1/2 hour break still going smoothly

[layoutshooter]

I do agree that what the future looks like for the vans does seem to say " it is coming" LOGS, Scales, etc.

However do you think it will be any easier for you as you run along in your "big truck"? NOT! it will also get much worse as time goes along.

From the begining the regs where there and over the years have changed, so now that the latest changes have been made, you need to adapt or change your line of work.

I for one have been using the new rules for a few months and do not see a problem with them. Having to run logs while in both a cargo van and box truck.

Everyone knows that peanuts are good for one's health. They are a good source of protein and are high in heart healthy fats. Everyone should be required to eat them. It makes no difference if you are allergic to them.

Regulations have to make sense. There is no safety reason for the 1/2 break. I my case it is like someone with a peanut allergy. That wasted half hour puts me to sleep. I should not be "forced" to change my line of work for a regulation that serves no valid purpose. I was not unsafe before the regulations went into effect. I ran legal, safely and awake, without ANY problems.

I defy ANYONE to PROVE that a 1/2 break enhances safety. Same with the new 34 reset, PROVE, with hard science, how it enhances safety. IF these regs do not, the FMSCA is over stepping their bounds and they need reigned in. Blind acceptance of government regulation, with NO oversight by the People, has got us EXACTLY where we are today. Control solely for controls sake.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Everyone knows that peanuts are good for one's health. They are a good source of protein and are high in heart healthy fats. Everyone should be required to eat them. It makes no difference if you are allergic to them.

Regulations have to make sense. There is no safety reason for the 1/2 break. I my case it is like someone with a peanut allergy. That wasted half hour puts me to sleep. I should not be "forced" to change my line of work for a regulation that serves no valid purpose. I was not unsafe before the regulations went into effect. I ran legal, safely and awake, without ANY problems.

I defy ANYONE to PROVE that a 1/2 break enhances safety. Same with the new 34 reset, PROVE, with hard science, how it enhances safety. IF these regs do not, the FMSCA is over stepping their bounds and they need reigned in. Blind acceptance of government regulation, with NO oversight by the People, has got us EXACTLY where we are today. Control solely for controls sake.

My point by nagging you guys is you let it happen by your in action failure to respond you let it happen it is your fault

 

[layoutshooter]

My point by nagging you guys is you let it happen by your in action failure to respond you let it happen it is your fault

Let it happen? How? The regulatory agencies are now in control. Congress no longer oversees them or makes ANY attempt to control them. Even now, with a FEW congressmen talking, NOTHING is being done. Other than OODIA or the congress, we have NO voice or control. That IS how a blooming dictatorship works. The executive branch is now in control. We, the People, have no voice. What would you have is do? Other than speak at sham listening sessions or writing congress, what is there? What are YOU going to do to stop vans from being regulated?

 

[OntarioVanMan]

You the American people are supposed to control Congress ...you let it get out of Control... Our soldiers are fighting dying bloodletting to help keep our freedom and you guys are just giving it away

 

[Tennesseahawk]

My point by nagging you guys is you let it happen by your in action failure to respond you let it happen it is your fault

Sorry, but I didn't vote the a-holes in. Face it... there were many, many letters sent to FMCSA, and every one that didn't support the administration's agenda were ignored... and put on file in the NSA.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

You the American people are supposed to control Congress ...you let it get out of Control... Our soldiers are fighting dying bloodletting to help keep our freedom and you guys are just giving it away

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Sorry about that. A good BS story makes me laugh out loud.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Sometimes you have to risk losing something to maintain freedom our service people risk their lives every day what do you risk?

 

[OntarioVanMan]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Sorry about that. A good BS story makes me laugh out loud.

You're all ***** cats... You are scared of your own government

 

[layoutshooter]

You the American people are supposed to control Congress ...you let it get out of Control... Our soldiers are fighting dying bloodletting to help keep our freedom and you guys are just giving it away

Don't include me in that. I have done all I know how to do. I live in Michigan, the UAW controls our politics. I have not voted for ANYONE that is now in office, EXCEPT the guy who is my congressman now. I am no longer in Dingleberrys district. I will post his response on this issue, if get one. IF I don't, vote against him too.

