Another deranged cop attacks

[layoutshooter]

Yep. And I'm sure the rolls had been reversed for some.

How do you reverse a roll? They slide into an oven one way and back out the other. There is one place in MO that throws them. I have not been there, don't believe in food fights.

 

[BigCat]

How do you reverse a roll? They slide into an oven one way and back out the other. There is one place in MO that throws them. I have not been there, don't believe in food fights.

Yeah and there is just something about eating food that has been thrown across the room.

 

[AMonger]

Pierson was not charged with a traffic violation or a criminal offense -- but he was arrested and detained in handcuffs for 45 minutes because the sight of a Mundane carrying a firearm caused Bassett to irrigate his underwear.

Okay, I'll bite. What's a Mundane? Also, I noted that no author claimed ownership to those schlocky prose. It reads like some kid's letter to the Playboy Forum.

A mundane, sometimes called a mere mundane, is a non-uniformed person, someone the glorified, sanctified caste considers of lower status than themselves, evidenced by the fact that, in many places, assaulting a police dog results in greater penalties than assaulting a citizen.

He writes that way to mock them.

 

[AMonger]

And you know what? I saw a POLITICIAN dive in to save a VOTER! What's up with that? According to you, they're all soul sucking scum.

I saw a mafia hit man help a little old lady across the street. Guess that makes him a good guy.

 

[BobWolf]

I had a stupid traffic stop once.
A few years ago I was pulled over by a New York State Trooper in Rochester NY over for a 7 MPH in my car and I was detained and cuffed while he checked my paper work wrote the tickett. I asked an attorney if that was legal and the officer wrote in the report in a way that said he cuffed me for my and his safety.
B.T.W. I had just come off a double shift as a meddic. Oh yeah, I was still in uniform. Concerned with his safety? I think he felt I was going to Bandaid him.

Bob Wolf.

 

[Moot]

A mundane, sometimes called a mere mundane, is a non-uniformed person, someone the glorified, sanctified caste considers of lower status than themselves,

As noted in my sig line I'm a follower of Mr. Goodtude and his "embrace the mundane" philosophy. Does this mean the Tude is endorsing this mundane screwball author that is ashamed to attach his name to the schlock he writes?

 

[AMonger]

As noted in my sig line I'm a follower of Mr. Goodtude and his "embrace the mundane" philosophy. Does this mean the Tude is endorsing this mundane screwball author that is ashamed to attach his name to the schlock he writes?

His name is William Grigg. His name and photo are quite prominently displayed on his blog at http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com, as is his bio.

 

[Moot]

Does Mr. Grigg write the Playboy Forum using a truckload of made up names?

 

[AMonger]

Does Mr. Grigg write the Playboy Forum using a truckload of made up names?

That you call it schlock says more about you than him.

 

[Turtle]

That you call it schlock says more about you than him.

The prose is, nonetheless, schlocky. It's schlock-full of humorous but tacky euphemisms crafted to make the author feel superior to the subject while pushing the biased buttons of contempt and derision of the readers. All too many of the great-in-their-own-mind "Internet" movie reviewers do the same thing.

 

[Ragman]

. . . don't believe in food fights.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

I was a victim of coicumstance!

 

[Brisco]

Notice it's another case I'm which the dashcam footage mysteriously disappears. Now they're attacking gun-toting citizens even in the recently free West. This cop is clearly delusional.
This is from Pro Libertate for the links. Also check out the previous article, "How To Kill A Law Enforcement Career," the unfortunate story of an honorable cop among corrupt ones.


The Sacred Cause of "Officer Safety"

“It’s just about being safe.”

Thus spoke Deputy Corry Bassett of the Lincoln County, Wyoming Sheriff’s Office as he struggled to justify handcuffing Robert Pierson during an August 11, 2011 traffic stop.

Pierson, a Marine combat veteran, had been riding his motorcycle near Alpine when another motorist called to complain about a biker passing a number of slow-moving motor homes. Pierson was not charged with a traffic violation or a criminal offense -- but he was arrested and detained in handcuffs for 45 minutes because the sight of a Mundane carrying a firearm caused Bassett to irrigate his underwear.

“I know you have a gun,” Bassett said a few seconds into the stop, which was recorded on Pierson’s cell phone. “Are you a cop?”

When Pierson indicated that he was not part of the armed revenue-extracting caste, Bassett muttered: “OK, what I’m going to do is – put your hands behind your back right now.”

