Buying sprinter vs 10-14k GVWR box truck?

[ntimevan]

Ovm's E-1 van before sprinter ....?

 

[tknight]

It has nice wheels,just add some paint and your ready!

 

[fastman_1]

Ovm's E-1 van before sprinter ....?

I had a 68 back in the day, a old Ohio Bell Van.


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[xmudman]

But would you want to pull the big hills on 77 in NC and WV with one?

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[Moot]

I had a 68 back in the day, a old Ohio Bell Van.

Three on the tree?

 

[scottm4211]

Three on the tree?

Nothing more satisfying than that first to second shift.

 

[fastman_1]

Three on the tree?

You betcha!


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[Moot]

When I was in highschool a friend bought a Peugeot sedan from his sister. It was a 4 speed with the shifter on the column.

 

[scottm4211]

When I was in highschool a friend bought a Peugeot sedan from his sister. It was a 4 speed with the shifter on the column.

Then there's the excellent Citroen 2CV and it's 4 sp sprouting from the dash.

Citroen 2 CV gearchange

 

[Moot]

WOW! Those wacky Frogs.

 

[fastman_1]

When I was in highschool a friend bought a Peugeot sedan from his sister. It was a 4 speed with the shifter on the column.

Don't think I've ever seen that.


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[scottm4211]

WOW! Those wacky Frogs.

Maybe the most advanced designs ever produced.

 

[guido4475]

There are certainly several 3 and 4 pallet loads out there, but there's a reason that most expediting trucks can carry one or two pallets, or more than 4 pallets, and it's because most expedite loads are 1 or 2 pallets, or 5 or more.

If you can haul 4 pallets you'll get a few 4 pallet loads. But that doesn't necessarily mean you're running instead of sitting. Usually it just means that you're running it for cheaper than the customer would otherwise pay to put it on two vans or one straight truck. If you can't carry 4 skids then you'll simply get a 1 or 2 skid load, instead.

The goal really shouldn't be to see how many pallets you can haul or to see how often you can haul heavy. You'll make a snotload more money per mile hauling 150 pounds than you will hauling 3000 pounds. The line haul rate is usually the same for 1 or 4 pallets, but your CPM is far less with one or two light skids than it is with 3 or 4 heavy skids. Give me a 50 pound box or an envelope any time over a 3000 pound load.

The self-fooling happens when "Ha ha ha, I'm loaded with 4 pallets that you can't haul. Neener Neener," when the other guy a few minutes later gets a two skid load that nets him more per mile.

Exactly
I couldn't agree more.

Why are there some who think that a driver has to haul more freight or weight to make money?.

Give me small and light anyday.

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[Ragman]

There are certainly several 3 and 4 pallet loads out there, but there's a reason that most expediting trucks can carry one or two pallets, or more than 4 pallets, and it's because most expedite loads are 1 or 2 pallets, or 5 or more.

If you can haul 4 pallets you'll get a few 4 pallet loads. But that doesn't necessarily mean you're running instead of sitting. Usually it just means that you're running it for cheaper than the customer would otherwise pay to put it on two vans or one straight truck. If you can't carry 4 skids then you'll simply get a 1 or 2 skid load, instead.

The goal really shouldn't be to see how many pallets you can haul or to see how often you can haul heavy. You'll make a snotload more money per mile hauling 150 pounds than you will hauling 3000 pounds. The line haul rate is usually the same for 1 or 4 pallets, but your CPM is far less with one or two light skids than it is with 3 or 4 heavy skids. Give me a 50 pound box or an envelope any time over a 3000 pound load.

The self-fooling happens when "Ha ha ha, I'm loaded with 4 pallets that you can't haul. Neener Neener," when the other guy a few minutes later gets a two skid load that nets him more per mile.

Why are there some who think that a driver has to haul more freight or weight to make money?.

It's a macho thing.

 

[Harinder Rakhra]

been working for a fleet owner in a promaster for about 3 months now and i'm starting to look into becoming an O/O, trying to decide weather to get a 3500 sprinter or one of the smaller 10-14k box trucks with floor space for 6 pallets.

The difference being, with the way i plan to set up the sleeper, being able to carry 2 pallets vs 4 pallets (+1 to both with bed folded up) and a few thousand more lbs of weight capacity.

So what im wondering from any that has expeirence with the small boxes approximately what percent of the loads you get are ones that couldnt be done with a sprinter?

been working for a fleet owner in a promaster for about 3 months now and i'm starting to look into becoming an O/O, trying to decide weather to get a 3500 sprinter or one of the smaller 10-14k box trucks with floor space for 6 pallets.

The difference being, with the way i plan to set up the sleeper, being able to carry 2 pallets vs 4 pallets (+1 to both with bed folded up) and a few thousand more lbs of weight capacity.

So what im wondering from any that has expeirence with the small boxes approximately what percent of the loads you get are ones that couldnt be done with a sprinter?

I am new into cargo van business. Looking for some help regarding insurance. I am going to buy a ram promaster 3500 long. Which company should I contact for insurance? What kind of coverage is typically required and usually how much do we pay for insurance each month? I'LL appreciate any kind of information I can get.

 

[xiggi]

You may be able to insure through a carrier depending on who you sign with and save a substantial amount. Self insured you could be looking at 400.00 to a grand a month.

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[BigStickJr]

I am going to buy a ram promaster 3500 long.

How do you make the above statement prior to having the answers to his following questions ?

Which company should I contact for insurance? What kind of coverage is typically required and usually how much do we pay for insurance each month ?

 

[Perioodic]

I am going to buy a ram promaster 3500 long.

How do you make the above statement prior to having the answers to his following questions ?

Which company should I contact for insurance? What kind of coverage is typically required and usually how much do we pay for insurance each month ?

Progressive, 1 million liability 100,000 cargo. Anywhere between 400-1200 a month. Some companies like load1, bolt express, and a few more offer it through the company (third party but only for the company).


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[DollarSign]

I am going to buy a ram promaster 3500 long.

How do you make the above statement prior to having the answers to his following questions ?

Which company should I contact for insurance? What kind of coverage is typically required and usually how much do we pay for insurance each month ?

If your planning to go out on your own and have your own authority, then try CIS Ins. They advertise on EO and can answer your questions. Most get $1 million dollar or more coverage. That's what's required by most shippers/consignee.

Xiggi was telling you that it might and most likely be better to go with a carrier. They get Ins cheaper. And it could be more than $1000 a month I've heard. Also depends on your driving record.

 

[T270_Dreamin]

Wait for 2018 Sprinter to arrive summer of 2017 and order it with suspension seats and air ride. Just heard from the fedx local guys the transits and promasters are having issues. A 04-06 Sprinter is also a good year. I just put 12k on mine in the the last two months.