I am now going to bed. I have to TRY to drive safely tomorrow. It will be easy until I take my FORCED break, THEN I will be in serious trouble. I have no idea how to battle this one. I have been like this my entire life. If you have a solution, I am ALL ears. Nothing I have ever done has ever worked. I have run around. I have all but fallen asleep while cutting fire line after a break. I have walked, drank coffee, etc etc etc. I do better without stopping till done. I also do better with longer shifts. When I was on the forest fire crew I did FAR better with a 20 hour shift than a 5 hour shift. I was less tired after 20. Don't ask me why.

 

[layoutshooter]

You're all ***** cats... You are scared of your own government

Just out to cause trouble again, eh? This is now nonsensical. It's hard to tell right now if you are a pot stirrer or a pot licker.

This is a serious issue, try to treat it as such.

 

[layoutshooter]

Sometimes you have to risk losing something to maintain freedom our service people risk their lives every day what do you risk?

When have YOU ever put your life on the line for anything? I have, more than once, go lecture the do nothings and slackers.

 

[BigCat]

I'm taking this as a joke since clearly we can't just pull into the antique shop's parking lot.

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If I was still in a S/T sure I could but what most people fail to realize when they ask "You couldnt find somewhere to park in a small town with 2 lane highways?" is that when out on 2 lanes for hours and truck stops have limited parking and grocery store lots are built in ration to the town size,then finding somewhere to park a 70' truck/trailer combo becomes impossible. It worked out today fine because I drove a 7 hour trip,did drop/hook and then went 5 miles to our Evansville,In terminal so I wasnt stressing where I would park. There were a ton of trucks rolling in here for 30 minute breaks though. We even had a swift truck try to come in our gate behind me because the shipper down the street ran him off and his break was due within minutes.

 

[Turtle]

This is a serious issue, try to treat it as such.

If that were true, then people wouldn't be talking about regulating cargo vans, because there is no reason, be it safety or control, to regulate them under the FMCSA. None. There are specific reasons the FMCSA regulates the vehicles it does, and not a single one of them apply to cargo vans.

 

[paullud]

My point by nagging you guys is you let it happen by your in action failure to respond you let it happen it is your fault

I agree with this 100%, the regulations we face today are due to us and those before us. We as a society sit back and cheer when someone else's freedom to decide is taken from them simply because we don't like what they are doing. We have unleashed a monster in this country that we may not be able to stop and will certainly continue to intrude in our personal lives if it is not stopped.

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[paullud]

If that were true, then people wouldn't be talking about regulating cargo vans, because there is no reason, be it safety or control, to regulate them under the FMCSA. None. There are specific reasons the FMCSA regulates the vehicles it does, and not a single one of them apply to cargo vans.

There is a very good reason to regulate them, they participate in interstate commerce.

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[Tennesseahawk]

Just out to cause trouble again, eh? This is now nonsensical. It's hard to tell right now if you are a pot stirrer or a pot licker.

This is a serious issue, try to treat it as such.

Don't mind him. I think he's just bumping his post count some. At least he's graduated from his multiple posts of, "Hmm" and "yes" and "wow."

 

[Turtle]

There is a very good reason to regulate them, they participate in interstate commerce.

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What does that have to do with anything? The FMCSA doesn't regulate any vehicles BECAUSE they participate in interstate commerce. They regulate the ones that do, but that's not why.

 

[paullud]

What does that have to do with anything? The FMCSA doesn't regulate any vehicles BECAUSE they participate in interstate commerce. They regulate the ones that do, but that's not why.

Participation in interstate commerce would give them oversight and a big revenue source.

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[Turtle]

Participation in interstate commerce would give them oversight and a big revenue source.

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Well, again, what does that have to to with anything? Do you have any idea how many Toyota Camrys and Ford Mustangs and Chrysler Soccer Mommy Vans participate in interstate commerce?

Is having oversight and a revenue source the reason the FMCSA regulates the vehicles they currently regulate?

 

[paullud]

Well, again, what does that have to to with anything? Do you have any idea how many Toyota Camrys and Ford Mustangs and Chrysler Soccer Mommy Vans participate in interstate commerce?

It gives the government the way in that they would need.

Is having oversight and a revenue source the reason the FMCSA regulates the vehicles they currently regulate?

No, but it is the reason the regulations that have zero to do with safety are so rampant. The federal and state governments are short on cash and also need to validate the existence of these agencies, they will need a new target soon.

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