Bad Companies

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
You delivering organs?

You actually trained for this?

Yup

Most of the organs were not live organs. They were headed to labs. My first day I delivered a brain to a lab....They'd just put them in Tupperware containers and label them biohazard....

Last week i delivered a placenta....I got ill after i saw that one...

I am Biohazard certified...
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
Haha!

Hey Guys, Thought I'd post that this company bounced the paycheck the day I quit...........

They are not too bright, Now I am guaranteed more then what I earned. I am now going to get what i earned in the bounced check plus restitution and fees.

Which is going to come pretty close to what I earned in that check they refused to send me......
 

TheRebel

Seasoned Expediter
Hey guys...

My first paycheck was 211 dollars. i drove 3500 miles and put 100 dollars in for gas. Well i figured since it was my first paycheck I would see how my second paycheck was. Today I get it. Its 428 dollars for two weeks!!!!!!!!!

Courier companies suck... I've been myself in such a situation when I drove for one single day for a courier outta Houston. I drove whole day, from 6 am til 8 pm, had like 6 runs that day, and knowing what kind of money I made as an expediter, at the end of the day I asked the guy how much money I made that day. He checked my paperwork, then he told me "you did pretty good for your first day!", then I insisted to know exactly what it means that "pretty good", and he gave the answer: $120. And I drove over 300 miles, my vehicle, my gas, my time. I simply gave 'em back their stinking radio and I left. Two weeks later I got my paycheck for $100... $20 was a deduction for that two-way radio...
 

Jefferson3000

Expert Expediter
A lot of these "medical courier" type companies hire small cars and such at low percentages like 40-45% Why? Because they can. Supply and demand. No new investment by the driver. When the economy first started slowing around the fall of 2007, I was getting calls almost every day by someone with a compact, sedan, or pickup truck looking for a job. Every van courier around called as well. Most already had a gig, but two bad weeks and they were jumping ship.
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
So, I decided to do a public records search on the owner of this company. Wow Did I find A LOT!!

1997 Sued by an individual
2004 Sued by the IRS Lien on property
2005 Sued by the IRS Lien on Property
2006 Sued by the IRS Lien on property
2007 You guessed it... IRS Lien on Property

I noticed the IRS sued the Business and not him in 06 and 07. Does that mean he changed the business type?
 

DannyD

Veteran Expediter
I can feel your pain. I've been w/ a courier company & while not as bad as yours, the 2 MO's were similar.

W/ the company I was w/, I had a route. The route started out w/ 15 stops. Then 16, then 17, w/ no extra pay. Their logic was it was only an extra 5 minutes. Mine was that 5 minutes means 10 total minutes (5 each way) which is an extra hour a week, or 52 extra hours a year.

I was also on call. Which in itself isn't so bad. We're on call for this industry too. What blew chunks about it was I was on call for a run that paid $14 for an 80 mile round trip. This was back when fuel was $4/gallon. So that left $2 profit.

They were based on a lot of low paying runs when ya combine em together ya can do ok. At nite though, it was only going to be 1 run.

Another thing that slayed me was this guy got $200 for going from Flint to Columbus using a company van. One day I subbed for him, but used my own van. I got paid $200 also. My bad for not asking the rate. I just assumed (I know, I know) that it would pay more since I was using my own vehicle.

Another thing that got me, even though I wasn't the one that got boned on this.. was this guy bought one of those VW's that get like 47 miles to the gallon or something. My route was 204 miles or so. His was like 280. Yet he only got like $2 more than I did. When he griped to em, they said "yea, but your car gets 47 miles to the gallon, Danny's only gets 30." It's like they must have thought he bought a new car for them to save $$ & not him.

I'm not sure if I left or got fired. Basically when I realized what was happening in that they kept adding stops I said no. They said they'd find someone else to do it then.

Like you, I should have seen the signs. There were 6 routes & in less than a year I was the 17th person to quit/get fired. That's almost 3 people per route in less than a year.

