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The fact that they suspended him points to Islamaphobia.? HA!
Yes. HA!

Do you know how many non Muslims have been suspended for far less threatening looking things like pop tart guns and cut out paper guns and other objects?
No, and neither do you.

The English teacher was the only teacher who summoned school officials who ultimately notified the police. So the answer is no. You don't have any evidence that she is an Islamaphobe.
I already said I didn't. I don't know who she is or anything about her.

You don't have any evidence that other school officials are either. As well as the Police Dept. that investigated the incident. The Mayor had nothing to do with the English teacher contacting school officials or with the Police in their investigation. Why you would throw the Mayor's opinion into this when she had nothing to do with it, is just throwing a red herring into the argument.
It's not a red herring, it shows both a pattern and an atmosphere of islamophobia.

Big whoop. So they looked into an anonymous chain letter.
No, they freaked out about it for 5 months.

They would be derelict if they didn't investigate bizarre anonymous e-mails.
2 minutes on Snopes would have told them it was fake and has been circulating in the Internet since 2007.

Sounds like you're using the talking points from the far left Slate article. You should at least linked to it for your source if you're going to parrot them like a far left wackadoodle Islamaphobe Alarmist.
Sorry, Slate was not one of my sources.
 
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The parents didn't sign the release of information in that case either. A pattern ...
... of maintaining some degree of their daughter's privacy ... in what is undoubtedly a relatively hostile environment apparently ...

It is Texas after all ... and all that that entails.

From your own Dead Breitbart of The Eternal Mooslim Paranoia article:

“I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with,” she said, without providing evidence or proof."

Hmmm ... so that's where you're learning that (Sen. Joe) McCarthy shtick ...

Dunno but 3 days suspension for an actual bomb threat seems a little tame to me, post 9/11 ... especially in the heart of Texas.

I would think, if the school really thought there was an actual threat, and that it was credible, it would have been reported to the police - and that a police report - even if redacted to remove the girl's actual identity (perhaps due to being a juvenile) - would be available. But I dunno ... mebbe not.

I'm surprised that the crack journalistic team over at Pickled Andrew's hasn't broke the real story, with actual facts and docs and stuff ...

Of course - and I'm just indulging your lust for pure speculation here, based on no real evidence whatsoever - it could be that the girl who made the accusation was some fanatical little Islamophobic Texas twit ... the hate-indoctrinated spawn of Bible-Humpers for Jeebus parentage ...

After all:

... hate-monkey see ... hate-monkey do ...
 
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... of maintaining some degree of their daughter's privacy ... in what is undoubtedly a relatively hostile environment apparently ...

It is Texas after all ... and all that that entails.


From your own Dead Breitbart of The Eternal Mooslim Paranoia article:

“I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with,” she said, without providing evidence or proof."

Hmmm ... so that's where you're learning that (Sen. Joe) McCarthy shtick ...

Dunno but 3 days suspension for an actual bomb threat seems a little tame to me, post 9/11 ... especially in the heart of Texas.

I would think, if the school really thought there was an actual threat, and that it was credible, it would have been reported to the police - and that a police report - even if redacted to remove the girl's actual identity (perhaps due to being a juvenile) - would be available. But I dunno ... mebbe not.

I'm surprised that the crack journalistic team over at Pickled Andrew's hasn't broke the real story, with actual facts and docs and stuff ...

Of course - and I'm just indulging your lust for pure speculation here, based on no real evidence whatsoever - it could be that the girl who made the accusation was some fanatical little Islamophobic Texas twit ... the hate-indoctrinated spawn of Bible-Humpers for Jeebus parentage ...

After all:

... hate-monkey see ... hate-monkey do ...
Lol. So when the school reports incidents to the Police like Ahmed's, they are being Islamaphobic. If they refrain from contacting the Police and deal with it themselves they are being Islamaphobic. You got your bogus theory covered both ways. Priceless . Just have papa sign the release form. But you know he won't.
 

