Year over Year Comparison

[EASYTRADER]

From Jan 1 to May 19 2009 this is a surface D unit team

In Service 89.8, 40 runs


Approximate Mileage

Total 25,544
Loaded 18,189
Avg per Run 781

Revenue

Total $38,879.68
Avg per Loaded Mile $ 1.42
Avg per Mile $ 1.01



Jan 1 to May 19 2008

In Service 85%, 58 runs

Total 51,637
Loaded 42,758
Avg per Run 845

Revenue

Total $75,354.53
Avg per Loaded Mile $ 1.68
Avg per Mile $ 1.39


I suppose most of the per mile drop has been due to fuel prices. However our run count is down by 32%, which is like having taken a full month off, except we didn't.

Wow can you Imagine a 37K cut in revenue. No wonder I,ve been so grumpy and on edge.

This may be better than some of you worse than others but I thought Id let u see the real numbers.

 

[chefdennis]

Thanks! Seeing the real numbers instead of just hearing people say its bad makes a difference. I have been thinking of buying a straight truck before the end of the yr....i'll continue to "think" about it and watch the trends before i do it....

Again Thanks.....

 

[Lawrence]

I thought this thread would have seen much more activity by now. Good, hard data to review. Let's see what happens.

 

[jackdixon_2000]

Ok, I just went on the extranet and dug up my figures also.
First the disclaimers, last year I ran solo the first half of the year, only on the west coast and went home after most loads, due to my mother's terminal illness. (she passed away in April). So that makes for my significant d/h miles. My unit is a 99 KW T-300 with reefer and liftgate which I purchased for $41,000 in 2004. I am White Glove but not T-Val or DOD clearance. This year's numbers are as a team, still mostly west coast but I have taken three loads to the east and midwest. I also took a two week vacation to Hawaii in January which cut my numbers for this year.

2008 Jan 1 to May 19
63 runs
93.76% in service
Average loaded mile $3.17
Average all miles $1.52
Revenue $42,253.13

2009 Jan 1 to May 19
54 runs
88.64% in service
Average loaded mile $1.96
average all miles $1.35
Revenue $58,197.99


Revenue

 

[pjjjjj]

Easytrader I noticed that you stated that your wife left the truck and went home to take a job back in late February. Are you still running solo? I guess that will explain part of the mileage difference for same period last year?
I wondered how the fuel part of your expenses averaged against revenue, between the 2 years.
Also, I'm wondering... if you take into consideration the lost revenue by running solo compared to team, and compare it to the wages now earned by your wife instead, which model turns out better financially for you, overall? ie, you may be getting less miles, less loads, less revenue, but fuel is less and your wife earns straight take-home pay now, (less whatever expenses go with it.. (ie maybe you now need a car, gas, insurance, parking, etc? where perhaps you did not need that car before, etc.).

In other words, just wondering if you are finding your decision for your wife to leave the truck and get a job instead, is paying off for you overall, all things considered.

 

[EASYTRADER]

the wife was onl out of the truck for two weeks unemployment in california is over 11 percent evry job she applied for had hundreds of applications. So needless to say
shes back in the truck and bussiness still sucks.

our expenses have come down some I rarely if ever drive over 60mph which has brought my fuel milage from 8 to 9.5 it has also caused us to be late to pickup a few times. Something i never would have done last year.

I also used to wash the truck once a week. Now Ive washed it once all year. If we have fast food its off the value menu. But mostly we live off cereal and hotdogs. Before we used to catch the J salad bar three times a week; no more. I also added a byass filter on the truck which should cut oil expense by 90 percent or so but it wont be untill next year for the cost to recoup.

anyway it really sucks having a 2k
truck payment. If Yellow roadway shuuts its doors well all be fine but if they some how survive I suppose were screwed. There is still to much capacity. As rates do not reflect finacial reality.

The fact is after business expenses. we can pay mortage health ins and my car payment. Plus three hundre a month for groceries. Thats about 1700 a month inpersonal expenses. So basically we make less than minimum wage. Which incidently I have never done not even in youth
jobs.

LOL

If the gov bails out yellow roadway
Ill be pretty miffed.

The only goodss news is I was able to dodge the stock market crash and even playyed it on the short side with our retirement funds. Caught the bottom right on and reversed. However having said that our retirement acount is ridicously small so other than a little ego boost for market timing in reality it means little to our present situation.

Crap now my good mood is ruined.

 

[miker]

So basically we make less than minimum wage. Which incidently I have never done not even in youth
jobs.



I was just thinking the same thing yesterday, I'm 39 and have never really had a problem earning pretty good money, but it sure is different now, all I hope for is that they are right when they say 2010 makes the turn for us.

 

[ezeerider]

So basically we make less than minimum wage. Which incidently I have never done not even in youth
jobs.



I was just thinking the same thing yesterday, I'm 39 and have never really had a problem earning pretty good money, but it sure is different now, all I hope for is that they are right when they say 2010 makes the turn for us.

where do you people work making 100k you can stay out for a weeks and only do $150 if im lucky you at nei i have i was told that i would make what your sayinging but the reality is recruiters lie dispatchers lie these companies are bringing in all these trucks and cant run the ones they have which shows how much they care about you as a driver and you being able to make a decent living and there character, the truth is, people at mcdonalds make more when you add in your time spent involed in everything if you are making money your not at nations express. if you are really doing that amount of money you need to wake up and thank god for your company,oportunity and thank god agian that your not in a situation like some of us. good luck to you all drivers, and be safe out there,god bless

 

[aileron]

If you are standing, you need to sit down before reading mine, unless you want to fall...