As he handcuffed the compliant motorist, Bassett explained, “I don’t like someone with a gun,” while insisting, “You’re not under arrest.”

The second statement is an unalloyed lie: Whenever a police officer restrains someone, that person is under arrest. The first statement is a lie by omission: If Pierson had been a police officer, Bassett would not have complained about him carrying a gun. The category of “someone” thus applies only to Mundanes, whose very existence is seen as a threat to the unimaginably precious personages who wear state-issued costumes.

“It’s the first thing you should have told me, [that] you’ve got a gun,” simpered Bassett, whose panic-tinged voice was thrown into sharp relief by Pierson’s composure.

“Well, actually I’m not required to tell you in either Idaho or Wyoming,” Pierson correctly pointed out.

“Yes, you are,” insisted Bassett. “If you’re packing a gun, I want to know about it.”

“Well, I’m open-carrying,” Pierson observed, stating the obvious. As Bassett began a rote speech describing the sacred imperative of “officer safety,” Pierson pointed out that he had done nothing wrong or illegal, that the deputy’s safety “is not in any way in jeopardy," and that actually “it’s not my concern.”

“It is!” yelped Bassett. “It’s my concern!”

“My only concern is my personal rights and individual liberties, which you are violating right now,” noted Pierson.

“No, I am not,” Bassett lied.

“You have me handcuffed,” Pierson reminded the increasingly petulant officer. “I handcuffed you for [sic] number one, you did not tell me you had a gun on you, ‘kay?” Bassett groused. “You do not get off your bike and face me, and I see a weapon on you! I don’t like that!”

“You asked me if I could get off my bike, and you said `yes,’” recounted Pierson.

“I understand your concerns about search and seizure, but you have to understand one thing about where we’re at in law enforcement,” stated Bassett. “I’m asking you for my safety. I don’t know you. I don’t know your intentions.”

The same could have been said by Pierson about Bassett, who was, after all, just another armed stranger. One critical difference, of course, is that Pierson knew that Bassett’s intentions were malign: After all, the deputy had detained him, which is an act of aggression by any definition.

Recall that when Bassett noted that Pierson had a gun, his first question was: “Are you a cop?” If Pierson had been a fellow member of the Brotherhood of Official Plunder, this would have allayed Bassett’s concerns.

In fact, after noticing that Pierson carried a military ID, Bassett suggested that the detainee should see the encounter in terms of “force security” in a battle zone.

“You’re in the military,” Bassett began. “You ever been shot at? Would you like, if you roll up on somebody you have no idea who they are … wouldn’t it be a question in your mind if this person’s got weapons on them?”

Bassett, who never served in the military, clearly saw himself as part of an army of occupation –and insisted on unqualified submission to his supposed authority.

“Your safety does not trump my right and my liberty,” Pierson tutored the deputy.

“When I stop you, yes it does,” asserted Bassett.

“Your personal safety is more important than all the laws, the Constitution, and every one of my personal rights and liberties,” summarized Pierson, his voice heavy with disgusted incredulity.

“When I’m in a traffic stop, yes,” declared Bassett. “I’m in control of this situation.”

“The Constitution is in control of this situation,” Pierson rejoined. “No – I am… and if I feel that I’m going to be threatened by the fact that you have a gun on your side, by hell I’m gonna do it,” concluded Bassett.

Forty-five minutes later, Deputy Rob Andazola arrived to provide “backup.” At that point, as Bassett has admitted in a sworn deposition, the deputies offered to unshackle Pierson if he allowed Andazola to draw his weapon and shoot the motorcyclist in the event he made any gesture perceived as a “threat.”

Pierson didn’t agree to those terms. Eventually a patrol supervisor reached the scene and acknowledged that the motorcyclist had done nothing wrong. Until that happened, however, Pierson was handcuffed, disarmed, and entirely at the mercy of two armed strangers who considered it their right – if not their duty – to kill him if he displayed any behavior that made them uneasy.

“I didn’t know whether kicking my leg over the bike, or walking away, or what they could possibly constitute as a hostile act,” Pierson told the Associated Press. “And I was a little unnerved by the fact that they were threatening lethal force with a deadly weapon against a man who was compliant, in handcuffs, who had been screened.”