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I'm surprised that the crack journalistic team over at Pickled Andrew's hasn't broke the real story, with actual facts and docs and stuff ...
They don't need facts and stuff, they can pick and choose, and make the rest up. Look at how the article is written. Right off the top in the subhead there's "the boy who brought the suspected hoax-bomb to his Texas school..." Not "accused of bringing," but flatly "brought." That implies he intentionally did something wrong, rather than those who falsely accused him of it. But it set the tone for "she said she was suspended from school in a prior bomb scare," which isn't even true, but intentionally did something wrong is instantly attached to her being responsible for a bomb scare.

Then, in the first paragraph, as if it matters, they use the phrase "Sudanese parents" twice. It doesn't matter to the story at all, except to right wingnut islamophobes who know, for an absolute and moral certainty, that Muslim terrorists come from Sudan, and therefore, if you are from Sudan you are almost certainly, without question, a Muslim terrorist. The same paragraph also states that Leslie Weaver, school spokeswoman, said the school can't release anything about the sister's episode because the parents won't sign the release.

They just made that up. Weaver has never said anything publicly about the sister. She said that about Ahmed. But Brietbart figures, 'well, that's probably what she would say if asked about the sister, so we'll go with that... makes us look like a real news organization that does real journalism.'

Then they make sure to get that "Mohamed" name on its own line so that it stands out prominently.

Then, it's, “I wish we could…. provide more information to the media,” said Weaver... They totally made up that quote. All of it. It looks like a partial quote, but Weaver has never said "I wish we could" nor has she said "provide more information to the media" as part of any statement at all. She's never even said those words in separate quotes. They invented a quote to for their agenda, to victimize the school who's just being the ever-vigilant protectors we want them to be, and to demonize the Muslim terrorist Sudanese parents.

Then they pull her quotes from The Daily Beast, but still in there they are able to characterize the "episode" as "The scare" because, you know... bomb threat.

After the pulled quotes, just in case you've softened a bit after reading her words, they then invoke Obama and his outrageous Tweet noting that he had "intervened" on behalf of the unfairly treated Muslim boy.

Then, to make sure the hatred and outrage is submitted, they close with, "Since 2001, several thousand Americans have been murdered or killed by Muslims, who justify their actions by citing the jihad commandments in the religion’s Koran book." Its happening right now! This is current! Thousands of Americans, several thousands of them, in fact, are being killed by Muslims all because of that Koran book, and the jihad "commandments" contained within, because, you know, every God-fearing American knows darn good and well what the Ten Commandments are and that you must, must, must not disobey them. The fact that there are no jihad commandments in the Koran is totally irrelevant.

That's some right wingnut soul-soothing agenda driven news at its finest, right there.

Lol. So when the school reports incidents to the Police like Ahmed's, they are being Islamaphobic.
No, when the school suspends him anyway even after they and the police determine it wasn't a bomb nor was it a hoax bomb they are islamophobic.

If they refrain from contacting the Police and deal with it themselves they are being Islamaphobic.
No, in failing to report terrorism and a bomb threat to the police and the FBI, they're being grossly negligent for failing to adequately protect the students.
 
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It's the Yellow Journalism paradigm. It's been refined a lot thanks to the Internet, but it's still basically the same thing, only easier to get away with and more people take it at face value as being true.
 
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THey don't need facts and stuff, they can pick and choose, and make the rest up. Look at how the article is written. Right off the top in the subhead there's "the boy who brought the suspected hoax-bomb to his Texas school..." Not "accused of bringing," but flatly "brought." That implies he intentionally did something wrong, rather than those who falsely accused him of it. But it set the tone for "she said she was suspended from school in a prior bomb scare," which isn't even true, but intentionally did something wrong is instantly attached to her being responsible for a bomb scare.

Then, in the first paragraph, as if it matters, they use the phrase "Sudanese parents" twice. It doesn't matter to the story at all, except to right wingnut islamophobes who know, for an absolute and moral certainty, that Muslim terrorists come from Sudan, and therefore, if you are from Sudan you are almost certainly, without question, a Muslim terrorist. The same paragraph also states that Leslie Weaver, school spokeswoman, said the school can't release anything about the sister's episode because the parents won't sign the release.

