Companies that fine drivers

[davekc]

In Charles example that is a different set of circumstances. If a load is late and the driver fails to notify the carrier for any reason, that should be on the driver. Absolutley no problem with that.
Clock violation and or missing a number on a pro bill is blatant stupidity and shouldn't be in the business of having drivers.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

re·ward/riˈwôrd/


Noun: A thing given in recognition of service, effort, or achievement.



Absolutely - it's a "reward" for my time and effort, and the service that I provide and render ....

Fine you call it a reward and I'll it a paycheck....the thing I get when I do the job I am supposed to do and be reimbursed for services rendered within the confines of my contract.....
If my carrier feels like I've earned a reward or bonus for good service they can add that to my paycheck...

Re-ward....verb...

The firefighters were given a reward for their brave actions.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

The real reward should go to Bolt just to try to drag you away from home....LOL..

 

[MCGohio1985]

I work for LRT thay where trying to fine me 35% for a BOL that I mailed 2 hours after I dropped because it toke 10 days to reach them I ask them to tell me the postmarked date she said they don't keep the envelope and she would not charge me this time

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[zorry]

How good can the freight pay to risk 35% ?

 

[RLENT]

The real reward should go to Bolt just to try to drag you away from home....LOL..

Heheheh .... they just called a little bit ago with a load ....

I was OOS .... but it was too good to turn down ....

 

[davekc]

I work for LRT thay where trying to fine me 35% for a BOL that I mailed 2 hours after I dropped because it toke 10 days to reach them I ask them to tell me the postmarked date she said they don't keep the envelope and she would not charge me this time

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They shouldn't have a system that is reliant upon a government agency. That is the carriers fault for not having a more reliable system in place. 35 percent is nothing more than a cash grab and game playing IMO.

 

[dletheridge]

That situation mostly occurs with companies with company drivers.

There are a number of companies out there that they say they will fine drivers for a number of "infractions". A slightly smaller portion of that number that actually do fine the drivers. Most of the rest of them only fine when there is trend by certain drivers.

The infractions could be for things like failing to turn in logs as required, failing to secure sign BOL and/or POD's, failing DOT inspections, not preparing BOL's, POD's or any other paperwork relating to billing correctly, failing to keep tractor clean, failing to report trailers that need repair, etc etc etc.

 

[davekc]

I am sure that is true. But in that case you are talking about employees rather than independent contractors. Big difference.

 

[guido4475]

I used to work for a carrier that had a $200.00 annual administration fee...When I asked about it, where it goes, what is it for, I never did receive an answer...That was the sticker peeling deal breaker..

Bottom line is this-too many carriers out there try to make their money off of the driver instead of the load, generating high turnover rates, costing them more money.They'll never learn.

 

[guido4475]

Shouldn't have this kind of garbage in any lease.

And a lot won't.Eventually you may get an amendment to the contract, one by one.Fee by fee.I once was not allowed to take a load until I signed it and faxed it back to them,(former carrier) because I refused to sign it to begin with.

 

[mjmsprt40]

I drove for a carrier (a courier company here in Chicago) that amended the contract several times and didn't tell me a thing about it. By the time I finally left, the contract I was working under bore little resemblance to the one I signed. Rates and commission were all over the map, and it's very doubtful I would sign with them again even though they've asked me to come back. Contracts are only good if the people on both sides are honorable enough to stand by what they agreed to.

 

[ATeam]

Bottom line is this-too many carriers out there try to make their money off of the driver instead of the load, generating high turnover rates, costing them more money.They'll never learn.

My fear is that they are learning. Turnover in trucking has been high since Diane and I entered the business. It seems to be a cost the companies are willing to pay because the benefits of taking money off trucks produce a net gain.

 

[davekc]

I used to work for a carrier that had a $200.00 annual administration fee...When I asked about it, where it goes, what is it for, I never did receive an answer...That was the sticker peeling deal breaker..

Bottom line is this-too many carriers out there try to make their money off of the driver instead of the load, generating high turnover rates, costing them more money.They'll never learn.

200 administration fee is pretty much a cash grab or a tough one to defend. That is likely why you got no answer on your inquiry.
I do agree with you that carriers spend way too much to recruit drivers when the answers are right in front of them. Unfortunately, many spend their time complicating the simple which can be expensive.
Phil may be right. Some really abuse it to the point you would think they are making money screwing the drivers. At some point, might run out of drivers. Recruiting bonuses are climbing so maybe we are at that curve?

 

[cableguymn]

Charles..your example for a late shipment....some acquire the load late, like real late in the system....the "protect time" is not adjusted and the carrier expects the driver to make up the lost time....and when he's late, well you know...it is NOT the drivers responsibility to drive like a mad man to make up the time....if a carrier shorts me on the time..I'll do the best That I can within the safety perameters...I refuse to speed excessively due to the carriers fault or brokers....

the other field I am in does not nail me if I am "late" but it affects my scores.. I use to take work that was near the end of the appointment window or past it thinking I was helping out the company needing the work done.

nope. i was shooting myself in the foot..

I also reject work offers from companies that charge me for late paperwork. Didn't take me long to find out THEY make it late so they can nick my pay.

 

[beachbum]

I know one thing I would never work for Turrie trucking or any other that tries to fine drivers. To me that is companies trying to make a extra buck off their drivers.

People like Mr. Turrie can make any excuse they want to fine a driver but no matter the excuse it comes back to being a crappy company to work for.

Now if you are independent and you sign a brokers. Interact with fines in them, then shame on you

 

[beachbum]

Some here think all companies have finds in their contracts, well at landstar they don't, their only fine is if you screw up to often then they just pull your contract. Logs late been there done that no problem just send them in when I got around to it, not sending in paperwork on time, it comes down to if I want to be paid that week or not.

 

[davekc]

I don't have much patience for companies that say "they have to do it". If that is the case, they all would be doing it and that is not the case. Some companies need to look a little deeper if they have to engage in these practices because they claim to have poor performing drivers while other companies see no need. Why is that?
Why would those others not see a need? Could it be they actually look at their contractors in a positive light rather than one they are so focused on screwing.
It really comes down to skillful and competent management that can actually see the bigger picture and sometimes just plain honesty.

 

[Rocketman]

The problem with this scenario imo is who makes the judgement call on whether the driver should get the original transit time? If there was going to be a fine written into the contract, then there needs to be some specifics as to how the transit time is determined.

Just allowing a set mph is not good enough either. Lets say I didnt get any sleep last night for whatever reason (running a load or whatever/any reason). The carrier calls with a load with more miles on it than I would normally accept given the circumstances, but there is 5 extra hours in the transit time. I figure I can take a nap if I need to, so I take the load. Then the shipper holds me for 3 hours or they overload me and I have to go back to get some of it taken off, or?, or?. Fat chance of getting a reasonable resolution to that one.

Once someone (a carrier in this example) starts a practice like this, its generally not long until they begin to abuse it. They either get a taste of the money or get on an ego trip and start slapping drivers with fines.

Dont embrace stupidity. Flip em off as you walk out the door

 

[Dynamite 1]

i pretty much agree on this, no fines, what a cash grab. we had the reduced pay at conway if you were late and didnt contact them. document it and no problems. that was fine but the rest, i dont think so !!!!!!!!!!!!

one more thing that was mentioned, being held up not of your own choosing and then rush, rush, rush. no, no, no, these things should be documented and adjustments made accordingly between dispatch and customer when needed. they can see you and where you been.