Asking for load/rate over qc before taking
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fortwayne
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Yep, just verify and that's what I did as a driver. But, when I became an owner I became a non-trusting arrogant fool, listening to blind-minded people who has no tie-in with my carrier.
Now, I am not blaming those people, heck maybe that's what they need to do with their carrier. I blame myself for listening th their whinning mouths.
Every carrier is different, every driver is different, every owner is different. But, we all need to make our own decisions and not allow the ill informed sway our own actions, which I allowed to happen.
WOW, there is my one week of painful learning. Now, back to doing it my way....ignore the whinners and the complainers and accept when you yourself made a goof.
I feel much better now.
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Now, I am not blaming those people, heck maybe that's what they need to do with their carrier. I blame myself for listening th their whinning mouths.
Every carrier is different, every driver is different, every owner is different. But, we all need to make our own decisions and not allow the ill informed sway our own actions, which I allowed to happen.
WOW, there is my one week of painful learning. Now, back to doing it my way....ignore the whinners and the complainers and accept when you yourself made a goof.
I feel much better now.
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RoadKing06
Expert Expediter
Normally we know what the rate is very shortly after moving the truck. There have been times we don't find out till after we have delivered. We have always known prior to next load.
Dispatch is so busy with aquiring loads that sometimes it takes longer to get the pay info. This did make me uncomfortable at first but like I said before there hasn't been a reason to be concerned in the end.
We have set a weekly goal for ourselves, that has been proven in our short time here that is doable. We only missed it once which is this week because we spent more time in the shop than on the road. But we still have today to bring the week out.
We get the rate on the qualcom. We get a phone call first asking if we will accept the load or not. When we get the phone call doesn't have time to discuss the rate because the customer is on the other line and the dispatcher needs a decision.
Drive less earn more, with this philosophy from the carrier there is no reason to worry what the rate is. Since you already know it is going to be good.
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Dispatch is so busy with aquiring loads that sometimes it takes longer to get the pay info. This did make me uncomfortable at first but like I said before there hasn't been a reason to be concerned in the end.
We have set a weekly goal for ourselves, that has been proven in our short time here that is doable. We only missed it once which is this week because we spent more time in the shop than on the road. But we still have today to bring the week out.
We get the rate on the qualcom. We get a phone call first asking if we will accept the load or not. When we get the phone call doesn't have time to discuss the rate because the customer is on the other line and the dispatcher needs a decision.
Drive less earn more, with this philosophy from the carrier there is no reason to worry what the rate is. Since you already know it is going to be good.
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chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
I have never had Load 1 not send me a pay screen until after the load was delivered, not saying could or wouldn't happen, but as Kenny said when doing Canadian splits, we do take the run based on the trust we have in our dispatch to pay us as we know they will...that pay screen will show up while in route to the PU for the most part and it has never been an issue.
They always call with the load offer and now once they tell me where it is going and from where, I simply tell them to send it over....I have no fear of them low balling me...Johns attitude carrys to Mike Bako and hs dispatch crew...they know that we need to make a profit to continue running and they have never messed with what we get paid....
One funny thing I have seen with Load 1 dispatch...their are a few Dispatchers that have come over from my previous carrier. one was there before I came and the other shortly after...the way they do business now it totally different then how they did before and they know it and both are happier for it...we done have to "make deals", or be told "thats all we have in it'....they don't have to low ball us to get us to take the load for as low a price as they can get us to....it just doesn't happen....
now, it takes time for newbies t devolop that trust as it also takes dispatch time to learn figure out how a driver runs also..but once both are comfortable with each, everyone runs in a confort zone that make life out here alot easier...and enjoyable..
They always call with the load offer and now once they tell me where it is going and from where, I simply tell them to send it over....I have no fear of them low balling me...Johns attitude carrys to Mike Bako and hs dispatch crew...they know that we need to make a profit to continue running and they have never messed with what we get paid....
One funny thing I have seen with Load 1 dispatch...their are a few Dispatchers that have come over from my previous carrier. one was there before I came and the other shortly after...the way they do business now it totally different then how they did before and they know it and both are happier for it...we done have to "make deals", or be told "thats all we have in it'....they don't have to low ball us to get us to take the load for as low a price as they can get us to....it just doesn't happen....
now, it takes time for newbies t devolop that trust as it also takes dispatch time to learn figure out how a driver runs also..but once both are comfortable with each, everyone runs in a confort zone that make life out here alot easier...and enjoyable..
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Chef, I think newbies are the ones who trust first, then when or IF they get screwed, there is a distrust created.
