Baby butchers admitting prenatal infantacide kills a baby

layoutshooter · Apr 12, 2013

OntarioVanMan said:
What is really hypocritical is a bunch of men trying to make decisions for women...

Depends on which men they are. What if that man is the FATHER in question. How come he would have no say over life of his offspring?

OntarioVanMan · Apr 12, 2013

Am speaking of all you guys in here....

Turtle · Apr 12, 2013

layoutshooter said:
Depends on which men they are. What if that man is the FATHER in question. How come he would have no say over life of his offspring?

Uhm, "which men THEY are" and "THAT man is THE father" are two very different contexts. One is plural and general, the other is singular and specific. One man having a say about his offspring is very, very different from a group of men wanting to have a say about offspring they have absolutely nothing to do with.

layoutshooter · Apr 12, 2013

Turtle said:
Uhm, "which men THEY are" and "THAT man is THE father" are two very different contexts. One is plural and general, the other is singular and specific. One man having a say about his offspring is very, very different from a group of men wanting to have a say about offspring they have absolutely nothing to do with.

What about the father's of minor girls? Have their parental rights been taken from them by the courts?

What about the father of an soon to be baby? Any rights? Don't think so.

There are also just as many women who are pro-life as men. What about a group of women saying what these men are saying?

It is not as simple as snip snip.

OntarioVanMan · Apr 12, 2013

A guy should keep his pecker in his pants and take some responsibility for birth control

layoutshooter · Apr 12, 2013

OntarioVanMan said:
Am speaking of all you guys in here....

No, you don't speak for all us guys in here. You may THINK you do, but you don't.

OntarioVanMan · Apr 12, 2013

That's not what I meant .... I was pointing at old farts like you. Leo and monger

layoutshooter · Apr 12, 2013

OntarioVanMan said:
That's not what I meant .... I was pointing at old farts like you. Leo and monger

Don't put words in my mouth bubba! While I am opposed to abortion I have always said that it is NOT a federal issue, but a state issue, and the People of that state can decide.

I am off to sleep. You can be a pain tomorrow. Been up for 22 hours, VERY tired.

Go pet a cow.

OntarioVanMan · Apr 12, 2013

Old farts need their sleep....

when the good Lord lets men bear the babies they can have even more say.....

LDB · Apr 12, 2013

I'm not making decisions for women, I'm speaking on behalf of innocents who are unable to speak for themselves and subject to murder before they achieve that ability.

Humble2drive · Apr 12, 2013

LDB said:
Total hypocrisy from a total moron but that's to be expected from leftist idiots like Ms. Elder.

Oh, I don't know about that. Full scholarship at 15 years of age and 3 college degrees compared to truck driving school makes it questionable who should be calling whom a moron and an idiot.
What exactly are your credentials in this debate? Please don't say life experience.

Elders was born in poor, rural Arkansas. She and her seven siblings worked in cotton fields with their sharecropper parents. When she was 15, Elders won a scholarship to Philander Smith College, an all-black school in Little Rock. She earned a bachelor's degree in 1952 and entered the army, where she studied physical therapy. She enrolled in the University of Arkansas Medical School (UAMS) and received a M.D. in 1960, one of three minority students to do so. She married Oliver Elders that year. She served as chief pediatric resident at the University of Arkansas Medical Center. She continued her education, receiving an M.S. in biochemistry from UAMS in 1967. Elders became an expert in pediatric diabetes and accepted a post on the UAMS faculty in 1971.

Ragman · Apr 12, 2013

LDB said:
I'm not making decisions for women, I'm speaking on behalf of innocents who are unable to speak for themselves and subject to murder before they achieve that ability.

Sure would be nice to see the same passion for the thousands of children killed every week in our cities.

LDB · Apr 12, 2013

Thousands every week? That's more of a

than a

LDB · Apr 12, 2013

One degree worth of liberal academicians and eggheads was sufficient, thank you. Along with that I do of course have life experiences or at least partial life experiences as I don't believe I've finished yet.

Tennesseahawk · Apr 13, 2013

Ragman said:

No, Ms Elders... that's CHIRLINS. You've said so yourself.

Tennesseahawk · Apr 13, 2013

OntarioVanMan said:
Am speaking of all you guys in here....

We have 545 people, hellbent on making decisions for us. People in here don't have that power.

OntarioVanMan · Apr 13, 2013

Tennesseahawk said:
We have 545 people, hellbent on making decisions for us. People in here don't have that power.

No... Just flap their gums over something they have no investment in.... Over and over and over and over....lol

Turtle · Apr 13, 2013

Humble2drive said:
Oh, I don't know about that. Full scholarship at 15 years of age and 3 college degrees compared to truck driving school makes it questionable who should be calling whom a moron and an idiot.
What exactly are your credentials in this debate? Please don't say life experience.

Uh, oh. That's a setup for an ad hominem logical fallacy waiting to happen. Somebody with three degrees should know that. <snort>

Turtle · Apr 13, 2013

layoutshooter said:
What about the father's of minor girls? Have their parental rights been taken from them by the courts?

By the courts and Child Protective Services, which is legalized busy-bodying, yes.

What about the father of an soon to be baby? Any rights? Don't think so.

Of course he has rights. Significant rights, in fact.

There are also just as many women who are pro-life as men. What about a group of women saying what these men are saying?

The same thing applies - they should mind their own business, unless they're the one who is pregnant, or the one who got her pregnant. The term "pro-life" should not be synonymous with "pro you'll do as I say."

It is not as simple as snip snip.

It never is.

pjjjjj · Apr 13, 2013

Some members may benefit from brushing up on their reading skills. OVM was speaking OF 'all you guys in here', not FOR 'all you guys in here'

Tennesseahawk

Originally Posted by OntarioVanMan

Am speaking of all you guys in here....