They just made that up. Weaver has never said anything publicly about the sister. She said that about Ahmed. But Brietbart figures, 'well, that's probably what she would say if asked about the sister, so we'll go with that... makes us look like a real news organization that does real journalism.'

Then they make sure to get that "Mohamed" name on its own line so that it stands out prominently.

Then, it's, “I wish we could…. provide more information to the media,” said Weaver... They totally made up that quote. All of it. It looks like a partial quote, but Weaver has never said "I wish we could" nor has she said "provide more information to the media" as part of any statement at all. She's never even said those words in separate quotes. They invented a quote to for their agenda, to victimize the school who's just being the ever-vigilant protectors we want them to be, and to demonize the Muslim terrorist Sudanese parents.

Then they pull her quotes from The Daily Beast, but still in there they are able to characterize the "episode" as "The scare" because, you know... bomb threat.

After the pulled quotes, just in case you've softened a bit after reading her words, they then invoke Obama and his outrageous Tweet noting that he had "intervened" on behalf of the unfairly treated Muslim boy.

Then, to make sure the hatred and outrage is submitted, they close with, "Since 2001, several thousand Americans have been murdered or killed by Muslims, who justify their actions by citing the jihad commandments in the religion’s Koran book." Its happening right now! This is current! Thousands of Americans, several thousands of them, in fact, are being killed by Muslims all because of that Koran book, and the jihad "commandments" contained within, because, you know, every God-fearing American knows darn good and well what the Ten Commandments are and that you must, must, must not disobey them. The fact that there are no jihad commandments in the Koran is totally irrelevant.

That's some right wingnut soul-soothing agenda driven news at its finest, right there.

No, when the school suspends him anyway even after they and the police determine it wasn't a bomb nor was it a hoax bomb they are islamophobic.

No, in failing to report terrorism and a bomb threat to the police and the FBI, they're being grossly negligent for failing to adequately protect the students.
You are trying real hard with that whole Ismamaphobe conspiracy thing. The kid admitted to bring the pencil case, which had the bomb like wiring in it.(Suspected hoax bomb)He clearly admitted to bringing it, so there wasn't any flaw in Brietbart's statement. The boy(Mohamed) brought the suspected(by school personnel)hoax bomb. Totally accurate statement.
In the Daily Beast article,the word SUDANESE is used TWICE. Lol.
Looks like The Daily Beast is in on the conspiracy as well.
And about the Weaver statement. You know she didn't say this how? Her initial comment was way back around Sept 16th. At that time, Ahmed's sister's story wasn't reported on until much more recent. Brietbart's story is much more recent, from the past couple of days. She was responding to a question about Ahmed's sister and the release of information . She has two separate comments, not one.
You're mistaken on this point. You are taking her quote from around nine days ago and confusing it with her much more recent comment.
Makes sense that Weaver would be asked about Ahmed's sister's case since it is a separate incident that just recently came to light.
 
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You are trying real hard with that whole Ismamaphobe conspiracy thing.
Trying real hard? With Breitbart? No. Don't even have to try. It's right there. I think you just have a problem with someone pointing out and accurately describing the slop you've been lapping up. I know I shouldn't be surprised, but even though I'm seeing it first hand, it's still hard to believe that you are actually defending the Breitbart as an accurate, honest, trusted news source.

The kid admitted to bring the pencil case, which had the bomb like wiring in it.(Suspected hoax bomb)He clearly admitted to bringing it, so there wasn't any flaw in Brietbart's statement. The boy(Mohamed) brought the suspected(by school personnel)hoax bomb. Totally accurate statement.
He clearly admitted to bringing a clock to school, not a suspected hoax bomb. He brought a clock to school. Period. Which someone later suspected of being a hoax bomb. He was at that point accused of bring a hoax bomb to school. He did not bring a suspected hoax bomb to school, as in order for him to have done that, he or someone else would have had to already suspect it was a hoax bomb before he took it to school. I take it you've never taken any journalism courses in school (or reading comprehension classes, for that matter). It's simple English.

