greg334
Veteran Expediter
I would not agree. It seems they do have some 'high value' loads and special handling loads get handed off to "outside qualified carriers".
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I would not agree. It seems they do have some 'high value' loads and special handling loads get handed off to "outside qualified carriers".
Oh well, such is life. There is nothing I can do about it. I am, for the time being, stuck where I am. I will make the best of it. Such is life.
There are not many "good" options for TVAL trucks with TVAL payments. At least, not that I know of or know how to do. I know nothing beyond FDCC. I am a rookie for the most part.
Nobody ever claimed I knew what I was doing. I will muddle through. I am WELL aware that FDCC, or any company for that matter, does not give a rats patute about me. Besides, I have a "D" unit camper, not a C
nightcreacher
Veteran Expediter
in 2002 when I was asked to leave,i didnt have any idea what i was going to do with my white elephant wooden floor reefer,that weighed over 20000 lbs,What i did was sell it to another W/G contractor.
bubblehead
Veteran Expediter
I met one former Tval who now transports seafood. He had to modify his reefer box; aluminum floor, liner etc. He said the pay made for a quick ROI and he averages much better net income driving regional.
you can make those 2500.00 $ monthly pymts. without the fed or panther or any of the big carriers, i did. its not the carrier, its you who decides how much you have to have by how much debt you create for yourself.
as far as brand name goes, it can hurt and help. i just ordered a fridge for the truck. i got it from defender industries. they now use r&l carriers cause, as they put it. we used fedx and ups, neither could deliver on time and their damage loss was at 42% and they refused to honor loss claims. now understand, this is ground and not expedite. even though, it still has impact on the name.
on another note. the fridge, 1269.00 $ 167.00 $ to ship. 1436.00 to the door. this is the exact replacement dual voltage 7.0 cu. ft. norcold that came in the truck. this is the least expensive i found. even less than the norcold site. defenderindustries.com
as far as brand name goes, it can hurt and help. i just ordered a fridge for the truck. i got it from defender industries. they now use r&l carriers cause, as they put it. we used fedx and ups, neither could deliver on time and their damage loss was at 42% and they refused to honor loss claims. now understand, this is ground and not expedite. even though, it still has impact on the name.
on another note. the fridge, 1269.00 $ 167.00 $ to ship. 1436.00 to the door. this is the exact replacement dual voltage 7.0 cu. ft. norcold that came in the truck. this is the least expensive i found. even less than the norcold site. defenderindustries.com
When the company does not listen, people turn to other outlets. It provides an emotional and psychological release to get the gripes out of your system. It may not change anything for the better but it feels better at least to be listened to by expediter peers who understand what you mean.
It may change. Things were a certain way before they changed to this way. Things can change from this way to another way. So, yes, I think things may change. I don't know that they will but I do know they certainly could. The possibility exists.
It has been going on from the date the new dispatch system went into effect. I don't have the exact date but could look it up. There is a date specific point after which the issues began that I now gripe about. There are a number of issues. They are not all attributable to the new dispatch system. They did not all begin at once, but all began after the new dispatch system went into effect.
I'm not looking for things to go back to the way it used to be, and I am not looking for something magical to happen. The changes for the worse did not happen by magic. They happened because leadership decisions made by the people in charge were implemented. Leaders come and go. Leaders change their minds. Leaders (sometimes) understand that circumstances have changed and they must change with them.
It could very well be that what is happening with the contractor base is exactly what our carrier leaders want to happen. The present contractor circumstances may be exactly what they have planned and worked for all along. Because the leaders are tight-lipped about the company's goals and future, we have no way of knwing if these circumstances may continue or change, either for the better or worse. We simply do not know.
But as long as Diane and I can continue to safely make the money we now make, we will resent but put up with the stream of decisions that have undermined the quality of the contractor/carrier relationship we once enjoyed. It is not fun to work with FedEx Custom Critical like it used to be, but at least it still pays and it may one day be fun again. That's what keeps us hanging in.
Agreed. Diane and I don't want to put up with the "stuff" that we did not used to have to deal with. But in our CR-Unit case, the money is still there so we stay, hope for a better day, and actively investigate other opportunities.
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That depends on the expediter, does it not? National reach means a great deal to Diane and me. We got into expediting partly to see the country and we love the drives into all states as much as ever.
Yes, it very well could be, which is why Diane and I are actively investigating other options. We don't want to get caught flat-footed or unprepared.
