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layoutshooter

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I agree, I am a wheel gun fan. Model 19 S&W. The 357 hollow points have a one shot stopping coefficient of 97. This is what all others are compared to. Always keep a 12 gauge riot gun by the bed. The 12 banger can put fear in the hearts of bad people.

J.C. Higgins, Model 20 in 12ga. 18 1/2" barrel. 5 shots. Feed it tungsten home defense rounds.
 

Dreamer

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Been tryin to warn the world! They're coming! LOL.


Dale
 

Dreamer

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I agree, I am a wheel gun fan. Model 19 S&W. The 357 hollow points have a one shot stopping coefficient of 97. This is what all others are compared to. Always keep a 12 gauge riot gun by the bed. The 12 banger can put fear in the hearts of bad people.


LOL.. yeah, just the sound of a 12 gauge pump racking a shell would be enough to stop most invaders.


Dale
 

Dreamer

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J.C. Higgins, Model 20 in 12ga. 18 1/2" barrel. 5 shots. Feed it tungsten home defense rounds.

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Serious Ammo! The price I've seen on that is like $3 a shell. Granted, you won't need to fire many LOL.. but I find cost like that prohibitive in testing. Not gonna spend much range time at that price ;)


On a side note isn't it funny how we've turned a joke about politically correct response to violence into a gun comparison? :rolleyes:

Dale
 

aristotle

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we've actually proven smartest and best informed. :D

Hope to dodge a bullet on this one... would the "smartest and best informed" use the adjective PROVEN as a verb? Is a gun fetish the prerequisite for inclusion in this manly brotherhood of bravado? Which is the greater force for good, the correct use of language or guns? Is there an inverse relationship between education and reliance upon guns to solve problems? Is good government possible? Is the ability to reason losing relevancy?
 

layoutshooter

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Gun fetish? :confused: People planning not to be a victim are smart. Bad things happen to good people. Homes get broken into. People robbed. No government can provide even close to 100% protection. It is up to the individual to defend one's self, family and property.


Guns do not solve the problem of break in's or rapes. They can help to protect one from becoming a victim.
 

LDB

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Retired Expediter
Then again it may have been the Kimber polymer from a few years back that had a 13+1 capacity.
 

purgoose10

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LOL.. Leave it to you! I didn't even catch that :rolleyes: and if we wanna be that specific, a Kimber .45 only holds 7+1 in the chamber :) but I think we get the point!


I'll stick with my S&W 9mm... 16+1 ;)


Dale

The 45 has less bullets but a lot more punch and a bigger hole.

I'm a Southern Republican, I'll go with the 7 and 1 and tight grouping.;)
 

purgoose10

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Hope to dodge a bullet on this one... would the "smartest and best informed" use the adjective PROVEN as a verb? Is a gun fetish the prerequisite for inclusion in this manly brotherhood of bravado? Which is the greater force for good, the correct use of language or guns? Is there an inverse relationship between education and reliance upon guns to solve problems? Is good government possible? Is the ability to reason losing relevancy?

Say Whaaaaaaaat??:confused::D
 

Dreamer

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Hope to dodge a bullet on this one... would the "smartest and best informed" use the adjective PROVEN as a verb? Is a gun fetish the prerequisite for inclusion in this manly brotherhood of bravado? Which is the greater force for good, the correct use of language or guns? Is there an inverse relationship between education and reliance upon guns to solve problems? Is good government possible? Is the ability to reason losing relevancy?



We've (We have) proven IS the correct usage in this case.. as in we have proven to be.

I do not have a gun fetish. I live in an age where I wish violence did not exist, but I have friends who have been shot, and who have had to shoot people.. while minding their own business in small town America. A good friend of mine recently stopped a mugging and beatdown by multiple assailants, in an alley, during a busy festival, by drawing his weapon. Another friend had 2 punks try to rob him as he was making a late night bank drop for the pizza shop he managed... they ran when he drew his weapon.

Within the last few weeks in Columbus, multiple people have been robbed, raped, and assaulted... the chances of this happening to properly trained and armed people are much lower.

Language is great... but the crackheads in this town don't understand language... as for education, I graduated with a degree in Business with a Minor in accounting, some of the smartest people I know believe in being armed.

Obviously you've never been in a situation where a weapon was pulled on you. I have. Some things you can't talk your way out of... you better have a bigger stick, or bend over.

I hate violence, but I'm not naive enough to think that I can always talk my way out of it.




Thanks for proving the point of the joke tho......



Dale
 

Dreamer

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The 45 has less bullets but a lot more punch and a bigger hole.

I'm a Southern Republican, I'll go with the 7 and 1 and tight grouping.;)


Hornady Critical Defense 9mm has a nice punch ;)


Actually tho, I have been looking at the ATI 'Fatboy' Compact 45. It holds 13 rounds and is actually narrower than a fullsize 1911.




The problem with big guns is they can be inconvenient to conceal, and heavy to carry. Most I know are going to the small J-frame .38 or .357, or a small auto such as the Ruger LC9 for primary carry.



Dale
 

purgoose10

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Hornady Critical Defense has a nice punch ;)



Dale

A deputy told me a long time ago that he can walk into a bar room fight and yell and scream and no one will hear him. He started to walk in with a 12 pump, once inside he could wrack a round one time and the room just stops. Amazing how everyone knows that sound.:D
 

Dreamer

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A deputy told me a long time ago that he can walk into a bar room fight and yell and scream and no one will hear him. He started to walk in with a 12 pump, once inside he could wrack a round one time and the room just stops. Amazing how everyone knows that sound.:D


So true LOL. Bone chilling sound. Speaking of shotgun.. (kinda), a girl I know bought a .410 Judge as her CCW. Purse gun, but loaded with defense rounds?? Wow. I think it's six .22 caliber pellets per shell.

Dale
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
Proven is an adjective only.

"Proven to be" is corrupted mumbo jumbo.

"Proved to be" would be correct usage.

Example: Dale's mastery of the English language proved to be valuable.

Example: Dale's proven mastery of the English language was valuable.

More to the point, "proven" can be used interchangeably with the word "known" ... as in Mercedes is a car of proven quality. Sorry, "proven" is no more a verb than is fast, quick or easy. It's not an important distinction in everyday life, but to declare wrong is right, well, is wrong.

From one gun owner to another, happy shooting.
 

RLENT

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Obviously you've never been in a situation where a weapon was pulled on you. I have. Some things you can't talk your way out of ... you better have a bigger stick, or bend over.
So ...... I guess that "turn-the-other-cheek" thingie is just totally out of the question then eh ? :cool:
 

RLENT

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I'd like to see the research on that theory...:p
No research was done, beyond just ...... "because I said so" .... ;)

Please remember and obey the most Holy Proverb:

"Whoa un to all ye that fail to prostrate yourselves before the Almighty Burning Bush that issueth forth from the great State of Tejas ...."
 

Dreamer

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So ...... I guess that "turn-the-other-cheek" thingie is just totally out of the question then eh ? :cool:


LOL.. it depends on the situation.. I have turned the other cheek.. but some people just wanna smack that cheek too ;)


In non life threatening situations.. sure.. in life threatening, my family or mine.. well...there is a LOT of self control and judging the situation involved.


Dale
 
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