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[Turtle]

I was in AZ. a few weeks ago. I got a 30 day permit for my van for $14. Could I have bypassed and driven in/out/around AZ. without it? Probably so. I'm sure if I did and I was stopped the fine would have been far more than the "insurance policy".

How did you get a 30-day permit for your van? Permits are issued based upon miles driven in the state, and expire 96 hours (4 days) after they are issued, or when you exit the state, whichever comes first. A 30-day unlimited mileage permit for less than what it costs to transverse the state doesn't sound right.

 

[Hightech_Hobo]

Ann Rands novel "Atlas Shrugged" pointed to government officials making laws ambiguous so at any time an individual, who needed to be brought around, "to the proper way of thinking" could be.... via the selective enforcement of the ambiguities...

How did she see into the future so accurately one wonders....


Great read...will cover a couple of 800 milers!!


HT Hobo

 

[scottm4211]

Ayn Rand drives a Sprinter with Bolt. I think.

 

[Brisco]

Do I understand this to meen, the Step van used by companies such as UPS, FedEx, Dhl, and the multitude (like that word?) of other service companies and self employeed, have to stop and get weighed?

In my 26 years driving one of these, I never stopped and never saw any of the others stop.

Not too many FedEx "Home Delivery-Ground" trucks, UPS trucks, and DHL trucks that are the step-van/van type of trucks ever cross state lines. Most of those trucks are local and/or regional and never see the likes of a scalehouse on their routes. Maybe in areas like St Louis, Kansas City, or Texarkana might be areas where those trucks may pass a state line on their route, but I'm quite sure a Trooper aint going go chase one down for flying by the Coop without stopping since they know those types of delivery vehicles are not being used for Interstate Commerce.

As far as "Other Service Companies" that use those trucks, such as "Joes Plumbing" or Ralphs TV Repair". Again, not being used in Interstate Commerce, so Troopers probably let them slide. Now if a Step Van had "Pablos Nationwide Transport and Moving Service" plastered all over it, he best stop at that scale. Know what I mean.

 

[Ragman]

Not too many FedEx "Home Delivery-Ground" trucks, UPS trucks, and DHL trucks that are the step-van/van type of trucks ever cross state lines. Most of those trucks are local and/or regional and never see the likes of a scalehouse on their routes. Maybe in areas like St Louis, Kansas City, or Texarkana might be areas where those trucks may pass a state line on their route, but I'm quite sure a Trooper aint going go chase one down for flying by the Coop without stopping since they know those types of delivery vehicles are not being used for Interstate Commerce.

As far as "Other Service Companies" that use those trucks, such as "Joes Plumbing" or Ralphs TV Repair". Again, not being used in Interstate Commerce, so Troopers probably let them slide. Now if a Step Van had "Pablos Nationwide Transport and Moving Service" plastered all over it, he best stop at that scale. Know what I mean.

I see said the blind man to the deaf dog!

Once again E.O. comes through and answers the nagging questions of the day.

 

[Brisco]

How did you get a 30-day permit for your van? Permits are issued based upon miles driven in the state, and expire 96 hours (4 days) after they are issued, or when you exit the state, whichever comes first. A 30-day unlimited mileage permit for less than what it costs to transverse the state doesn't sound right.

Yes, there are "30 Day Permits" available at the Arizona POE. Arizona is one of the "oddball" states when it comes to needed permits to operate within their states. I have purchased a couple of 30 day permits for my 1 ton dually while delivering into and just driving through Arizona. One I purchased because I knew I was going to be back in Arizona a few days later because the dealer I was delivering a Travel Trailer to had like 25 more trailers sitting at our lot in Indiana ready to be delivered. And that IN-AZ route was a route I liked to run. A couple of others I bought were when I was delivering trailers to California. Instead of buying that 1 way trip permit through Arizona, and then stopping and getting another 1 way trip permit on my return trip, I would just by their 30 day permit for like $17, instead of buying 2 $14 permits. On the return trip if I had no trailer on my truck, which was the norm, I'd just drive right by the scalehouse. No reason to stop, I already had the permit needed with me.

