Cities getting creative with Citizen Fees

letzrockexpress

Veteran Expediter
In reality in Michigan at least, No-Fault = My-Fault and rates continue to go up. Layoutshooter


Just one more reason Michigan Sucks...

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Retired Expediter
OK, I have nice for a long time, all bets are off now!!!! At least Michigan does not have a "Nut" for a mascot!!!! I would much rather be a "Wolverine" than a "Buckeye" After all, a nut is a nut. I guess that explains a lot in your case. Now we know where you "Nutty" ideas come from!!!! LOL :p Layoutshooter
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
OK, I have nice for a long time, all bets are off now!!!! At least Michigan does not have a "Nut" for a mascot!!!! I would much rather be a "Wolverine" than a "Buckeye" After all, a nut is a nut. I guess that explains a lot in your case. Now we know where you "Nutty" ideas come from!!!! LOL :p Layoutshooter

I haven't yet found a wolverine in the state but I know where i can get buckeyes in ohio.

When was the last sighting of a wolverine in michigan?
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Wolverines have never been native to Michigan. We are far south of thier range. The last sighting of one in Michigan was four or five years ago up in the "Thumb" area. I forget the town. It was found running around on a land fill. Nothing bothered it there, nothing with enough "guts" to try. It was the King of the Trash hill, so to speak. The theory on how that one got there is that it somehow made it onto one of the zillions of Canadian trash trucks that dump in Michingan every day. There were a few that came down from areas far enough north to support wolverines. Layoutshooter
 

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Retired Expediter
Yes and it spilled over into college sports, mainly Michigan and Ohio State. We still have "border skirmishes" around the Toledo/Michigan line. When my house was broken into, I live in Michingan, it was part of a Toledo gang of "crack heads" that did it. More proof of the "Danger" that is Ohio!!! :eek:

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letzrockexpress

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Yes and it spilled over into college sports, mainly Michigan and Ohio State. We still have "border skirmishes" around the Toledo/Michigan line. When my house was broken into, I live in Michingan, it was part of a Toledo gang of "crack heads" that did it. More proof of the "Danger" that is Ohio!!! :eek:Layoutshooter

A man as well armed as you couldn't scare off a couple crackheads??
 

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Retired Expediter
No one was home at the time or they would have never made it to trial. They would have taken up permenant residence in La Salle's biggist "community", the cemetary. Layoutshooter
 

inkasnana

Expert Expediter
Not being from either state, is the rivalry left overs from the Toledo War?

I don't know anything about the Toledo War. I just know for a long time it's been a big rivalry between U of M and OSU. It's always a big game when they are competing to see who will go to the Rose Bowl.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Look it up Inkasana. It a very interesting time in the history of our region and it shapped the maps as you know them today. Layoutshooter
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Yea, it ended by us giving up our claim to Toledo and we got the UP where they speak funny and eat funny things.:D
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
It was called the Battle of Fallen Timbers..

That was 41 years before the Toledo War - the war I am referring to and the Toledo war was the "war" between the territories of Michigan and Ohio over the "Toledo Strip", before they became states.

The Battle of Fallen Timbers was between the Western Lakes coalition (confederacy) and the United States over much of what we now call Ohio. I am sitting not far from where this battle took place, and it was the final battle of a war that ended up with the treaty of Greenville. And with that Indian defeat, it triggered another war with the Indians some time later with the only leader who refused to sign the Greenville treaty - Tecumse.
 

greg334

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I don't think so, I've been working in Toledo a lot and haven't in Detroit. I also don't see the Toledo as a war zone, Detroit is just like Berlin 1945, even has burned out buildings and some empty shells like Berlin - Toledo I seen a few boarded up houses.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
What, pray tell, do they eat? :eek:

Mind you my Mother came from Han****, on the north west part of the UP and we as kids going up there to visit our grandparents we were exposed to all kinds of horrors and delights. I posted one such adventure here but I failed to find it again.

The cuisine is unique in that part of the state because of the people from all different walks of life working closely together. Mainly people from the UK settled the area followed by finlanders, swedes, Croats, Germans Serbians and even Africans. The cusine was a mixture of these elements, for example I always thought that the bread that my grandmother made was form the old country and come to find out it came from Africa.

Now as kids we had to visit the old people, freinds of the family and they would as usual put on a big spread. Sometimes it was great food; I knew what beef wellington was before I was 8 because it was always made and served when we visited my grandfathers supervisor's family. Other times it was horrible; like the haggas on Robert Burns day (which I wrote about).

So as a kid and before I hit 10, I knew what Lutefish was and how it was made, I knew of course what pasties were and how to make them and we we so used to asking for things by their names we didn't think where they came from;
Kanelbule - cimmonon rolls
Lussekatt - saffron buns
Pettuleipaa - Bark Bread

there was a candy maker turned miner who would make what we called vinefish, which were actally called winefish and was gummy fish. He had a thick accent so the W's were alway V's. We have all kinds of great deserts to eat but there was always a balance to deal with - good vs. evil food.

It was the fish, the horrible fish that got us kids. We didn't like the reindeer roast or the pork and rabbit stew but it was the fish. I was at a drop a while ago and I smelt something that brought back a lot of memories, it was a foul stench that I have been so afriad of smelling that I had to go back to my truck and vomit. This stop had some finlanders working there and they were enjoying a day out in the sun eating their fish, surstroming fish. Now Moot can confirm this, it is herring which is fermented in a can, rotted in the can to be exact. It is an undescrible smell and when we had it as kids, we were all sick for the rest of our vacation - didn't want to eat a thing. It is served outdoors (when we had it, it was winter time and we didn't dare complain about the cold). We had to eat it, no choice and we also had the salmon version of it which I understood was local, not ethinic.

So they eat funny things.
 
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