If FedEx Custom Critcial was spun off as an independent company that would no longer be connected with FedEX, it might be one of the best things that happened since its inception as Roberts Express. There are are a lot of very smart people and very good contractors at FedEx Custom Critical and many of them are frustrated with new corporate polices that have been imposed in recent years.
An independent expediting carrier that was formerly known as FedEX Custom Critical could, in the right circumstances, attract a lot of executive, contractor and customer support, and kick some serious competitive butt.
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The history here on EO would indicate that the downward slide started when they cut and reformulated their FSC policy.
Just an observation of course.
I believe a lot of it is tied to the economy and lawsuits over the last couple of years. Brand name might be just wonderful, but not when it is tied to a asset based carrier and you aren't one of their assets.
It is "peaches and cream" IF the economy is steaming. When it isn't, they need the support of the non asset divisions to prop up revenue for us stockholders. In uncertain times, the Fed and many other businesses aren't about to invest in equipment and employees if they don't have to. Based on the cheap load offer posts and sitting, I would say that is what they are doing.
And of course, this is my opinion based on only observations.
Just an observation of course.
I believe a lot of it is tied to the economy and lawsuits over the last couple of years. Brand name might be just wonderful, but not when it is tied to a asset based carrier and you aren't one of their assets.
It is "peaches and cream" IF the economy is steaming. When it isn't, they need the support of the non asset divisions to prop up revenue for us stockholders. In uncertain times, the Fed and many other businesses aren't about to invest in equipment and employees if they don't have to. Based on the cheap load offer posts and sitting, I would say that is what they are doing.
And of course, this is my opinion based on only observations.
nightcreacher
Veteran Expediter
Dave
Not to defend FDCC but as far as the fsc,I can compare FDCC's original fsc, what they have now,and what I have now.The FSc that FDCC is based on all dispatched miles,in most cases isn't to far off from what it was originally.There is a difference but not alot.What I have now is a fsc on mileage pay for all my loaded miles,when I convert it to all my miles,loaded and empty,there are times when FDCC fsc is better,there are times its the same,and there are times my new fsc is better.In the past 4 months that I've been at Tri-State,my fsc really hasn't been that noticable a difference.What has been a difference is my over all pay.Doing better here at Tri-State,in fact much better
Not to defend FDCC but as far as the fsc,I can compare FDCC's original fsc, what they have now,and what I have now.The FSc that FDCC is based on all dispatched miles,in most cases isn't to far off from what it was originally.There is a difference but not alot.What I have now is a fsc on mileage pay for all my loaded miles,when I convert it to all my miles,loaded and empty,there are times when FDCC fsc is better,there are times its the same,and there are times my new fsc is better.In the past 4 months that I've been at Tri-State,my fsc really hasn't been that noticable a difference.What has been a difference is my over all pay.Doing better here at Tri-State,in fact much better
I would say you hit the nail right on the head Dave. Go back and read the old posts about the FSC program and see how many of them people are still at the Fed.
Well, lets try it another way as posted. If you decided at the time to opt out of that program, you were rewarded instead with 58 percent of the billed FSC rather than 100 percent.
Not much more to say or defend after that. Many left at that time if one recalls.
Not much more to say or defend after that. Many left at that time if one recalls.
moose
Veteran Expediter
Think you are right .
others Expedite carriers are not so far off .
there's only one CORRECT way to pay FSC .
pay it at a pre-agreed scale on ALL dispatch millage .
and pass on 100% to the person paying for the fuel .
it will also not be legal on DOD loads .
any other contract will not be on the contractor favor .
why on earth would someone lease on a truck to a carrier that pay a flat rate and a fluctuated FSC .
it's supposed to be the other way around ,guess hoe's getting the short side of the stick .
talk about warts .
others Expedite carriers are not so far off .
there's only one CORRECT way to pay FSC .
pay it at a pre-agreed scale on ALL dispatch millage .
and pass on 100% to the person paying for the fuel .
it will also not be legal on DOD loads .
any other contract will not be on the contractor favor .
why on earth would someone lease on a truck to a carrier that pay a flat rate and a fluctuated FSC .
it's supposed to be the other way around ,guess hoe's getting the short side of the stick .
talk about warts .
Looking back on the 20+ years spent with Roberts/FDCC I am struck with how much things have not changed. Those who leave the company for greener pastures are always thrilled with how much better things are. Those who remain continue to complain about how bad things are. The last job I had that I could not walk away from was in the 60's and Uncle Sam did not care if you liked your job or not. Expediting is not for everyone, if you need a steady paycheck to feed your family, you should try another business.