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RLENT

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Something you appear to have never been guilty of, probably the poor public education your proud of
Well, actually I went to school a number of different places .... public, in addition to private ..... but this was one of them - it's the sort of place that requires passing a test to get into:

WRA

Considering the alumni, methinks I'm in fairly decent company there .... but thanks for your concern. :D
 

chefdennis

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Rlent wrote:

Wow ..... what a rather sad and apathetic point of view ....

Of course, it's also a "no-personal-responsibility" viewpoint ..... (if that's "just the way it is", then it means nothing can be done about it, therefore one does not have to take any responsibility for it, because obviously it is totally out of one's control ...... )

you missed my point......I am more then OK with it......as for not taking responsibility... my time in the military serves as fulfilling my responsibility as my sons have and one still is....oh he even signed up with a "military contractor"... so he could "take more responsibility and get paid for what he is trained to do, kill people and destory things......one might say its in the blood.....
 
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mjolnir131

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Well, actually I went to school a number of different places .... public, in addition to private ..... but this was one of them - it's the sort of place that requires passing a test to get into:

WRA

Considering the alumni, methinks I'm in fairly decent company there .... but thanks for your concern. :D

I hate to break the news but most of your private schooling teachers are a product of a public education so you or your parents over paid for the same garbage everybody else gets,my condolences. I guess you don't realize that the worlds educational elites have evolved into being neither well educated nor elite.
 

mjolnir131

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Sorry - your crowd has already had their shot - and they made a total mess of it.

To be honest the pacifist ideology has ran rampant for over 40 year and we are in a much worse situation for it.

People disdain those who are successful and probably always will that more than anything else is why America is hated there are some huge and complex interaction going on but mostly it boils down to sour grapes, i would say 80% of the time America gets dinged for inappropriate action the county calling us out is doing the same thing or worse,and we let them do it.
 

mjolnir131

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Evil was not invented by mankind. It is silly to think so. Mankind is just the conduit for evil to be released. It can, however, be stopped, if mankind ever chooses to abandon it. Religion, countries etc, have nothing to do with it. Those are just the outlets and the excuses for the acceptance of evil.

I bet you guys had no idea that I could think such profound thoughts, did you? :p

I'm not so much a subscriber to good and evil ...order and chaos yes not so much for that good evil dogma.
 

mjolnir131

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As was said in The Day the World Stood Still...

Man MUST learn to get over their petty differences. Or there will never be peace...

As Captain Kirk said..Humans kill humans, we are a war like civilization...
We Have to learn to say, We will not kill today and take it day by day

Though Kirk is fictional, Roddenberry did try very hard to make him the perfect general. Deeply saddened by the loss of any sentient life but realizing that natural laws hold more sway than any lofty ideals.
 

RLENT

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you missed my point......I am more then OK with it ......
No Dennis ..... I didn't miss your point at all - I just simply choose not to comment on your "point" as you call it (I just figured that it really wasn't worth much of a response), instead choosing to comment on your point of view.

as for not taking responsibility, my time in the military serves as fulfilling my responsibility
Now you are completely missing mine ...... :rolleyes:

Exactly what responsibility is it that you think I'm talking about ?

...... one might say its in the blood.....
Let's hope and pray that the "in the blood" thing is a fallacy and that for his sake that the acorn falls far from the tree ...... :cool:
 

RLENT

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I hate to break the news but most of your private schooling teachers are a product of a public education
Really ?

You know and are familiar with each of my teachers curriculum vitae ? And their schooling ..... as well as mine ?

My, you are quite a knowledgeable fellow ......

Are you an alumni ? Familiar with the institution ? (..... well, of course not ......)

BTW, I also attended here:

Northwood University

..... at the Midland campus, back when it was known as Northwood Institute (but not for the criminally insane :D)

And just in case you are still missing it, they are both private institutions .....

I guess you don't realize that the worlds educational elites have evolved into being neither well educated nor elite.
I'm quite well aware of what the world's educational elites have evolved into ..... and not only that, but I'm entirely familiar with how it occurred, and why ...... which many (perhaps even yourself) are not.

You are the one that raised the issue of my "public education" - based entirely upon an assumption that was I educated in the public schools - a view which we now all see was not necessarily entirely correct .....

Further, you assume (and we all know what that does) that my views are a result of whatever schooling I have had (I can assure you - quite confidently - that by and large, they are not)

FWIW, I consider that what we really have here in the US (and unfortunately, now in many parts of the world) is a schooling system .....

The system's primary purpose is indoctrination, not education .... it is largely a propaganda, control, and brainwashing operation ..... designed to produce compliant citizens for the state ...... :eek:
 
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layoutshooter

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"The system's primary purpose is indoctrination, not education .... it is largely a propaganda, control, and brainwashing operation ..... designed to produce compliant citizens for the state ...... :eek: "


WOW!! If that is the primary reason for public education, and I kinda think it is, they sure must have failed big time where I am concerned!!!
 

OntarioVanMan

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"The system's primary purpose is indoctrination, not education .... it is largely a propaganda, control, and brainwashing operation ..... designed to produce compliant citizens for the state ...... :eek: "


WOW!! If that is the primary reason for public education, and I kinda think it is, they sure must have failed big time where I am concerned!!!

*LMAO* No comment!!...it's too easy!! hahaha
 

RLENT

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I bet you guys had no idea that I could think such profound thoughts, did you? :p
Layout,

I am, at times, quite impressed with some of the stuff you write - you certainly are capable of profound thought - just like any of us are. :D

It's really just a matter of choice - and whether one decides to ..... or not .... :rolleyes:

WOW!! If that is the primary reason for public education, and I kinda think it is, they sure must have failed big time where I am concerned!!!
Count yourself lucky (.... very lucky indeed) ;)
 

chefdennis

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my responce as to my fulfillment of the responsibility , was to the responsibility to MY point, not your idea of the responsibilty....as for my son, nope he fell close loves doing what he was trained for......thats why he signed with a "Military Contractor"... the TOE are far less....a bit tighter since a few Blackwater" issues, but still less......:D

Oh and he also thinks along the same lines as i do about turning sands of the middle eastt to glass and letting allah sort them out.......
 
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layoutshooter

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It is not luck. I did not go to public school starting in the 2nd grade until my second year of high school. My true "formative" years were in a private school. My 'freedom" skills were "honed" in my service to this Nation.
 
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