Advice

gt_mustang_gal

Expert Expediter
My husband has been in the trucking business (owner/operator) for almost 10 years and I am an accountant (CPA). He is considering hiring a driver for his contract and I am considering leaving my job to start a career in EXPEDITING. We want to do this mainly to increase our income, but also to see the country together. We plan to purchase a new straight truck (looking at Sterlings) and keep our old straight truck on his current route. We don't want to start out working for another owner/operator because he already knows that he loves the lifestyle. Me on the other hand.......it's going to be a total change going from an office job to being on the road all the time! We are in our late 20's and have no plans for children. Does anyone want to give me advice or an opinion on whether or not we are making a smart decision? Thanks in advance! :)
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
You might want to taake a leave of absence from your job and try it for a while. Sometimes a truck can get get pretty cramped for 2 people,
also showers at truck stops would probably be a new experience foryou and sleeping in a moving truck might take getting used to.Also there are no benefits such as health insurance etc.

Some couples adapt quite well,some do not.Good luck
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I would drive for an owner or a friend prior to a big financial commitment. As mentioned, take a leave of absence and see how it goes. Being in a confined area ect. will certainly test your compatability. In addition, be weary of colorful tourist stories.
Davekc
owner
20 years
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Before you make the investment take the test. You need one week for the test. It's best if your husband is available to take the test with you. If you must do it yourself then do so and do your best to figure him in. Here's the test. You and your husband have to spend one week living in your walk in closet. You can have one cot and two lawn chairs. You have to take turns sleeping on the cot. You can leave the closet for a few minutes for a toilet break and about every other day take an hour out for a shower. You can go to the kitchen long enough to gather whatever you are going to eat to take back to the closet. After one week living in the closet if it still interests you then you should look into it. Good luck.

Leo
truck 4958

Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like.
 

Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
If you are a CPA I really doubt you will increase your income by being part of an expediting team . Check with fleet owners looking for teams in the free classifieds at this site . You'd work on percentage and have to pay for fuel and other expenses . Very few expediters are in it for the money . It's the lifestyle they enjoy .
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Dave gave excellent advice,be wary of the glowing paid tourist tales put out by relatively new individuals. Going through Detroit on a hot summer night is not a rosy picture.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
>If you are a CPA I really doubt you will increase your
>income by being part of an expediting team . Check with
>fleet owners looking for teams in the free classifieds at
>this site . You'd work on percentage and have to pay for
>fuel and other expenses . Very few expediters are in it for
>the money . It's the lifestyle they enjoy .



Regarding the walk-in closet test, don't laugh it off as a joke. Another test might be more practical and take less time. Use public bathrooms for a week. One shower every three days at home is OK, just know the showers you'll take on the road would likely be in a truck stop. Better still, if there is a truck stop within an hour of home, go there to take your shower. At night, if you have to get up to go, DO NOT use your toilet at home. DRIVE someplace to use the bathroom, walk to a nearby gas station, or use a porta-pody or some other device. Truckers do that all the time.
 

gt_mustang_gal

Expert Expediter
Why was A-team's longer response edited? (which included information about their prior careers and comments about their earnings) I read it earlier this morning and decided to log back in and print it for my husband to read, but now it is gone.
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Before you go to the closet for the weekend,take a tape recorder to a truck stop and record about 15 minutes of a large truck idling with a refigerated trailer also roaring away. Then when you are ready to sleep in the closet hook the tape recorder up to a timer and have it come on about every 30 minutes. There is something about straight trucks that attract the loudest trucks in the parking lot to park next to them.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
I'd like to know the same thing. Why was most of my post deleted? There was nothing provocative or controversial in it, except that we're doing very well as expediters and came in with no prior experience. Why cannot success stories be told in the Forums?
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
>If you are a CPA I really doubt you will increase your
>income by being part of an expediting team . Check with
>fleet owners looking for teams in the free classifieds at
>this site . You'd work on percentage and have to pay for
>fuel and other expenses . Very few expediters are in it for
>the money . It's the lifestyle they enjoy .

Since the point was deleted - improperly, I believe - let me state it again. Diane and I were both successful white collar professionals before we began expediting. We make more money now as expediters (net after taxes) than we did before. We've put more money IN THE BANK in the last 18 months (the length of our expediting career) than in any other 18 month period in our lives.

While we got into expediting partly because of the lifestyle and have been delighted by the many tourist opportunities we've enjoyed, we would not have made the career change if we thought our income would not have grown. It has.

