After 8 years delivering in NYC, I wonder if Bison might not be a LOT more civilized
Bison has saved my life.....it is a whole different life out here....
Carrier cutting rates
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Bison has saved my life.....it is a whole different life out here....
We are a team in a straight truck with E-1 and as I read through these I can only laugh. we knew pay decreases were coming but we knew they were coming for the right reasons. We had our most profitable months in January and February than we have ever had with any other company and in this industry these months are usually slower months as we all know but we are running miles we usually only see in the busier months. And I believe E-1 when they tell us more miles are coming because we have already seen it. We saw a team from a competitor 'meow' company at the truck stop the other day who had only 1300 miles in a week. we ran that in two days. so everyone can make jokes and laugh at our rate decerases as much as they want but all i can say is we have the freight we are running non stop and our paychecks will not be affected by the change because we are seeing more miles now than we have in the last year and it will only get better from here. How many of you can say that? We have been with E-1 for 2 years now this company has never given is reason to believe that what they do is for the better. Its one of the best companies we have ever worked for. Now I have to go because we have to hit the road. Just dropped in PA and heading to pick up a load in PA to Laredo for Monday drop and redlivery Laredo for drop in Michigan for Tuesday night.
Well, this is my third rate reduction in 8 years. started with .77 +100% FSC, 1.05 +100% FSC, 1.15 +100% FSC.
Note- Sprinter rates
1st rate reduction
.70 +50% FSC, .80 + 50 % FSC, 1.00 and 1.05 both + 50% FSC
2nd
.70 + who knows % of FSC
1.00 +" "
3rd
.80
After the smoke cleared, no I did not make more. I made more miles and fact check, less money.
Feb. was my best Feb of the 8 I've been with E-1, using the new rate reduction it would not have been the same. I know I know, "but you say I will get more miles" so what. More miles, expense's up, crappy FSC, less or less O/I much lower.
Old rate I got 70.00 bucks D/H pay, new rate using the .35 for D/H pay was a lot less than I got anyway. the only thing that is just a little bit better than running with a Multi Carrier format is the D/H and FSC pay.
Now, one thing I am thinking about doing, is going to 9 feet of cargo. Lower my height to 55", lower my weight down 500 to 800 lbs. I think that is a fair .80 pm rate for a Sprinter.
That way I will not have to worry about sleeping in the seat with 3 skids behind me.
Now, if you want to run more and shorten the life of your equipment, go for it. It will work for you. Lets see how you feel about it when the new rates kick in Sunday. Then you will see how much your loss is. Try it for a month.
You know we bill out to the customers the highest FSC of anyone....... Where is your fair share. My part of 100% of FSC is going in the pot to pay yours and yours in the pot to help out our T/T friends, and what's left over is used to give each other a raise in the Home Office.........
No one likes change.
However, If I am on a burnning ship and I look over the rail and see a life boat, I will be changing My situation very quickly to get in the life boat.
It's a shame to me, that Express-1 is no longer a leader in this field.
I am just truly amazed at how many in our industry seem to lack a calculator or the basic concepts of operating one.
Then again, it could be recruiters posing as drivers. Never want to ASSUME something.
BTW....where is Forrest?
If one takes off the blinders...and if you disregard Panthers silly rules...the Panther rate is looking pretty good now....
I am just truly amazed at how many in our industry seem to lack a calculator or the basic concepts of operating one.
Then again, it could be recruiters posing as drivers. Never want to ASSUME something.
BTW....where is Forrest?
I thought the same thing. Two poster's one has 1 post the other 2.... oh, will you look at that- both joined in Feb 2013...... Forrest is out running, saying- "stupid is as stupid does"
The best plan I can think of ...buy a cheap CV and run the guts out of it for as long as you can...keep the PM down, don't invest a lot of $$$$ into it and then dump it after 3-4 yrs and start all over....that is what carriers seem to want......
seems that is what Gibbs will be doing....a team straight running a lot of miles can easily gross 200,000 gross a year...run it into the ground for 3 years and there ya go...
seems that is what Gibbs will be doing....a team straight running a lot of miles can easily gross 200,000 gross a year...run it into the ground for 3 years and there ya go...
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bryantfan114
Active Expediter
"Well, this is my third rate reduction in 8 years."
So what has kept you at E-1 for 8 years then? I've been there for 4 and have no intentions on leaving. Just curious??
So what has kept you at E-1 for 8 years then? I've been there for 4 and have no intentions on leaving. Just curious??
zorry
Veteran Expediter
B114- you missed the sarcasm I wouldn't brag that my team ran 1300 miles in two days.
A solo,1300 miles in two days is great.
A team, 1300 miles in ONE day is good.
A team running 1300 miles in two days isn't a braggable fact. .
Even as I was learning expediting I didn't settle for E-1 type rates.
If you enjoy them, drive on.
A solo,1300 miles in two days is great.
A team, 1300 miles in ONE day is good.
A team running 1300 miles in two days isn't a braggable fact. .
Even as I was learning expediting I didn't settle for E-1 type rates.
If you enjoy them, drive on.
bryantfan114
Active Expediter
I'm not on this post to argue just simply here to say I have been with E-1 for 4 years now and no matter what has happened along the way , new owners, new president , I have never been steered in the wrong direction. I am not going anywhere. Happy E-1 driver.
bryantfan114
Active Expediter
Deleted the second post because I made you look like a *******
Joined today to stand up for my company and will no longer be posting on here because I have better things to do with my time like pick up a 1,576 mile load tomorrow morning at 8. Night everyone no more posts from the Kobe Bryant fan so proceed as you wish.Yes and as stated elsewhere in this thread E-1 is lowering the rates to attract some customers that they used to have contracts with. Then when those customers go back to E-1, Panther or some other company will lower the rates even more to get them back, and the vicious cycle will continue until all of the drivers go bankrupt. The deivers are the ones who are caught in this ridiculous price war. How can a company increase gross revenue by 180 percent and still have a 9 million dollar loss? It seens that not only are the O/O's at E-1 running at a loss but so is the company. Also I doubt you guys own your truck. The only person who would be happy about more miles and less pay is a fleet driver that doesn't really care if the truck gets ran into the ground as long as their paycheck is steady!
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guido4475
Not a Member
You are so right, as this not only applies to E-1, but other companies as well who continually drop their driver pay rate, expecting them to take up the slack. As I said earlier, I really wonder if it is the price to the customer that is being lowered, along with the driver pay, or just the driver pay itself?
I also wonder, if they are fleet owner drivers, if their pay will be less as well.
I would answer that, but you said you would not be comming back. You will not see the the answer.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
My bad. Wasn't sure if I should go with the Jets or the Browns.
When in doubt go Raiders /: )
paullud
Veteran Expediter
When you are blind and in a desert there really is no way to be steered in the wrong direction.