A rarity, a legitimate lawsuit

[layoutshooter]

I rather suspect that under the law such info is not deemed to be "public info" ...


To who ?


Only one: you'll be able to come up with an equally silly reply to this post, similar to the post to which I am replying ...


I need a load ...


Leave it to you to conflate the inevitable unintended consequences of an action by a State Legislature with someone who had nothing whatsoever to do with said action ...

If you don't like the law, seek to change the law ...

I can't change that law, I live in Michigan.

The point was that EVERYONE'S family SHOULD be as important as the next in the eyes of the law. Obama's should NOT get "special" treatment. He is JUST a public servant. No different than any other. ALL Men are created EQUAL and SHOULD be treated such under the law. My house, my family, EQUAL protection.

Putting that list in the paper was irresponsible and was intended to cause trouble and maybe invite harm. That is NOT what "rights" are for. When "rights" are exercised in a proper and responsible manner, ALL People's rights are protected and enhanced. This article did neither. It was NOT responsible journalism and was not meant to be.

 

[layoutshooter]

Ok, now we are in a big boy pizzing contest and you know it. Ok , on one hand we have freedom of speech going on and freedom of press. Now that freedom of press right has jeopardized many folks in their homes imho. He said and she said arguments can be argued till the cows come home and there are valid points on both sides of the fence

Here is a solution to protect yourself, your goods and your kids.

ADT Authorized Dealer | Protect Your Home

Yes it works. I have one in our place. If something falls, walks, or makes a sound it will hear it, fire, smoke, break-ins, it gets it. Its on windows and doors. Well, that's my 2cents worth--- oh, I forgot, the alarm system calls the fire and police department and that LOUD HORN THAT BLOWS IS HIGHLY , IRRITATING. How do I know, because I have set it off b-4 and it will blow u out of the houseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...amen

Land mines work much better than ADT.

 

[layoutshooter]

Unintended consequences. Now we have a proposed law as a patch for another law. The very definition of a permit (as a noun) is a written order granting special permission to do something. Hey, here's an idea! How about learning the meaning of the phrase "shall not be infringed" and eliminate the gun permits in the first place? You don't need a written order granting special permission to exercise any other rights.

The more Obama tries on outlaw or control guns the CLOSER we will get to universal carry. The more restrictive the law the more they will be ignored. As the Federal Government becomes more marginal and disrespected the People will start to become more assertive of their rights.

 

[Brisco]

The more Obama tries on outlaw or control guns the CLOSER we will get to universal carry. The more restrictive the law the more they will be ignored. As the Federal Government becomes more marginal and disrespected the People will start to become more assertive of their rights.

.......and more assertive / aggressive when it comes to self protection.

I will ALWAYS carry.......whether it is legal or not. And....will probably never have any trouble in doing so either. I am NOT a Criminal Element out there participating in Criminal Activities. Hell.....it's been going on 22 years since I was even stopped for a Traffic Violation...........

 

[layoutshooter]

.......and more assertive / aggressive when it comes to self protection.

I will ALWAYS carry.......whether it is legal or not. And....will probably never have any trouble in doing so either. I am NOT a Criminal Element out there participating in Criminal Activities. Hell.....it's been going on 22 years since I was even stopped for a Traffic Violation...........

Obama is going to find out rather quickly that his attempt to control MILLIONS of people is going to be about as easy as controlling a handful of fine, dry sand by squeezing harder. The harder he squeezes the more will slip out.

Obama is a bully. Like all bullies he is a coward. He does NOT have the "stones" to attempt to do what he wants in a legal manner, by amending the Constitution or calling for a Constitutional Convention. SO, he will bully. He will lie, he will use all kinds of force, even lethal if need be, to achieve his goals. The lie fest starts tomorrow. Obama will "release" his gun control ideas. The manure is ready and the blades are spinning faster. I, for one, would NOT want to be the person(s) who are going to be tasked with enforcing this stuff.