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
I think that is true greg..and I may have used the wrong word there...newbies do trust and i did fall into that when I started with Bolt and quickly learned by may mistakes..But Load 1 isn't really taking real "Newbies" , those that have never been in the business...so by by newbies i meant those that were new to Load 1 but not new to the business...they come in with the normal reservations to dispatch based on their passed experiences and it takes some time to devolop that trust with dispatch as it does with dispatch and them...
But yes greg you are right, thos newbies coming into the indusrty for the 1st are the trusting bunch untl the get burnt...
But yes greg you are right, thos newbies coming into the indusrty for the 1st are the trusting bunch untl the get burnt...
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
To explain why I think some Load 1 contractors can trust dispatch to pay them as the contract sayes in all situations,i'll give a personal example...now we all have had great paying short runs that made us alot of money...but we also have had that GOOD paying mini (and I am using a CV , but any of you can relate) You get called with a shorty less then 25 miles and the company says "hey i'll pay you $100 buck to run this local shorty for me..and you are happy to take it and feel good about the $100 buck..not knowing that the company knocked down a full boat rate...
My example was a total of 9 miles from my dh to the pu to the delivery...Id have run that for the normal $100 and felt great...Dispatch gave the shipper a number and they took it...I got my full normal % of what the shipper paid and my pay for tht load was 4 and 1/2 times that $100 i would have been happy with....
That is not an isolated deal...you can talk to load 1 drivers and i know you will hear the same kind of thing because I have talked to more then a few and they have the same kind of stories....This company does what they say they will do and they work on the basis tat without the drivers, they are out of business...so they treat us good and in return they don't need to have a unit on every corner in the country...they retain those that they lease with, treat them right and don't add units just to add them, it is a controlled add of units, as they grow, they add. They work to keep us busy and John HATES units sitting.....
Most people don't realize that the Expediting side of Load 1 i not all that old and they are still learning and growing..i feel very fortunate to be here at what I feel is the ground floor and I have no doubt that Load 1 is the last carrier i will lease to...I have no plans or ideas of moving on....
My example was a total of 9 miles from my dh to the pu to the delivery...Id have run that for the normal $100 and felt great...Dispatch gave the shipper a number and they took it...I got my full normal % of what the shipper paid and my pay for tht load was 4 and 1/2 times that $100 i would have been happy with....
That is not an isolated deal...you can talk to load 1 drivers and i know you will hear the same kind of thing because I have talked to more then a few and they have the same kind of stories....This company does what they say they will do and they work on the basis tat without the drivers, they are out of business...so they treat us good and in return they don't need to have a unit on every corner in the country...they retain those that they lease with, treat them right and don't add units just to add them, it is a controlled add of units, as they grow, they add. They work to keep us busy and John HATES units sitting.....
Most people don't realize that the Expediting side of Load 1 i not all that old and they are still learning and growing..i feel very fortunate to be here at what I feel is the ground floor and I have no doubt that Load 1 is the last carrier i will lease to...I have no plans or ideas of moving on....
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
I can totally understand that...i was the same way for 2.5 yrs, and even for a few months here at Load 1...but things change..
DannyD
Veteran Expediter
Totally agree w/ Greg here. I think this is in line w/ that other thread, too. There's a few companies that ya can trust & just take the run w/out worrying about your pay. There's a few where ya better know what you're making before ya decide to take it.
A lot of this industry is trial & error for newbies. I think we've all taken that run & then wished we hadn't. W/ some companies there's less of a learning curve because there aren't as many mistakes ya can make w/ em.
A lot of this industry is trial & error for newbies. I think we've all taken that run & then wished we hadn't. W/ some companies there's less of a learning curve because there aren't as many mistakes ya can make w/ em.
nightcreacher
Veteran Expediter
At one time or another I have been with 5 different companies.Roberts Express,(now FED EX Custom Critical)PantherII,Con-Way Now,Try HOURS,AND TRI STATE.NOt one of these companies did I ever have to ask what my pay was.With Roberts before the qualcoms we were given the information over the phone.Since the Qualcoms,all the info is there when the run offer comes to my attention.THe only time I have ever had to send a message about pay,may be when a load was changed from a D load to a tractor,at pick up,or detention time came into play.As businessman you can not operate unless you know exactly the money you have to deal with.What if you thought you were getting a dollar a mile in your van,and it turned out to be 70 cents.Would you have still done the load.It would be like playing Texas Holdem,and not looking at your hold cards.Pure luck if you win.
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
I can promise you, Load 1 is not going to send me a load that pays anything close to $.70 a mile without asking me if i want it..and to this day and yea it has only been 6 months, i have not even seen anythig that would be close $.85 a mile.....I have had them call me and see if i would take a run before they have bid on it as long as they could get it at a decent rate...and then have them call me back and say they couldn't get a good enough rate so they passed on it.....