The phrase "suspected hoax bomb" as used in the Brietbart article is a single entity, a single thing. You can replace "suspected hoax bomb" with "widget" and the sentence reads "The sister of the boy who brought a widget to his Texas high school said she was suspended from a school in a prior bomb scare." If the sentence read in part "boy who brought a suspected widget to his..." then it would imply that the boy suspected it was a widget, exactly the same as "suspected hoax bomb" implies the boy suspected it was a hoax bomb.

If the sentence had read, "The sister of the boy who was suspected of bringing a hoax bomb to his Texas high school said she was suspended from a school in a prior bomb scare," then you could say there wasn't any flaw in Brietbart's statement and that it's a totally accurate statement (except, of course, for the "bomb scare" part which, again, isn't even true.

By wording it the way Brietbart did, the story explicitly implies he intentionally did something wrong, rather than those who falsely accused him of it.

Let me ask you this.. if someone says, "I'm going to the big fish market." what do you think that means? Are they going to a big market that sells fish, or are they going to a market where you can get big fish?

If somebody says, "He's a good fastball hitter," does that mean he's good at hitting a fast ball, or does it mean he can hit a good fastball?

Either Brietbart is brilliant and know they can wordsmith things to dupe their audience, or they are just as ignorant and believe what they're shoveling. Or maybe both. After all, they do it for a living.

In the Daily Beast article,the word SUDANESE is used TWICE. Lol.
Looks like The Daily Beast is in on the conspiracy as well.
Yes, they used the word twice. "Sudanese bread" and "Sudanese food." Both times it was relevant to the story being told because it was part of a quote. The Daily Beast story did not mention "Sudanese parents" at all, much less as part of an agenda.

And about the Weaver statement. You know she didn't say this how?
There is no public record anywhere of her saying that, or even commenting on the sister in any way.

Her initial comment was way back around Sept 16th. At that time, Ahmed's sister's story wasn't reported on until much more recent.
Leslie Weaver never said that quote then, either.

Brietbart's story is much more recent, from the past couple of days. She was responding to a question about Ahmed's sister and the release of information . She has two separate comments, not one.
Who asked her the question? Show me where her full quote is shown anywhere. Not the same dotdotdot quote that Brietbart made up, but her full sentence. You will not be able to do that. There are no news stories anywhere that report Lesie Weaver of having any comments whatsoever regarding the sister in any capacity. The only place you will find that quote, complete with the dotdotdot in the middle of it and everything, is at right wingnut websites that have reprinted the article from Brietbart. Right where they made it up and it first appeared on the Internet.

You're mistaken on this point. You are taking her quote from around nine days ago and confusing it with her much more recent comment.
I'm taking the quote directly from the Brietbart article. It's impossible for me to be confusing it with her much more recent comment, as there is no much more recent comment.

Makes sense that Weaver would be asked about Ahmed's sister's case since it is a separate incident that just recently came to light.
Yes it does make sense, which is why Brietbart can make up story and a quote to go along with it, attribute to Weaver, and people like you and every crackpot nutjob who reprinted it will believe she was actually asked about the sister and responded with that quote.
 
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And - with the sharp stick now having been ground down to a dull point from continual repeated skewering of the eyeballs - the blood still continues to drip from the empty sockets ...
 

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Yeah, the Daily Beast had to get the Sudanese food into their story. Very Islamaphobic of them. They didn't have to mention that. What were they thinking? :rolleyes:Just conveying the message to everyone that they eat... Sudanese food, that's all.:rolleyes:
They had to let everyone know that they love... Sudanese food.