Too bad. For awhile I really liked that job. It was perfect in that it was local, got to use my car mostly & my van a bit too. When I first got it I may have even come on here & praised it. Strange how things can turn.
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
I can feel your pain. I've been w/ a courier company & while not as bad as yours, the 2 MO's were similar.

W/ the company I was w/, I had a route. The route started out w/ 15 stops. Then 16, then 17, w/ no extra pay. Their logic was it was only an extra 5 minutes. Mine was that 5 minutes means 10 total minutes (5 each way) which is an extra hour a week, or 52 extra hours a year.

I was also on call. Which in itself isn't so bad. We're on call for this industry too. What blew chunks about it was I was on call for a run that paid $14 for an 80 mile round trip. This was back when fuel was $4/gallon. So that left $2 profit.

They were based on a lot of low paying runs when ya combine em together ya can do ok. At nite though, it was only going to be 1 run.

Another thing that slayed me was this guy got $200 for going from Flint to Columbus using a company van. One day I subbed for him, but used my own van. I got paid $200 also. My bad for not asking the rate. I just assumed (I know, I know) that it would pay more since I was using my own vehicle.

Another thing that got me, even though I wasn't the one that got boned on this.. was this guy bought one of those VW's that get like 47 miles to the gallon or something. My route was 204 miles or so. His was like 280. Yet he only got like $2 more than I did. When he griped to em, they said "yea, but your car gets 47 miles to the gallon, Danny's only gets 30." It's like they must have thought he bought a new car for them to save $$ & not him.

I'm not sure if I left or got fired. Basically when I realized what was happening in that they kept adding stops I said no. They said they'd find someone else to do it then.

Like you, I should have seen the signs. There were 6 routes & in less than a year I was the 17th person to quit/get fired. That's almost 3 people per route in less than a year.

Too bad. For awhile I really liked that job. It was perfect in that it was local, got to use my car mostly & my van a bit too. When I first got it I may have even come on here & praised it. Strange how things can turn.

My last week working for them was the when I was 100% sure they were screwing me over. Don't know if anybody is familiar with the Dallas Ft Worth area on this board. From the South side of Fort Worth to the North side of McKinney its about 80 or so miles. I got a run to go from Grapevine to McKinney. Which I had no issues with. It was about 40 or so miles. I get to McKinney and drop my run off. About an hour later Dispatch tells me to deadhead back to Grapevine 40 miles. I get to Grapevine. I pick up the run. it pays 5 dollars. He then tells me to go back to McKinney to pick up a good paying run at the same Hospital I dropped off at an hour prior. At that point I was ****ed. Cause I just went 80 miles and got paid 5 dollars for that run picked up...

After I picked up that new run in McKinney. dispatch calls me. He says "Dude, I just want you to know I aint gonna screw you around. You're my best courier out here." I ask him. How much did that first run pay (i didn't know at the time) He says he doesn't know how much runs pay. But, He said he'll get me a good paying run.......Huh? Really? lol ..

So the following night. Again, I get sent 45 miles south of Fort Worth to pick up a hospital blood run. (Keep in mind that a blood run is a STAT run) He Then sends me 2 runs at that prescription place that pays me 5 dollars a run. It was about 60 miles from where I was. So, After about 10 minutes of me being intensely ****ed off. I call them on the phone. I said straight up. Look, How much do these runs pay because I've got a problem deadheading 60 miles....The dispatcher went off on me and started to scream and yell saying I don't wanna make money. He said FINE! IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT TURN IN YOUR F$@%ING RADIO AND GET OUT OF HERE....

I didn't argue with him. He clearly wasn't worth my breath.....Keep in mind that was the first time I questioned a run. I'm not one to deny runs. First thing that came to my mind was. ****, He's done that before....lol...

I can credit that company for handing in my keys and never driving freight again...I know all companies are not like that...I love being on the road. But at this point with Gas going through the roof. I simply don't have the patience, energy or money to deal with trying to find that good company.....

