I will if I can remember. My next appointment will likely not be until March.
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I will if I can remember. My next appointment will likely not be until March.
From the scores of soldiers I've shaken hands with and given a sincere "thank you for serving" that couldn't be any more incorrect. Either that or I've met the specific scores of soldiers who are great actors and feign genuine appreciation of being shown gratitude.
denny2010
Expert Expediter
Im a combat veteran. I would rather have a hand shake and a thank you over anything else. I proudly wear stuff that states that im a veteran when at home. If on road if i see a person in uniform or a veteran sitting eating i thank them. Even may pay for there meal without them knowing who did. Once in Portsmouth a veteran was there eating i told waitress to put it on my bill and just tell him thanks. It feels good..
I come from generations of military, their accolades are their own. I did not serve because I was 4F, but I tried. My son served and my son in law still is. I know first hand what they go through, and have had to financially support both of them just so that they could eek out a meager existence. I, too am one of those people that thanks a vet when I recognize them as such, and have had nothing but a positive response. I assure you, it is heartfelt, if it is not accepted as such and you feel that it is hollow, I will cease to do so. I was born in Japan and grew up on military bases all over the place and currently work as a contractor doing back ground investigations. I see the good and the bad. The employment situation is dismal at best, but that is for everybody, not just vets. I do see vets get jobs that a civilian would have to be degreed to be acceptable for, and the vet has not taken advantage of his educational opportunities. I have also seen the camaraderie from vets to vets in the work place. Attitude is everything, if you think you are getting a raw deal, you probably are. You can choose to dwell on it or move on. Some are better at that than others. My opinion, with no study to substantiate it, is that older vets are dealing with multiple deployments, stop losses, and not being able to maintain or pay for their civilian lifestyle absent their civilian income and are losing everything. Not all companies may your wages while you are gone, or pay the difference, they may want to, but the economy will not let them. This stress, that of responsibility is different when you are older and have a family and mortgage to take care of, then if you are a single soldier just out on your own. My own son has issues, he gets frustrated because he cannot explain them, we are frustrated because we cannot help him, some days he is fine and others he is someone you don't want to be around. I don't know the answers, but you can't blame the citizens that voted in our current President, 2 X, because many, many of them were military. The bumper stickers on cars leaving a base will tell you who they voted for.
Scott
Scott
I am not sure who the "you" was in your post.
I do know that when those who served during much of the Cold War/Vietnam era that vets were often refused work because of there service. In one case I was turned down because, as the man behind the desk said, all you guys in the military are drug addicts. Another told me that he would not have "baby killers" working in his plant.
Of course there are those who are sincere about thanking vets. It has however, become just another routine greeting for others.
As to what Obama is doing, I have no doubt that IF an open investigation was done, free of government obstruction, it would be proven that this administration is harming vets with substandard care, all in the name of "saving money" or worse.
One only has to read the stories on what happened at Ft. Lewis to over 60 soldiers. It has been over two years and that mess has yet to be totally resolved. What went on in those Stryker Units there, under the direction of the administration is criminal.
I do know that when those who served during much of the Cold War/Vietnam era that vets were often refused work because of there service. In one case I was turned down because, as the man behind the desk said, all you guys in the military are drug addicts. Another told me that he would not have "baby killers" working in his plant.
Of course there are those who are sincere about thanking vets. It has however, become just another routine greeting for others.
As to what Obama is doing, I have no doubt that IF an open investigation was done, free of government obstruction, it would be proven that this administration is harming vets with substandard care, all in the name of "saving money" or worse.
One only has to read the stories on what happened at Ft. Lewis to over 60 soldiers. It has been over two years and that mess has yet to be totally resolved. What went on in those Stryker Units there, under the direction of the administration is criminal.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
First off, I wouldn't assume that everyone who evaded the draft and/or went to Canada were cowardly - there is a thing such as moral conscience.
Secondly, you might wish to revise your comments (above) to line up a little better with the historical facts, as to when amnesty (1974) and pardons (1977) were actually available to such folks ...
I did not state when amnesty took place. I got out in '73'. I was refused work because of my status. Jobs that I was not allowed to get WERE given to the cowards that ran. In '74 they were allowed to fight fire and again I was refused work. I had all of those letters until the last time my basement flooded. Letters from the Park superindendant, the Park service, congressman Dingell and several others. I sure wish I still had them. It is a piece of history that is very much under reported.
Yes, I DO call them cowards. Men of conviction stand for their beliefs. Muhammad Ali did. I did not agree with his choices but had great respect for how he stood for what he believed in, did NOT RUN away, and accepted consequences of his stance. THAT is how a MAN handles moral conscience.
You can do what ever you want. Injustice is always wrong and it should have never happened. I won't go into race, that sword has unfortunately cut both ways. Lives were disrupted in either case. I always "disparage" cowards. I have no use for those who ran.
That has no bearing on what this administration is doing to our service members.
ALL of our "momentos" were in Rubbermaid tubs. The water got so deep that they started to float, tipped and filled with water. We lost our year books, all of my pictures from the army, most of my awards, our tax records for 5 years and those letters.
I had a bunch of newspaper clippings from some of the fires I was on in the Everglades too. It was a sad time in our house.
Lost thousands of dollars worth of sporting goods as well.
Insurance covers only the house etc, no contents.
I have coverage for contents, just not when floods are involved. I can only get $10,000 in flood coverage. It only covers like if the septic tank were to over flow. In this case it was due to a sump problem.
It did suck. Losing those kinds of things is hard, but it could have been FAR worse. We were of course on the road. My nephew came by to check on the house. Had he not the water would have came up to ground water levels which would have been up almost to the top step of the basement stairs. That would have likely totaled the house. There was over two feet of water in the basement.
It did suck. Losing those kinds of things is hard, but it could have been FAR worse. We were of course on the road. My nephew came by to check on the house. Had he not the water would have came up to ground water levels which would have been up almost to the top step of the basement stairs. That would have likely totaled the house. There was over two feet of water in the basement.
Vet kills vet. Is this PTSD?
My Way News - Iraq vet charged in fatal shooting of ex-SEAL
My Way News - Iraq vet charged in fatal shooting of ex-SEAL
Who knows? A lot has to come out. Like to know if the "shooter" was on those drugs too. It would not surprise me if he was.