Also, another "odd" rule Arizona has in play is the "OverWidth" permits required for Travel Trailers that have the awnings installed on them at the factory. If there is awning attached to the side of a Travel Trailer being delivered into Arizona for sale to the public, or just passing through Arizona heading to CA, you must purchase an "OD" permit at the POE. Even if you've only got a little 19-21ftr bumper pull trailer, that awning makes that trailer an "overwidth" trailer in Arizonas view.

I always found that ODD as hell since the EARS on my dually were wider than most of the 21-25-28ft bumper pull trailers I hooked up to, awning and all. Never questioned it....just paid the $28 and went on my way. (factory reimbursed of course)

 

[Turtle]

I was being facetiously pedantic. In Arizona, you must have either a "single trip permit" or a valid "Arizona registration". "Permits" are issued for single-trip miles driven. They also have 30, 60 and 90 day "registrations" you can get, where the vehicle is literally registered in the state for a period of time, same as if you lived there, except you don't need an Arizona plate.

 

[LDB]

How did I get it? I went inside, talked to the nice lady at the counter, listened as she told me I could get a 3 day for $60 or a 30 day for $14. I chose the 30 day, paid the $14, took the piece of paper and left.

 

[TheRebel]

I was in AZ. a few weeks ago. I got a 30 day permit for my van for $14.

This permit has to be purchased individually (o/o) or by the company?

 

[TheRebel]

How did I get it? I went inside, talked to the nice lady at the counter, listened as she told me I could get a 3 day for $60 or a 30 day for $14. I chose the 30 day, paid the $14, took the piece of paper and left.

This stuff reminds me of Austria... when you enter Austria you must buy a sticker in order to drive on their freeways... they're available for 4 days (I guess, it's been a while since I traveled over there) and it cost around 10 euros... and I'm talking here for regular cars, not commercial vehicles...

 

[Turtle]

This permit has to be purchased individually (o/o) or by the company?

Individually, but I suppose the company could pay for it. You can get the permit in person or online. If online, they'll just e-mail it to you.

 

[purgoose10]

This permit has to be purchased individually (o/o) or by the company?

When you hit the port of entry in Az you can get it there.

 

[yayashas]

I got my permit in arizona to. The weird thing is she wrote on paper in big leters that im under 10000. I wonder if ther is litle over weight if they will give me fine. Do they scale you on the spot? When going to or living Florida all must stop for inspection. I got in without stoping they been busy but on my way back it didnt work they came after me with $150 tiket, it was at night they were bored.

 

[LDB]

I got in without stoping they been busy but on my way back it didnt work they came after me with $150 tiket, it was at night they were bored.

$150 ticket would buy a lot of $14 permits.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

$150 ticket would buy a lot of $14 permits.

Leo..he said he got that ticket for not stopping at the AG station in Florida...

 

[LDB]

Yes, I was presuming a failure to stop ticket would be similar in various places. I look at the small fee as insurance against the big loss of a fine.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Yes, I was presuming a failure to stop ticket would be similar in various places. I look at the small fee as insurance against the big loss of a fine.

Yes..Turtle informed me of Wyoming's requirement..

I was delivering to Gillette....I stopped at the POE on 90 ...they don't scale us....just enter our DOT and look at our BOL...I asked what would happen if we did not do this....the scale gal said..Well IF you should get in an accident or get pulled over for some reason the trooper can see you did not check in and issue a $300. ticket for failure to do so.....in other words....Feeling lucky to-day?

5-10 minutes is worth the $300 bucks.

 

[Steady Eddie]

NM and OR you have to pull into the POI to obtain a permit. Cargo vans and Sprinters.

 

[LDB]

That whole thing about stay TX, OK, KS, NB, SD and ND or to the east isn't totally a bad idea.

 

[ChrisGa23]

But a van is a truck by Michigan standards..5,000Lbs...

on a slow day Barney Fife or some local jockey could pull ya over...

Pretty much do the same as you do...just keep motoring...

I wasnt aware and if it is posted I havent noticed. But I been to Michigan a 100 times and have never scaled. So far so good no one has stopped me.

To be honest I never been to a scale house. I really dont know what to do when you enter?