CLint Eastwood to speak at the Republican Convention

OntarioVanMan

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I mean all of them were lying?:D

some of the jurists thought so....Not Guilty.....you are talking a court of law now....the system set him free....what you think you know and what you know and everyone thinks they know, make no matter...the system that you are sworn as a citizen to protect at all costs....may not be prefect 100% of the time, but it is what you have to work with...Constitutional rights MUST be adhered to the letter of the law....
 

cheri1122

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Juanita Boderick by most accounts was credible,whether you view it as a" legitimate rape" or not.

Irrelevant, either way.

You veered this thread off topic by bringing up Clint Eastwood's personal life .

The topic is Eastwood's appearance at the R convention. He is not a political figure [former mayors don't rate an invite] so he was invited to help show how his friend Romney is a better choice to lead the country. As he has no personal experience in leading the country, he can only offer himself as a character witness. To the party that introduced and continues to promote the Defense of Marriage Act, Eastwood's personal history should be deplored, not ignored.
Clinton is a former Dem POTUS, which has nothing to do with the party platform. In this context, his experience is what he brings to the convention, not his personal history or character.

I just offered a comparison to your post.

You diverted the criticism [rather than rebut it] with an apples to razor blades comparison.
 

muttly

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You diverted the criticism [rather than rebut it] with an apples to razor blades comparison.

Apples to razor blades comparison? :D More like the pot calling the kettle black.
No need for me to rebut anything. It wasn't my assertion about Clint Eastwood's character and the GOP. I mad a similar comparison regarding Bill clinton and the Democrats. Quite frankly the weak rebuttal was filled with excuses,qualifiers, and legal issues, that quite frankly didn't pass the smell test.
 

jujubeans

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I liked Clint Eastwoods speech..but I guess it's like talking to an empty chair with the Monday morning quarterbacks from the opposing team.
 

Turtle

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I'm going to find funny is when those who really, really liked Clint Eastwood speaking at the RNC, even defend his doing so, think he was excellent and an excellent choice to speak, will be some of the loudest voices condemning the use of Hollywood types at the DNC.
 

skyraider

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I'm going to find funny is when those who really, really liked Clint Eastwood speaking at the RNC, even defend his doing so, think he was excellent and an excellent choice to speak, will be some of the loudest voices condemning the use of Hollywood types at the DNC.

Naw, I just PMed all the folks here and they said they will be nice on that ...............
 

muttly

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A straw man argument. Clint Eastwood was the only one to speak at the convention and only a handful of celebrities that have spoken out against Obama in the media. There is a whole army of them for Obama that speak out daily,ad nauseum, with comments in the media and so forth. I think it is funny that some would have a problem with the RNC having ONE celebrity speaking at the convention. It is also funny to see his character trashed when his politics is aligned more with those that are socaily liberal. He's pro gay rights,pro choice,and pro women's equal rights.
 

layoutshooter

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Ignored Eastwood at the Convention. WAIT! I ignored the Convention! I will ignore the one starting today as well. No need to listen to Marxists rant.
 

jujubeans

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I'm going to find funny is when those who really, really liked Clint Eastwood speaking at the RNC, even defend his doing so, think he was excellent and an excellent choice to speak, will be some of the loudest voices condemning the use of Hollywood types at the DNC.
No Turtle...some of the loudest voices will be the ones condemning Obama.
 

cheri1122

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A straw man argument. Clint Eastwood was the only one to speak at the convention and only a handful of celebrities that have spoken out against Obama in the media. There is a whole army of them for Obama that speak out daily,ad nauseum, with comments in the media and so forth. I think it is funny that some would have a problem with the RNC having ONE celebrity speaking at the convention. It is also funny to see his character trashed when his politics is aligned more with those that are socaily liberal. He's pro gay rights,pro choice,and pro women's equal rights.

Can you show where anyone had any problem with a 'celebrity' speaking at the RNC? Anywhere? Anyone? Just one, even?

"Trashed" his character? I simply noted that the man has a 'colorful' personal history, and the official party of Family Values and Defense of Marriage seems quite proud of a man whose own family values have ripped out the sanctity of marriage and stomped that sucker flat, is all.
Jeez, I didn't even mention how he singled out another Hollywood Republican for recognition: Jon Voight. You know, the guy whose daughter [Angelina Jolie] would have nothing to do with him because he disrespected her mother in public - another stellar defender of marriage & family values, eh?
I know Eastwood's political perspective, [and agree with it], but the question is why Romney was willing to overlook the man's personal character [he's described as a friend, so it seems odd that he wouldn't know it] when putting him into such a huge spotlight, because personal responsibility is such a buzzword among his people. [I bet if they couldn't use buzzwords & cliches, they'd be speechless. Literally.]
 

muttly

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Can you show where anyone had any problem with a 'celebrity' speaking at the RNC? Anywhere? Anyone? Just one, even?

