A Conservative Manifesto....

Turtle

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Call it what you like, if you're going to "paraphrase" a particular statement, you should go find the exact quote and bring it here.
It's not a matter of calling it what I like. It's a matter of calling it what it actually is. Perhaps you need to do some serious research into the difference between a quote and a paraphrase, because the difference is quite significant. If I wanted to quote him, I would have. Going out and finding the actual quote wasn't necessary to the point I was making. If you want to know his precise quote, that's something for you to go out there and find all on your own.
 

Turtle

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Your stand in THIS THREAD pretty much explains where your head is......
Actually, it doesn't, at least not in general. It only explains where you assume it is. My stand in that thread only explains where my head is in that thread. Any "pretty much" is in your head, not mine.

When it's a conservative female, the gloves are off, liberal woman.....not so much.
Again, another assumption. With me, the gloves are always off, conservative or liberal - they're all fair game. Funny thing is, I'm a conservative. It's just that I'm not a blind and stupid one. I won't look the other way or protect a conservative just because they are a conservative. Conservatism doesn't give them a free pass. If they act the fool, I'll call them on it, male or female, conservative or liberal. They're all fair game.

Letterman FUNNY...

Levin BAD.........
True enough, I have said, and think, that Letterman is funny. I have never said, nor implied, that Levin is bad, however. That's something you made up. Fact is, I don't think he's bad at all. I like him. Being sexist isn't the litmus test for good, bad or funny.

The question however still stands. You like the way his brain works, and now you've found out he's a sexist. How, oh, how, are you going to reconcile that? What does that say about you? <giggle>

Tell me again who the sexist is?
Well, duh, you are.
 

Black Sheep

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I think his "sexism" comes from his "schtick" that uses insults against anyone, male or female, that happens to get on his nerves. For example, have you heard him go off at Keith Olberman? Reminds me of Don Rickles a lot. I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as Bill O'Reilly. His sexism is in a totally different class. Hard to believe he has any femail viewers at all since the shower scandal that broke a couple of years ago - the guy's a real jerk. Levin, on the other hand, uses his intellect as an offset to the insults.
 

dieseldiva

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The question however still stands. You like the way his brain works, and now you've found out he's a sexist. How, oh, how, are you going to reconcile that? What does that say about you? <giggle>

No need to reconcile anything, I don't believe Levin to be a sexist.....see the description below.

Well, duh, you are.

Again, I don't think so........

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Noun1.sexist - a man with a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women
I don't think this description fits Levin OR myself but of course, you're free to think any foolish thing you like.

As a side note....you should probably be more careful of the names/labels you pin on people.....

By the way, you CLAIM to be conservative.....the topic of this thread concerns Mark's book.....have you bothered to read it?
 

Turtle

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No need to reconcile anything, I don't believe Levin to be a sexist.....see the description below.
Of course you don't believe he's a sexist. How can you? You've already gone out there on that limb and stated that you like how his mind works. You can't back down now. You're only "out" is to ignore his sexism and claim it's not sexism. And by default, you are then also endorsing his sexist remarks, as well as how he makes mean spirited jokes about how women look. Since it's OK for him to do it to women, I assume it's fine and dandy if I start referring to you as Your Thighness, since that certainly fits well with the Diva theme, to name but one well-fitting fit.

Tell me again who the sexist is?

Well, duh, you are.
Again, I don't think so........
I can provide you with examples, in your own words, if you like. When you make fun of or belittle the opposite sex, in any context, that's sexist. "Johnny" and his testicles in Mama's purse immediately come to mind. That's not just sexist, it's stereotypically sexist.

Don't worry. It doesn't make you bad, tho.


I don't think this description fits Levin OR myself but of course, you're free to think any foolish thing you like.
The only foolish thinking is to think a narrowly applied description of a subset of a sexist is the same as the broader, complete definition of sexism and sexist. Using your narrow definition, you're right, it doesn't for either of you. But the broader definition, and its applications, do absolutely.

The broad definition of sexism is:

Discrimination based on gender, especially [but not exclusively] discrimination against women.

Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.

And the definition of a sexist is a person with sexist attitudes or behaviors, or one who fosters sexism.

But the term has many applications, including that of bigotry, where one accuses the opposite sex of doing something that they themselves do, or more pointedly, showing disdain for someone of the opposite sex because they don't behave in a manner in which you want them to. Those tables can easily be turned. Women think and behave a certain way, and if you think your way is the best way, the superior way, and if men don't think and act the way you want them to then it is unacceptable, then you are guilty of sexist superiority. Sexism is close-mindedness, partisan in favor of a particular gender role. It is preconceived, predisposed and highly opinionated to disparage and belittle those of the opposite sex who do not behave in a manner in which you wish them to behave. That's you, Babe.


As a side note....you should probably be more careful of the names/labels you pin on people.....
I am careful about it.

By the way, you CLAIM to be conservative.....the topic of this thread concerns Mark's book.....have you bothered to read it?
You say that like you doubt my claim. I'm shocked. <snort> Just because I'm not a Kool-Aid drinking, conservative flag waving sheeple does not mean my claim is false. If you go back and read many of my posts you will see that they come from a very conservative bent, even where I'm criticizing the comments of so-called conservatives. Then again, you may have to have someone else explain my posts to you, since in the past you have shown a significant deficiency in comprehending the meaning of what I have written, and instead have invented your own meanings for what I have said.

As for whether or not I've bothered to read Mark Levin's book, no, I have not. I already agree with probably 85% of everything he says. Reading his book won't change that. If the opportunity to read it for free presents itself, I'll jump on it.
 

dieseldiva

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I can provide you with examples, in your own words, if you like. When you make fun of or belittle the opposite sex, in any context, that's sexist. "Johnny" and his testicles in Mama's purse immediately come to mind. That's not just sexist, it's stereotypically sexist.

Don't worry. It doesn't make you bad, tho.

Oh my goodness......we're finally getting down to the truth of what your problem is with me.....

What's the matter, that comment hit a little too close to home for you??


 

RLENT

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Wow DD .... that's just a really thorough, completely engaged, and terribly well thought out response ...... glad ya saw fit to substantively address all of what the Terrapin wrote in it's entirety .... and not just grab on to some little portion and then try to twist it into something that it wasn't ......

I'm really impressed ......heheheh .... ya absolutely couldn't make this **** up if ya tried ..... hilarious ..... :rolleyes:
 
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Turtle

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Oh my goodness......we're finally getting down to the truth of what your problem is with me.....
No, my problem with you (not that's it all that much of a problem) is twofold: you are sexist and hypocritical. While they often overlap, they are two separate issues, to be sure.
What's the matter, that comment hit a little too close to home for you??
Not at all. It merely illustrates why you are sexist. And, it's not the first time you have brought up testicles to foster your sexism.


Fish in a barrel.
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muttly

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Oh my goodness......we're finally getting down to the truth of what your problem is with me.....

What's the matter, that comment hit a little too close to home for you??



I think it hit a nerve. Levin isn't a sexist or extreme sexist. That's just nonsense.
 

Turtle

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Speaking of fish, I know you're trying hard to bait me, but I won't bite until you go back to your other screen name. Sorry.
 

muttly

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Speaking of fish, I know you're trying hard to bait me, but I won't bite until you go back to your other screen name. Sorry.

I'm not trying to bait you. Just calling it like I see it. The topic drifted to the accusation that Levin was a sexist or extreme sexist, which he is not.
 
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