Are you being macromanaged?

[LDB]

I guess as a moderator and a Fedex contractor I'm implied however I have no clue who anyone drives for if it's not listed in their signature line and I could care less. My comments are not based on Fedex or Panther or Express-1 or Landstar or TST (the companies I have experience with either driving or as fleet owner) or any other company's policies. My comments are based solely on common sense and knowledge of research done on sleep deprivation and driving.

Personally, I am amazing. I am exceptional. I am incredible. I am also not truly conceited enough to believe all those things or to believe I am somehow exempt from the pitfalls of stress, sleep deprivation and all the other things that make driving 1xxx miles straight through with no more than maybe a single 20 minute power nap an unsafe adventure. I did 942 miles total once. That was the longest and will remain the longest without significant nap time built in. It was too far. It was unsafe. I should have known better then and I do know better now. Mega-mileage just isn't safe no matter what one wants to tell themselves.

 

[RLENT]

My comments are based solely on common sense and knowledge of research done on sleep deprivation and driving.

Personally, I am amazing. I am exceptional. I am incredible. I am also not truly conceited enough to believe all those things ....

Perhaps not .... but being conceited enough to believe that you (or others who think and believe pretty much exactly like you, or at least don't disagree too much) have the one and only lock on common sense .......

Well, now ...... that might be another matter altogether .....

 

[OntarioVanMan]

It amazes me those who preach less government in our lives, in the soapbox actually support van regulation...now that is quirky..

 

[RLENT]

It amazes me those who preach less government in our lives, in the soapbox actually support van regulation ... now that is quirky ..

Yeah, kinda weird ain't it ?

And then ya get loo-loo's like this line of thinking:

I'm watching a police video show on cable.

Uh-oh ..... the TV ..... again .....

It seems to me we could greatly increase the public safety by enacting a law that running from the police is a capital crime

and .....

as well as giving police the authority to do anything to stop a fleeing suspect.

Now, let's think about these two little premises just a bit .....

Give the police the power to do ANYTHING to stop someone who is (supposedly) fleeing .....

And make running (which is a non-violent act) from the police (even if they happen to be trying to kill ya) a CAPITAL CRIME .....

So in the first instance above, basically, someone ..... like say a kid who was out TP'ing someone's house (something my eldest did in his younger and more foolish days) ..... and who then ran from police ..... would forfeit his life ..... possibly even without the benefit of due process of law .....

Yeah, that's certainly in line with "having the punishment fit the crime" ......

And this is going to INCREASE public safety ?

.... I don't think so .....

The above certainly makes one wonder whether the individual who would post such things has ever heard of, and is familiar with, the concept of A POLICE STATE .....

Or assuming that they had (heard of), and were (familiar with), whether they actually kinda liked the idea .....

The most basic and fundamental laws in this country (Constitution, Bill of Rights) were largely put in place by the Founders to prevent the abuse of power by the government against it's citizens ..... (oh how far we have fallen .....)

That that is what they were primarily concerned about (largely to the exclusion of being immediately concerned about transgressions by individual citizens against one another) tells you something ....

I guess I missed the above bit of insanity back in 2007 when it was originally posted .... someone dredged it up here recently ..... can't really say that I'm surprised though ....

 

[Turtle]

Hhhmmm..... bringing something from outside the current thread, into the current thread, to make a point.... I'm just sayin'.

 

[RLENT]

Hhhmmm..... bringing something from outside the current thread, into the current thread, to make a point.... I'm just sayin'.

Yeah ... the thought crossed my mind just a bit before I hit that submit button ....

I was gonna post similar comments in that other thread that got dredged up .... but didn't wanna participate in breathing life into a thread that had long since died it's own natural death ... but had, like something out of "The Night of the Living Dead", come back to an unnatural life .... to terrorize the normal, human-type folks ...

Gimme three demerits ... and a whaaap across the knuckles with the ruler ...

 

[Turtle]

Gimme three demerits ... and a whaaap across the knuckles with the ruler ...

Be patient, you'll have to wait in line behind the guy you replied to up there.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Lets play a bit...

oh but we can make the police judges as well..they can determine the severity of the supposed crime...and would have a few options..but then again they'd be doing the judging...
so much for due process..

 

[LDB]

Let me clarify, I was referring to failure to stop a motor vehicle and running from the police in (usually) high speed chases. There would have to be specific parameters such as failing to stop within 2 miles of lights/siren, exceeding the posted speed limit prior to stopping, etc. so it would only effect the obviously criminal act of fleeing police. Doing anything to stop them primarily means putting the officer in charge at the time so they can do a PIT maneuver when/where they know it should be done without having to go through dispatch and layers of command for authorization. Oh, and I realize grasping at anything to personalize it is a high priority however my original post was a few years ago so again doesn't really fit other than making it personal. Finally, the point is not to have a police state, a system where everyone is under onerous controls. The point is to have reasonable laws, which we generally do, and have the consequences for violating them severe enough that only the bad elements will be subject to the consequences while the bulk of society conduct their lives basically unaware of the existence of the laws.

 

[blizzard2014]

Didn't a panther driver die not too long ago? Also, I was told some months back that a Tri-State driver was killed when he ran his van into the back of a semi truck; and they already regulate their drivers at 700 miles a day!!

Having regulations ain't gonna change squat. I could be up all day playing video games in the truck stop and be dispatched on a run that picks up at 18:00 and delivers straight through. According to Johnny Law i'm all safe and legal, when in actuality, I am just a disaster waiting to happen.

You can whine about vans not being regulated but the simple fact of the matter is that DOT ain't gonna regulate nothing. Look at the supposed Bolt driver who was killed. He only wrecled his own van and tore up some truckers DOT bumper. He did not kill a bunch of people on the highway. Cargo vans are not as big a threat to public safety as semi trucks are and the only reason why DOT would ever try and regulate a van would be for revenue purposes alone.

You guys are just jealous because your companies treat you like slaves. They tell you how many hours you can drive, when and where you have to take a break. They force you to sit in the middle of nasty cities on their boards just so you can be within 50 miles of a shipper. Your companies keep acceptance ratings and in service ratings in order to more control what loads you have to take and they make it impossible to turn down bad runs.

I have not turned down one run in the past three weeks. That is because I have not been offered any bad runs. Have I been offered 168 miles runs; yes! Have I turned such runs down; no! Why not? Because I do not have to deal with a glut of company vans when I empty out on a short load which means i'm usually loaded up within hours of deliverying my load. It is all in how you want to run your load. No company has the right to micromanage the way you drive or the way in which you choose to operate your business.With that being said, I will leave this issue alone.

 

[flattop40]

Lets play a bit...

oh but we can make the police judges as well..they can determine the severity of the supposed crime...and would have a few options..but then again they'd be doing the judging...
so much for due process..

Sounds like we are not too far from this: YouTube - I AM THE LAW!