claim.
 
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