I know now, doing Brokering and dispatching out of my house. I won't be that guy screwing guys on the road. If companies can't get freight from A to B on time with good customer service. Why are they in this business?
 

BillChaffey

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Navy
I would expect there are as many crooked drivers, if not more. As there are crooked Companies.:rolleyes:
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
Don't you find the rate of pay for the runs before you take them????

I asked. but all I got was swear words and telling me to hand my equipment in..........

Basically they refused, Knowing they were paying me **** rates...
 

purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
I asked. but all I got was swear words and telling me to hand my equipment in..........

Basically they refused, Knowing they were paying me **** rates...

Did the swearing come while you were standing in front of them or over the telephone?
God says to turn the other cheek. I turn the other cheek while I'm winding up for a pass.:eek:
 

LisaLouHoo

Expert Expediter
I asked. but all I got was swear words and telling me to hand my equipment in..........

I cannot speak for others, but I have been witness to carriers cussing out my boyfriend when a run goes wrong on behalf of the shipper OR the carriers inability to keep their loads straight; basically telling my boyfriend to "fix it or else". It got fixed alright, because my boyfriend's priority is successful delivery of the freight; afterwards, my boyfriend then parted ways with the carriers. The beauty of being O/O with his own authority.
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
I read the posts. If they knew ahead of time then they shouldn't be complaining about how much they got paid. It's called negotiating. That's not self explanatory.

That's the problem. There was no negotiating with these people. I asked how much i was making on the run. They refused to tell me and instead told me to quit. I ask for a print out of my runs. They refuse..........

on another note

I went to the D.A today. Turns out the owners wife signed the check. So, she is going to be the one getting charges for writing a bad check....

The owner still refuses to talk to me and ignores my inquires. This douche bag is completely throwing his wife under the bus on this...

I asked the D.A if we can still go after him and they said no...Which kinda disappoints me....
 

purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
That's the problem. There was no negotiating with these people. I asked how much i was making on the run. They refused to tell me and instead told me to quit. I ask for a print out of my runs. They refuse..........

on another note

I went to the D.A today. Turns out the owners wife signed the check. So, she is going to be the one getting charges for writing a bad check....

The owner still refuses to talk to me and ignores my inquires. This douche bag is completely throwing his wife under the bus on this...

I asked the D.A if we can still go after him and they said no...Which kinda disappoints me....


That's the problem now a day's with DA's, there is so much crime the little stuff like this gets pushed out of the way.
I guess that was a good lesson to learn, if they won't tell you information like that and get huffy about it then it's time to go right then and there. Hopefully your away from those people and now dealing with more honest people.:cool:
Something I learned about 40+ years ago shortly after starting in the trucking industry is you can gauge the company by the way they conduct themselves, both physically and Verbally. If the general office cannot conduct themselves professionally with drivers and the general public I won't associate myself with them. It's to easy now with all the electronics in the industry to see who's lying to you and who's not. I still don't know why dispatchers lie to drivers because it always come's back to them.:cool:
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
OK here we goooooo............

DID you get a lawyer and have the lawyer contact the owner and the authorities?

IF NOT then at least talk to a legal professional who can direct you to your next step.

As for the owner's wife signing the check, lets just say it may have worked out to both their advantages.
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
OK here we goooooo............

DID you get a lawyer and have the lawyer contact the owner and the authorities?

IF NOT then at least talk to a legal professional who can direct you to your next step.

As for the owner's wife signing the check, lets just say it may have worked out to both their advantages.

Don't need a Lawyer. The D.A is getting my money back plus 100% of the amount of the check in restitution.

The D.A is still going forward with the case. Just not against the owner. The owner isn't technically liable because he didn't sign the check. So Therefore they are going after and charging his wife with writing bad checks....

They've got 10 days from Friday to send me my money. Or the D.A will press charges...So this will be done pretty quickly...

Since I turned it over to the D.A its a state issue now. The Amount of the check puts it into a Felony classification....So the state will go forward with charging her...

She is also a British national...So more then likely she'll get sentenced then deported.......
 
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