Why would there be a public comment( press conference) from her when the incident occurred a few years ago? She was giving a statement after Breitbart inquired about the story. None of the other news organizations even wrote about the story about Ahmed's sister. So they obviously wouldn't get her statement. Indicative of liberal news organizations not wanting to ruin the warm and fuzzy story of the clock kid being victimized by Islamaphobia. It's a story Islamaphobe Alarmists like to keep nice and tidy too. But it's a relevant story. Ahmed, the clock maker, with his activist father, and a sister who likes to scare school kids by saying Boom, Boom, out go the lights. It's something that news organizations should look at and inform their readers .Brietbart News looked at the story and got a statement from her. Her statement was the quote. You don't know that it is a made up quote. You don't know that. Just your flawed opinion.Your conclusion was that Brietbart made up a quote, because she was quoted by them and you had not seen the quote before, so therefore it MUST be a fake quote. Sheer lunacy, T Shizzle. :D
 

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And - with the sharp stick now having been ground down to a dull point from continual repeated skewering of the eyeballs - the blood still continues to drip from the empty sockets ...
Are you in any pain? And do you hate it when that happens so often to you?
 

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Are you in any pain?
Of course not ... why would what you are doing to your own eyes cause me to feel any pain ?

And do you hate it when that happens so often to you?
Do you hate it when you are often left as the sole voice of right-wing kookery ... still tilting at the imaginary demons that inhabit what passes for the right-wing mind ?
 

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Yeah, the Daily Beast had to get the Sudanese food into their story. Very Islamaphobic of them. They didn't have to mention that. What were they thinking? :rolleyes:Just conveying the message to everyone that they eat... Sudanese food, that's all.:rolleyes:
They had to let everyone know that they love... Sudanese food.
Now you're sounding like a 5 year old. That or seriously unbalanced.

Why would there be a public comment( press conference) from her when the incident occurred a few years ago? She was giving a statement after Breitbart inquired about the story.
You think Brietbart actually contacted anyone at the school for the story? :JC-hysterical:

If they had, they would have said so. Someone farts in Texas and "Breitbart Texas" gets the reporting credit. Brietbart is very big on tooting it's own horn, and if they had gotten an statement of any kind from Leslie Weaver they absolutely would have said so, in detail. They always do. They'd have said when they got it, and how, and they would have fully quoted the pee out of her. Instead, they have a condensed quote with a big chunk of the middle of her sentence removed.

I wonder what is missing in the middle of her quote? Maybe the full quote was actually, "I wish we could have pizza for lunch, or maybe mac and cheese. Hey, Larry! What's up with the Cowboys linebacker situation? No? I don't, either. They need to call a press conference and provide more information to the media,” said Weaver.

They quoted the sister fully from their sourced article. Why condense the school's spokeswoman's single, solitary one-line quote? They didn't even quote her about mailing the consent form to the "immigrant Sudanese parents," which means they probably made that part up, too. They could have easily quoted her, since, you know, they said "she said." It would have been far easier to just quote her than to paraphrase and summarize what she said. That's journalism 101 stuff.

None of the other news organizations even wrote about the story about Ahmed's sister. So they obviously wouldn't get her statement.
None of the other news organizations wrote about the story because it's a non-story. Some kid, even Ahmed's sister, getting suspended for 3 days several years ago is only newsworthy to to an islamaophobe. Sorry.

Indicative of liberal news organizations not wanting to ruin the warm and fuzzy story of the clock kid being victimized by Islamaphobia. It's a story Islamaphobe Alarmists like to keep nice and tidy too. But it's a relevant story. Ahmed, the clock maker, with his activist father, and a sister who likes to scare school kids by saying Boom, Boom, out go the lights. It's something that news organizations should look at and inform their readers .
Yeah, uhm, OK.

Brietbart News looked at the story and got a statement from her.
Wow, you really and truly believe that, don't you? What they did was look at the Daily Beast story and then made up stuff to further their agenda. They quoted the sister verbatim, and sourced it. They condensed quoted Weaver and didn't even source it.

Her statement was the quote.
Nobody talks with a set of ellipsis in the middle of their sentences, especially an ellipsis with an extra dot. Like I said, show me the full quote. If you can do that, I'll believe Brietbart talked to her.

You don't know that it is a made up quote. You don't know that.
Yes I do, and I'd bet real money on it.

Just your flawed opinion.
Sorry, no.