Its kind of like jimlookup said a few post above...you have to trust and have the fath that they will do the right thing...kind of like with Jesus....so far its working fine....but i really do understand that it is a foreign way of doing business....i really do....as was said at the top of this post by DieselDiva, too but it isn't the norm....
Its kind of like jimlookup said a few post above...you have to trust and have the fath that they will do the right thing...kind of like with Jesus....so far its working fine....but i really do understand that it is a foreign way of doing business....i really do....as was said at the top of this post by DieselDiva, too but it isn't the norm....
How can anyone in any size truck take a load without knowing what the pay is?? I base my pay at where the load is going, how much time is it going to take, DH to pk, tolls, lumper fees, dims and weight, and where I have to go after I drop, if I decide to DH. You don't (or shouldn't) take a load to Concordia KS. for the same rate you take one to Chicago. Taking a load for the same rate everywhere makes no sense unless you only run a dedicated area.
I have no problem people trusting there carrier it is just odd that people would roll on loads without figuring there DH and there relocation fee. Example you are offered a load from Birmingham, AL. and you are 74 miles out going to Crosby, ND. You can't just assume that your carrier is going to give you a great rate for this. Way to easy to be taken advantage of. A load going to a place like Crosby, ND. needs to pay a van atleast 1.35 (contractor rate) so you can DH back to Bismark to wait for another load. Just my .02..
Stay safe a profitable at all times.
I have no problem people trusting there carrier it is just odd that people would roll on loads without figuring there DH and there relocation fee. Example you are offered a load from Birmingham, AL. and you are 74 miles out going to Crosby, ND. You can't just assume that your carrier is going to give you a great rate for this. Way to easy to be taken advantage of. A load going to a place like Crosby, ND. needs to pay a van atleast 1.35 (contractor rate) so you can DH back to Bismark to wait for another load. Just my .02..
Stay safe a profitable at all times.
golfournut
Veteran Expediter
I don't worry about the pay anymore either. Dispatch will take care if us. I have gotten loads that paid 78%, 85% and one at 95%. They will take a hit for us. On the rare occasion where a load comes in at the % rate and turns out to be on the low side of what you think it should be, simply call and they adjust it. When I first started, as mentioned by a few others, I was used to getting screwed so I questioned everything. Now that I have a driver in the truck I got scared on the first load he took. Only paid 42% of the load, but FSC was way up there to make up for the DH. In the end first week 4 loads back to back almost 2k to the truck. I'm happy, driver is happy and Load One is happy. Oh the last load paid $1.20 per mile + FSC. About 3 miles of DH.
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Your best bet, hire a vet! Please.
We get .50 a mile to DH...also $50. a day for 2 days max while DHing....end location is not an issue
I would take a load to Concordia, KS for the same rate as one to Chicago, especially if the one to Concordia was picking up in Williston, ND which I've had happen. I also had a load from Salt Lake City to Concordia. Jumped on that one, too. Every time I've delivered to Concordia I've gotten loaded out of Belleville or Salina, so Concordia's not so bad. Depends on the carrier more than anything, probably. It's Houston, Texas that I can't get loaded out of. It's weird.
I understand the .50 DH to pk (I assume). How does the $50.00 a day for 2 days work?? I have yet to here that one. Sounds like Load 1 is a good place to lease a van on to.
Turtle where you sitting in Williston when offered?? I have dropped there a few times (usually load out of Fargo). Just curios, when I drop there I call me Canada contacts and if they have nothing out of SK. or MB. I usually DH to Bismark. But as I stated I always factor in my relocation fee when bidding. Freight out of Williston makes sense since it is the biggest town in that area.
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
The $.50 a mile DH is on any relocation that the company ask you to do..you would not believe the amounts I have been paid to move...I didn't...As for the $50 to sit and wait...The clock starts when you drop..$50 for up to 48 hours..if you haven't been loaded in that tme, they will then pay the $.50 per mile to DH you....
And yes it would be a great place to put a CV on with...but they are no longer taking CV's..only long and tall sprinter type units. I know a guy that ha a E-350 extended diesel that wanted on 2 weeks ago...he was told it would be a while before they would put anymore CV's on....so he went out and bought a 2010 Chevy 12 ft unicel SRW 9900 lb gvw cube...just so he could get on...he will be in orientation the 24th along with my new driver....
And yes it would be a great place to put a CV on with...but they are no longer taking CV's..only long and tall sprinter type units. I know a guy that ha a E-350 extended diesel that wanted on 2 weeks ago...he was told it would be a while before they would put anymore CV's on....so he went out and bought a 2010 Chevy 12 ft unicel SRW 9900 lb gvw cube...just so he could get on...he will be in orientation the 24th along with my new driver....