I agree, I too will always carry, ANYTHING that I want WHERE EVER I want. It are how it are.

 

[davekc]

Yep ....he has 19 recommendations of which no one knows yet how many he will push with executive action. Of course he is going to surround himself with children so it has the right political and mainstream optics. Likely just the first round with more to push later.

 

[layoutshooter]

Yep ....he has 19 recommendations of which no one knows yet how many he will push with executive action. Of course he is going to surround himself with children so it has the right political and mainstream optics. Likely just the first round with more to push later.

ANY use of executive order to infringe on the Second Amendment will cause a LOT of trouble.

Yeah, he is going to pull out the 'victims' for sure, all except the two greatest victims, the People and the Constitution.

As I said, he was waiting for his second term to begin his drive to eliminate the Constitution. He HATES it! It is in his way. It starts tomorrow. NOTHING he will propose will will legal. The 'lie meter' will be "PEGGED" for sure. The truth is not in him. I am working on my letters to my useless, left wing, jerks of Senators. Another to my congressman. More to my state rep and Senator, urging them to pass laws in Michigan insuring our freedom and refusing to enforce the garbage that is coming our way.

The evil expands.

 

[davekc]

Don't worry about the second amendment. It is for the children.

 

[scottm4211]

LOS you carry in your truck?

 

[OntarioVanMan]

LOS you carry in your truck?

What a PIA to carry..can't go into most public buildings, shopping centers even state rest areas...most places we deliver can't possess a firearm the work place...pretty much just walk around a cold street or drive around the block in your car...you can carry in a Truck Stop parking lot. but can't take it indoors...well DOH....
Pretty much the STATES have killed the 2nd more then the feds...

 

[scottm4211]

Gotta be tough crossing the border too.

 

[Brisco]

What a PIA to carry..can't go into most public buildings, shopping centers even state rest areas...most places we deliver can't possess a firearm the work place...pretty much just walk around a cold street or drive around the block in your car...you can carry in a Truck Stop parking lot. but can't take it indoors...well DOH....
Pretty much the STATES have killed the 2nd more then the feds...

That's the Life......WORLD.....you live in.

Been to Texas lately?? I can walk through a Mall and see who is carrying, who might be, and clearly who isn't. (Men of Course - Don't have X-Ray Vision to see in Ladys Purses - Handbags)

Believe me......there are a LOT of people carrying down here in this state. And....these people aren't your Hood Rats (Obawa Voters) who are walking around showing off their pink & purple boxers either.............

 

[OntarioVanMan]

That's the Life......WORLD.....you live in.

Been to Texas lately?? I can walk through a Mall and see who is carrying, who might be, and clearly who isn't. (Men of Course - Don't have X-Ray Vision to see in Ladys Purses - Handbags)

Believe me......there are a LOT of people carrying down here in this state. And....these people aren't your Hood Rats (Obawa Voters) who are walking around showing off their pink & purple boxers either.............

SD is the same way....

 

[scottm4211]

But Brisco that's the point. LOS isn't just running in Texas, or his home state of Michigan. That's why I asked the question.

 

[LDB]

You can carry anywhere that doesn't have metal detectors and nobody will ever know, if you've been properly trained. The key is training and practice.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

You can carry anywhere that doesn't have metal detectors and nobody will ever know, if you've been properly trained. The key is training and practice.

Really?....so you can carry on private property, like shopping malls...the workplace, that specifically post signs against firearms??

 

[LDB]

If you know what you are doing you can carry anywhere. It may violate someone's un-Constitutional preference but it isn't impossible to do completely unknown to anyone.

 

[scottm4211]

If you know what you are doing you can carry anywhere. It may violate someone's un-Constitutional preference but it isn't impossible to do completely unknown to anyone.

Is FedEx ok with it or is that not part of the lease agreement?

 

[LDB]

Since it doesn't apply to me it doesn't matter to me and I haven't bothered to look it up.

 

[scottm4211]

I guess it not how you is.