"Trashed" his character? I simply noted that the man has a 'colorful' personal history, and the official party of Family Values and Defense of Marriage seems quite proud of a man whose own family values have ripped out the sanctity of marriage and stomped that sucker flat, is all.
Jeez, I didn't even mention how he singled out another Hollywood Republican for recognition: Jon Voight. You know, the guy whose daughter [Angelina Jolie] would have nothing to do with him because he disrespected her mother in public - another stellar defender of marriage & family values, eh?
I know Eastwood's political perspective, [and agree with it], but the question is why Romney was willing to overlook the man's personal character [he's described as a friend, so it seems odd that he wouldn't know it] when putting him into such a huge spotlight, because personal responsibility is such a buzzword among his people. [I bet if they couldn't use buzzwords & cliches, they'd be speechless. Literally.]

You had a problem with him speaking. You. Hello?:D You found it somehow necessary to bring up some details of his personal life for what reason.? To try to point out some type of hypocrisy with the GOP for having him speak. Ok he was married twice and lived with some women. One of them that was married to gay individual.(not that there is anything wrong with that-Seinfeld reference).
Whoopdedo. I didn't see anything in his bio about him abusing women,sexual assault,or otherwise.
You keep bringing up the Family values issue to point out some type of hypocrisy. My only question is :IF YOU SEE THE HYPOCRISY IN THAT, WHY DON'T YOU SEE THE SAME HYPOCRISY WITH THE DNC HAVING BILL CLINTON AT THE CONVENTION GIVING A PRIMETIME SPEECH ?
This is the party that portrays itself as the defender of womens rights ,etc. My only conclusion that I can come up with is that you are willing to turn a blind eye to Bill Clinton's past dilly dallyings because you are on the same page with him regarding abortion and gay marriage. I mean if you have a double standard why don't you just admit it?
 

cheri1122

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You had a problem with him speaking. You. Hello?

Not because he's a celebrity, but because he is exactly the kind of person the Republicans claim they're defending marriage from: one who doesn't respect it.

:D You found it somehow necessary to bring up some details of his personal life for what reason.? To try to point out some type of hypocrisy with the GOP for having him speak. Ok he was married twice and lived with some women. One of them that was married to gay individual.(not that there is anything wrong with that-Seinfeld reference).
Whoopdedo. I didn't see anything in his bio about him abusing women,sexual assault,or otherwise.
You keep bringing up the Family values issue to point out some type of hypocrisy. My only question is :IF YOU SEE THE HYPOCRISY IN THAT, WHY DON'T YOU SEE THE SAME HYPOCRISY WITH THE DNC HAVING BILL CLINTON AT THE CONVENTION GIVING A PRIMETIME SPEECH ?

Because the Republican party includes Family Values and Defense of Marriage as an inherent part of their official platform, while the DNC does not.

This is the party that portrays itself as the defender of womens rights ,etc.

Only in response to R legislation attacking women's rights. If the R pols would quit trying to legislate against contraceptives, defund Family Planning, etc, the D pols would shut up, and they could all work on important issues. [You know, like cybersecurity?] The Dems don't particularly want to defend women's rights, it's just that they feel someone has to, when the Repubs keep trying to take them away.
Repubs in the states of Oh, Ok, Or, Ms, Mt, Nv, Ar, Fl, & Ca have tried getting signatures on petitions to ban abortion, and failed every time, but they don't hear what the people are telling them. Just like you don't hear what I'm telling you.


My only conclusion that I can come up with is that you are willing to turn a blind eye to Bill Clinton's past dilly dallyings because you are on the same page with him regarding abortion and gay marriage. I mean if you have a double standard why don't you just admit it?

Too funny: I'm on the same page with Clint Eastwood too, politically, but you can't see the difference at all.
I'm done here, it's been fun.
:rolleyes:
 

pelicn

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I brought up his personal life [as already explained] because it wasn't the actor on stage, it was the person.
Most people like the roles he has played, and/or his talents as a director, but that's what the Oscars are for - the RNC is about the character of the Republican party and the candidate chosen to represent them. The people Romney calls friends [like Eastwood] are an indication of that character, which makes Eastwood's character relevant, IMO.

I agree with what you're saying Cheri...and Obama has the same trouble ten fold
 

pelicn

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I'd really like to know is why Clint Eastwood's opinion matters in the first place? I love the "actor" but his personal opinion is just that personal opinion!
 

cheri1122

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It doesn't matter, Pel, if he was some random guy on the street they wouldn't care. But Clint Eastwood, all they see is who he portrayed on screen and forget there's a regular person behind the roleplaying.
It's the regular person I was commenting on, because his personal life has been diametrically opposite of what Romney stands for.
But that's ok, when it's Dirty Harry, I guess.
:rolleyes:
 

muttly

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Bill Clinton,all they see is that he was President and forget the regular guy and the "playing" he did. It was his personal life I was referring to because it opposite to what I thought Obama stands for, before he asked him to speak and vouch for him. But that's ok when it's Slick Willie.
I made my point. No need to continuesly go over the same argument again.
 

Turtle

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Bill Clinton,all they see is that he was President and forget the regular guy and the "playing" he did.
While I'm not a fan of the guy at all, let's get real, "President of The United States" more or less trumps "regular guy", and has a significantly better hand than "Dirty Harry actor".
 
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