I drive a Sprinter, good thing it is paid for.

Jan 1 - May 20 2008

Runs: 41
Total miles: 23481
Loaded miles: 10432
Average/Run: 309
Revenue: 15064.79
Average/Loaded miles: 1.39
Average/All miles: 0.62



Jan 1 - May 20 2009

Runs: 25
Total miles: 12863
Loaded miles: 4504
Average/Run: 295
Revenue: 7114.18
Average/Loaded miles: 1.05
Average/All miles: 0.37


Why in the h%$^ I haven't quit yet? Something must be wrong with me.

 

[miker]

If you are standing, you need to sit down before reading mine, unless you want to fall...

I drive a Sprinter, good thing it is paid for.

Jan 1 - May 20 2008

Runs: 41
Total miles: 23481
Loaded miles: 10432
Average/Run: 309
Revenue: 15064.79
Average/Loaded miles: 1.39
Average/All miles: 0.62



Jan 1 - May 20 2009

Runs: 25
Total miles: 12863
Loaded miles: 4504
Average/Run: 295
Revenue: 7114.18
Average/Loaded miles: 1.05
Average/All miles: 0.37


Why in the h%$^ I haven't quit yet? Something must be wrong with me.

you're right you must be crazy, FDECC can't get you any better miles than that? I don't see how anyone could live off of that, but if you enjoy what your doing, what hay!

 

[Moot]

If Yellow roadway shuuts its doors well all be fine but if they some how survive I suppose were screwed.

You lost me on this one. Could you expound on this thought?

If the gov bails out yellow roadway
Ill be pretty miffed.

I will be more than miffed! But I suspect it will be for reasons other than yours.

 

[hz909]

You mean that the remedy to a drop in revenue ISN'T to start showing up late in a filthy truck? I'll be darned.

 

[springrivergroup]

LTL rates get LTL service

 

[hz909]

LTL rates get LTL service

The opposite is equally true, as well.

Really, though, I like your logic. Those that put cheap miles on their truck while providing poor expedite service will be weeded out first, and desevedly so. Keep up it up!

 

[MYGIA]

Jan 1 – May 20 2008


Jan 1 – May 20, 2009​

Total Miles

32145


26131​

Loaded Miles

17976


14540​

Average Run

253


269​

Total Revenue

$39,539


$25506​

Revenue /Loaded Mile

$2.19


$1.75​

Revenue / Total Mile

$1.23


$.97​

In service Percentage

89.9%


92.3 %​

Number of runs: 71
54
FECC D Unit Solo Sur. Exp

 

[guido4475]

If you are standing, you need to sit down before reading mine, unless you want to fall...

I drive a Sprinter, good thing it is paid for.

Jan 1 - May 20 2008

Runs: 41
Total miles: 23481
Loaded miles: 10432
Average/Run: 309
Revenue: 15064.79
Average/Loaded miles: 1.39
Average/All miles: 0.62



Jan 1 - May 20 2009

Runs: 25
Total miles: 12863
Loaded miles: 4504
Average/Run: 295
Revenue: 7114.18
Average/Loaded miles: 1.05
Average/All miles: 0.37


Why in the h%$^ I haven't quit yet? Something must be wrong with me.

Whats with all the empty miles? Look at the difference between empty and loaded miles.HUGE DIFFERENCE.In '09 there were 8,359 empty miles.In '08 there were 13,049 empty miles.No wonder the average for all miles is so low.

 

[aileron]

Whats with all the empty miles? Look at the difference between empty and loaded miles.HUGE DIFFERENCE.In '09 there were 8,359 empty miles.In '08 there were 13,049 empty miles.No wonder the average for all miles is so low.

A lot of deadhead miles. It does not matter where I am, it takes 2 to 3 days, sometimes even more to get another load. If you catch the weekend somewhere in there, it is even more. Like right now (thurday morning), I delivered around DC. I checked everywhere around here. It is either full of vans, or no freight coming out. So, if I hang around, it will be tuesday next week before I get another load.
I figured it out that it is cheaper to to put some fuel in the tank and wait home than in a truck stop somewhere. Also, I drive my van everywhere, not only for work.
I guess a combination of the two makes up those empty miles.

 

[Dynamite 1]

not to be negative here, but i see alot of simple math in these numbers posted. what i mean by that is i see total revenue being used for loaded mile pay. does that total revenue figure have dh pay in it, cause if it does then the loaded mi pay is an exagerated number. i would think that all dh pay would need to be subtracted from the gross then that total divided by loaded miles to get a rate for loaded miles only. if my thinking is wrong please let me know cause i keep close watch on mine and i dont want to do it wrong. also what is everyone doing per mi for all mi and for loaded mi after fuel expense is taken out of gross. the last part is what will really hurt to figure w/ the expense of fuel last year. i dont have my last years availiable at this time but will post this year when i have a chance in the next few days. thanks all for your input this will help alot of people if they get good info.

 

[nightcreacher]

2008 in service 106 days from jan1 thru may 24

47000 miles,34000 loaded $82600 revenue 52 loads


2009 in service 93 days from jan 1 thru may 24

39000 miles 23000 loaded miles $59363 54 loads

my biggest difference is,I've had more time off,accounting for the greater dead head miles.