Your conclusion was that Brietbart made up a quote, because she was quoted by them and you had not seen the quote before, so therefore it MUST be a fake quote. Sheer lunacy, T Shizzle. :D
Nope, that's not why I concluded it was made up. I concluded it was made up because they didn't quote her fully, they didn't say when they talked to her, they didn't source it (not even as Brietbart Texas). It makes no sense of any kind, much less journalistic sense, to not say how you got the quote (phone, email, in person?) and then to condense an original, vital quote with an ellipsis. When that happens it is invariably because it is made up. But a quote like that was needed for the article in order to tell the story they wanted to tell (instead of just telling the story as it is). Plus, Neil Munro wrote the piece, who is semi-famous for several things, not the least of which is heckling the President in the Rose Garden (rah, rah Neil), but also famous for inventing sources and quotes, which is one of the many reasons he "quit" his former job after one too may runs-ins with Tucker Carlson.
 
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Now you're sounding like a 5 year old. That or seriously unbalanced.

You think Brietbart actually contacted anyone at the school for the story? :JC-hysterical:

If they had, they would have said so. Someone farts in Texas and "Breitbart Texas" gets the reporting credit. Brietbart is very big on tooting it's own horn, and if they had gotten an statement of any kind from Leslie Weaver they absolutely would have said so, in detail. They always do. They'd have said when they got it, and how, and they would have fully quoted the pee out of her. Instead, they have a condensed quote with a big chunk of the middle of her sentence removed.

I wonder that is missing in the middle of her quote? Maybe the full quote was actually, "I wish we could have pizza for lunch, or maybe mac and cheese. Hey, Larry! What's up with the Cowboys linebacker situation? No? I don't, either. They need to call a press conference and provide more information to the media,” said Weaver.

They quoted the sister fully from their sourced article. Why condense the school's spokeswoman's single, solitary one-line quote? They didn't even quote her about mailing the consent form to the "immigrant Sudanese parents," which means they probably made that part up, too. They could have easily quoted her, since, you know, they said "she said." It would have been far easier to just quote her than to paraphrase and summarize what she said. That's journalism 101 stuff.

None of the other news organizations wrote about the story because it's a non-story. Some kid, even Ahmed's sister, getting suspended for 3 days several years ago is only newsworthy to to an islamaophobe. Sorry.

Yeah, uhm, OK.

Wow, you really and truly believe that, don't you? What they did was look at the Daily Beast story and then made up stuff to further their agenda. They quoted the sister verbatim, and sourced it. They condensed quoted Weaver and didn't even source it.

Nobody talks with a set of ellipsis in the middle of their sentences, especially an ellipsis with an extra dot. Like I said, show me the full quote. If you can do that, I'll believe Brietbart talked to her.

Yes I do, and I'd bet real money on it.

Sorry, no.

Nope, that's not why I concluded it was made up. I concluded it was made up because they didn't quote her fully, they didn't say when they talked to her, they didn't source it (not even as Brietbart Texas). It makes no sense of any kind, much less journalistic sense, to not say how you got the quote (phone, email, in person?) and then to condense an original, vital quote with an ellipsis. When that happens it is invariably because it is made up. But a quote like that was needed for the article in order to tell the story they wanted to tell (instead of just telling the story as it is). Plus, Neil Munro wrote the piece, who is semi-famous for several things, not the least of which is heckling the President in the Rose Garden (rah, rah Neil), but also famous for inventing sources and quotes, which is one of the many reasons he "quit" his former job after one too may runs-ins with Tucker Carlson.
You don't know that is fake quote. It said right in the story that she TOLD Brietbart. Journalists often don't describe that it was an interview by phone, but that is the way it's most often done for logistical reasons. (Journalism 101) It was only a comment from Weaver because that was all she could comment on due to restrictions on what could be said about the case. The sister comparison is an flailing attempt at rationalizing the difference between the two quotes. That was all that Weaver said. Isn't it curious she hasn't said that she was misquoted OR THAT A FAKE QUOTE WAS ATTRIBUTED TO HER? She has not disputed the quote. So until she does so, it is nothing more by you than a desperate attempt to mislead.
Throwing in the heckling of Obama by you was a nice touch. You couldn't resist, could you?
 
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