In the sacred cause of “officer safety,” no precaution is excessive, no imposition unjustified – and no constitutional “guarantee” of individual rights is binding. Pierson’s legitimate concern for citizen safety in the presence of police is underscored by an incident that occurred near Canton, Ohio just weeks before the traffic stop in Wyoming.

Just listened to the whole audio recording in link provided to website............

Good Gawd........this Pierson character will probably be one of the biggest morons this Law Enforcement Officer would have the pleasure of crossing paths with his whole LE Career.

More Power to Bassett.....and coming January 22nd next year......the Judge that hears this case will probably tell this Pierson moron to get the Hell out of his Courtroom.

 

[AMonger]

Just listened to the whole audio recording in link provided to website............

Good Gawd........this Pierson character will probably be one of the biggest morons this Law Enforcement Officer would have the pleasure of crossing paths with his whole LE Career.

More Power to Bassett.....and coming January 22nd next year......the Judge that hears this case will probably tell this Pierson moron to get the Hell out of his Courtroom.

You had to quote that whole text?
The moron in this case is the cop, who is in the wrong all the way. But as we saw in several cases in recent years (Kelo vs. New London, for example), that doesn't mean the gummint won't just say, "Screw it, we're doing what we want and you can't do anything about it."
If it goes the way you say, you're not going to like where this leads. Can you imagine what it will be like when any contact with a cop gets everybody restrained until the cops decide otherwise? That's where we're headed. It's happened far too often.

 

[AMonger]

The prose is, nonetheless, schlocky. It's schlock-full of humorous but tacky euphemisms crafted to make the author feel superior to the subject while pushing the biased buttons of contempt and derision of the readers. All too many of the great-in-their-own-mind "Internet" movie reviewers do the same thing.

That's the point. He's saying the cop is contemptible, and he's right. It's a blog, not a newspaper.

 

[Turtle]

That's the point. He's saying the cop is contemptible, and he's right. It's a blog, not a newspaper.

Newspaper or blog, doesn't matter. Schlocky is schlocky.

 

[Brisco]

Can you imagine what it will be like when any contact with a cop gets everybody restrained until the cops decide otherwise? That's where we're headed. It's happened far too often.

Officer Bassett asked Pierson if he had a weapon/gun on him.......

As is clearly recorded.........Pierson did not say "yes or no"......instead Pierson blurted out "I DO NOT CONSENT TO ANY ILLEGAL SEARCH". (or something like that) That probably put Officer Bassett on immediate high alert that he may be dealing with an Anti-Government Wacko. (IMO....doesn't matter. Pierson HAD a weapon on him and did NOT immediately say "Yes....I do have a Gun on me")

Now......Considering how many LE Officers have been either Killed by the Anti-Government Loons:

2010 West Memphis police shootings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or attempted to be Killed by these Loons:

Chevie Kehoe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have NO issue with Bassett "DETAINING" Pierson in the best form available. IMO again.....Bassett showed Great Restraint when dealing with this Guy. Trust me.....If I was out there behind a Badge and had been the one in Bassetts position, I would have done the EXACT same thing. Being alone out there as he was......I applaud him for taking control of the situation in the manner in which he did.

Now.......If I had been out there with a "Partner".....and we had asked him if he was carrying a weapon....and Pierson had blurted out what he did at the same time we SAW the gun on him....Pierson would've probably eaten a little road gravel while WE were detaining him to find out what's really going on.

 

[AMonger]

I'm trying to think of an appropriate reply that wouldn't get me banned...
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Nope, every appropriate one would get me banned.

 

[Turtle]

The cop asked the guy a very simple question, a very non-threatening question, a reasonable question. Instead of giving a simple, non-threatening and reasonable answer, he avoids the question completely and gives an answer from an entirely different conversation, a conversation that is only taking place inside his head.

Someone with a gun who cannot give a simple, coherent answer to a simple, coherent question, and instead gives an answer that is equivalent to, "I do not like pepperoni on my pizza," is going to be immediately viewed with high suspicion and the officer will rightly take every precaution to ensure his own safety until he can determine the biker isn't a first class nutjob with a gun.

 

[layoutshooter]

AS long as they are not asking for my papers. They also cannot stop me and question why I am carrying my side arm OR long arm, loaded or otherwise, without them being concealed. In other words, open carry, which, at least for the time being, is STILL legal under the U.S. and Michigan Constitutions.

IF I am carrying concealed, which I often do, and am stopped by an officer I will, as required by Michigan law, inform the officer that I am carrying.