The media does not want it to calm down. It helps them push their agenda.
CNN and MSNBC stirring racial unrest in Ferguson, MO.
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I'm curious if the Ferguson Police Dept. have tasers or stun guns as part of their equipment. A person, supposedly a friend of the officer, called into a radio show to give the officer's account. Looks like if the officer had a taser, he could have subdued the individual with it. Since the individual decided to bum rush the officer after already trying to take his gun,what choice does the officer have? He either gets into a hand to hand tussle again and risk losing his weapon, or he draws his gun to protect himself? Seemed like a good opportunity to use a taser.
http://www.inquisitr.com/1417628/fe...wn-shooting-as-told-by-officers-friend-audio/
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Sure, that is why you have Jesse and Al there. There is profit in a crisis. Just to prolong it, a good portion of the people there now aren't even from that area.
NO, "Wedges". Like Sharpton, Jackson, Holder, Obama. People who have made a career out of driver wedges between people to divide so they can conquer. Evil
I liked mine better. It was funny. A wedgie is funny.
I liked mine better. It was funny. A wedgie is funny.
Yes, a "wedgie" is funny, they are not.
Maybe we need to give them a wedgie.
I can't answer that.
This is just brutal. Humorous, but brutal with needle precision.
"If you're a cop in the United States, you need to dress for the job you have, not the job you want."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdHIatS36A
"If you're a cop in the United States, you need to dress for the job you have, not the job you want."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdHIatS36A
To be fair, I haven't followed this all that closely, and only heard a part of that interview. However, from a use of force continuum standpoint, if the man attempted to sieze the officer's sidearm, the officer was right in employing it to stop him. If it were me, I wouldn't have gone backwards down the force 'ladder'.
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Jesse and Al have become a joke with their opportunistic appearances, but many people have joined the protest for sincere reasons. Just like many need to sightsee at a death scene, or place flowers, some people just want to be there, to show support, I guess.
Apparently the officer didn't either.(down force latter)
According to the version on the clip,there was an initial altercation by the door of the vehicle with the individual. The struggle for the gun resulted in a discharge. The assailant then was able to flee and create a distance of approx. 35 ft. The officer drew his weapon and said freeze. The assailant then proceeded to run towards the officer. My question(s), is there a different protocol other than for an officer to draw their weapon? Given that the individual is not an immediate threat, (Due to distance&no apparent weapon) was there a need to draw his weapon? Was there a different scenario or option for the officer to take after the initial tussle by the vehicle? Such as stay in his vehicle and wait for backup, or retrieve a taser from the vehicle if he had one.
Mr. Brown did not have to walk down the middle of the street to begin with. Mr. Brown did not have to "rush" the officer, if that is what happened either.
There were likely MANY things that could have avoided this, not ONLY on the part of the officer. The sad part is that it is going to be VERY difficult to get real answers. The professional "wedges" have taken over. Sending in a very racially biased Holder makes things even worse. His known history of NOT upholding the Constitution and his known history of "selective" enforcement and prosecution, makes that task twice as difficult.
It's an election year, they have the riot they were looking for.
There were likely MANY things that could have avoided this, not ONLY on the part of the officer. The sad part is that it is going to be VERY difficult to get real answers. The professional "wedges" have taken over. Sending in a very racially biased Holder makes things even worse. His known history of NOT upholding the Constitution and his known history of "selective" enforcement and prosecution, makes that task twice as difficult.
It's an election year, they have the riot they were looking for.
Had the "actor" (it's mean to call them a suspect and it might hurt their feelings so we can't do that anymore) been adequately frisked to be certain he had no weapons? It's understandable and logical the officer would draw his weapon. 35 feet isn't much distance either, 1 to 1.5 seconds at most. If you were facing a giant would you want to gamble on responding to his charging you, arming yourself, and being in a position to properly address the threat in 1 second or would you want to produce your weapon and place it in low ready just in case?
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I think it's hate brought down from the 50's and until they can get rid of that hate we will hear more and more of this junk But bottom line I was allways told that when somebody else has a gun you put your hands out in the open keep your mouth shut and do what they say if you want to live
The hate is being taught. As long as the professional "wedges" are doing what they do, little will change.
Then there is the "personal responsibility" side of things. IF things are SO bad where you live, MOVE! If one contiunues to do the same thing, day in and day out, year in, and year out, one cannot expect a different outcome. One also has to look in a mirror to see what changes need made. Each and ever person must take control of their own lives. It is NOT other's responsibility to insure your children are fed, clothed, housed and educated, it's yours, and ONLY your's.
I don't excuse bad actions by the police, neither do I excuse bad actions by individuals. Looting is illegal, and should not be allowed to occur. Doing "stupid stuff", like walking down the middle of streets calls attention to one's self. Don't want that kind of attention? DON'T DO IT!
Was this cop too quick to fire? I don't know. I would be surprised if we ever get a definitive answer. Too much has been done to "muddy the water" now. I do believe that there are many in our police departments that are on "power trips". They should be weeded out. IF this cop has committed a crime, they should deal with it. My concern is that he will be dealt with, whether he was in the wrong or not. In the name of justice.
Once this is over, things will return to "normal". The people will do little to change their circumstance. They will continue to tolerate gangs, drug dealers etc. They will continue to blame other's for their problems. The cycle will continue.
From my previous post I questioned whether he had to draw his weapon. According to the version from the radio clip, after the altercation by the vehicle and fight for the gun, it was already out of his holster. So the question I had about drawing his weapon is a moot point. I should have said is there a scenario after the officers fight for the gun, should he have holstered his weapon again due to the decreased immediate threat. ( the suspect created a distance)
IMO this case illustrates an example where a taser, if readily available, would have been very useful . The officer is trained to apprehend an individual after committing a felony. ( suspect assaulted and attempted at least great bodily harm with struggle with gun) An officer single handedly cuffing an aggressive individual almost twice the size as him would be very difficult and dangerous. Especially since the suspect attempted to take his gun. It's unfortunate there wasn't any 'middle ground' action for the officer to take, such as a taser.
IMO this case illustrates an example where a taser, if readily available, would have been very useful . The officer is trained to apprehend an individual after committing a felony. ( suspect assaulted and attempted at least great bodily harm with struggle with gun) An officer single handedly cuffing an aggressive individual almost twice the size as him would be very difficult and dangerous. Especially since the suspect attempted to take his gun. It's unfortunate there wasn't any 'middle ground' action for the officer to take, such as a taser.
Would a "taser" or "Stun gun" be effective on a person who was on PCP? How does the size and weight of the person they are used on bring to bear on their effectiveness?