Because we've made the committment we've made to the industry and because we have the requisite business skills, expediting has been very, very good to us. We love it and aren't looking back.
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
While A Team claims to have saved more money then at any other time in his life,one needs to look at what life style he gave up to become a paid tourist. I believe he sold all of his possesions including his house so his daily living expenses have shrunk which is why he could save more. I am not being critical of the A Team,each to his own but be wary of pie in the sky claims.
 

Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
I don't deny there are some who do make a good living at it but there are also those that have their trucks repo'ed . I'd guess the majority of repo's belonged to newbies trying to drive solo though . Still , the majority of teams are husband and wife and living on combined incomes and have their children grown . Does anyone know of a team of two people supporting seperate families ? A Team must be working for the best of carriers getting the best loads and running more than average . I don't think his situation is common to the majority of expediters though . None of our business but I'm sure curious what their combined white collar income was compared to what they net now .
 

Doggie Daddy

Veteran Expediter
>Why was A-team's longer response edited? (which included
>information about their prior careers and comments about
>their earnings) I read it earlier this morning and decided
>to log back in and print it for my husband to read, but now
>it is gone.



mustang gt gal, get used to it.seems to happen quite often of late.
:-( :-( . DD.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
A Team must be working
>for the best of carriers getting the best loads and running
>more than average . I don't think his situation is common to
>the majority of expediters though . None of our business but
>I'm sure curious what their combined white collar income was
>compared to what they net now .

We are indeed working for one of the best carriers (is there really "A" best? Depends on each driver's style and needs, does it not?). Suffice it to say that our household gross income as expediters is significantly higher than what it was in our previous careers. I'm not going to be posting income details beyond that.

Our savings are way higher because - as Rich mentioned - we eliminated all debt and most expenses from our lives. Living happily on the road as we are, we saw no need and had no desire to keep our house, cars, and household goods.

Pie in the sky? For some, perhaps. For us, it's simply the choices we made and efforts we put forth.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I think we get a little closer to the truth when the whole story is told, rather than a small part.
That is why part of the post was edited.
Davekc
owner
20 years
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
>I think we get a little closer to the truth when the whole
>story is told, rather than a small part.
>That is why part of the post was edited.
>Davekc
>owner
>20 years

Short story:

Entered expediting 18 months ago. Made money from first day. Never had a money-losing month. Most expensive mistake was leaving my shower bag behind in a truck stop. Have endured suffering (long days, break sweat loading freight, zero-income weeks, lost money to truck breakdowns, etc.) but it does not get us down. Doing well financially. Work hard. In-service, on-time delivery, and freight damage claims (zero) are above fleet averages. Loving life on the road, especially tourist opportunities. Won't publish my tax returns, just as you won't publish yours; nor should you. Are prepared for slow times because we built reserves in good times. Running business according to plan. Meeting and exceeding our personal and financial goals.

Based on or track record to date, expect our circumstances to improve when we become owner/operators instead of fleet drivers. Will have more money (fleet owner's profits) to work with and increased decision-making independence. Reserves (saved from expediting earnings in last 18 months) sufficient to meet all but the most catastrophic expediting challenges, and have insurance to cover those. Have sufficient business skills and common sense to run a one-truck business in an industry where we've already proven ourselves. Cash flow is excellent because we have divested ourselves of our house, cars, and household goods...thus only minimal household expenses beyond the truck itself.

Of that, what do you wish to edit out? What is not true? What example is set that others should avoid?

Hint: Most people are smart enough to figure out on their own if they want to own a home or not.

Hint Two: Some people will over-commit to too much debt (truck payments) no matter what you say or do. Note the lottery winners that are broke in a year. For some, money is to them as oil is to water. Nothing you say or do to help will keep the two together. Yet those that go broke by their own hand often blame others for their circumstances. It's a lie and deep down they know it. The success and joy we find in expediting does not cause others to fail any more than winning a lottery causes some people to go broke in a year.

Enough of this. 30 days off from the EO Open Forum starting now, if you leave my posts in this thread unedited and stop deleting the perfectly letitimate posts I've put up before. Maybe off forever. Maybe it's time to go back to reading the classics instead of putting time in here.

Have fun telling others how much expediting sucks and why they will fail if they try to do what you have done. I won't interrupt you with my inconvenient love for the life, belief in others, and optimistic views.

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No experience to speak of, but will happily do an apples-to-apples comparisson of our (husband/wife team) first 18 months to the first 18 months today's seasoned veterans had when they were new.
 
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