POLL Who Will Win the Presidential Election?

[Turtle]

Who do you think will win the presidential? (assuming the Electors go ahead and vote, like they're supposed to, based on the popular vote in their state )

As of November 5, 2016, a total of 1,836 candidates had filed a Statement of Candidacy with the Federal Election Commission. A full list of these candidates and their parties and filing dates can be found here. (The list includes such luminaries as Emperor Palpatine, Zibble the Puppet, Zorro the Cockroach, and Mister Han James Solo.)

In order to get on the ballot, a candidate for president of the United States must meet a variety of complex, state-specific filing requirements and deadlines. These regulations, known as ballot access laws, determine whether a candidate or party will appear on an election ballot. These laws are set at the state level. A presidential candidate must prepare to meet ballot access requirements well in advance of primaries, caucuses, and the general election.

Presidential candidates who have made more than 15 percent (more than 8 states) of general election ballots are listed in this poll.

 

[Moot]

Hillary Clinton. It's her destiny and nothing can stop her. She's a woman, ambitious, a Democrat, wife of a former President, ruthless, former Senator, former Secretary of State, woman, author, humanitarian, victim, woman, former lawyer, tyrant, woman and she enlists the services of Swervpro, just like her husband does. It's in the bag!
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[Yowpuggy]

Hillary is going to win, not because of Hillary but because angry Republicans chose Trump.


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[Yowpuggy]

Trump would have won this election in a landslide if he didn't shun everyone but white folks. The Republican Party need to move into the 21st Century or they will never see the Presidency again.


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[JohnWC]

Who has he put down because you think that one person or 1 group is wrong that doesn't mean the whole race is bad that is racism the same with sex that's sexism but there is good and bad in all races and sex it's the individual not the not the race or sex

 

[RoadTime]

Too close to call for me. I can see it going either way

 

[Turtle]

Who has he put down because you think that one person or 1 group is wrong that doesn't mean the whole race is bad that is racism the same with sex that's sexism but there is good and bad in all races and sex it's the individual not the not the race or sex

Exactly. When Trump called Hillary a nasty woman, the Borg Collective hive mind of the liberal SJW snowflakes crapped themselves on social media and in the mainstream media, immediately assigning meaning that he was a sexiest misogynist (the SJW feminist's version of Hitler).

Yet these same social justice warriors remained utterly silent when Trump called Ted Cruz "a nasty guy" on multiple occasions, as well as when he called The Washington Post’s David Fahrenthold, and Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, the exact same "nasty guy."

There is simply no rationality in labeling Trump a sexiest or a misogynist because he called Hillary a nasty woman.

 

[Yowpuggy]

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[Moot]

Where there's a plastic surgeon there's a customer.

 

[Yowpuggy]

You'll be seeing that face for eight year.get used to it


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[JohnWC]

You'll be seeing that face for eight year.get used to it


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8 years guses I'm moving to Australia because there won't be anything left here but ashes

 

[Yowpuggy]

They said the same thing when Obama was elected but we're still here.


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[Turtle]

They said the same thing when Obama was elected but we're still here.

Yeah, but, yeah, but, that was the most important election in our lifetimes. If we elect Obama, Democracy is over and the world as we know it will end. Same with Romney. Western civilization is nearing collapse, regardless of who holsters up and swaggers into the White House in January, be it Obama, Romney, Trump or Hillary. This is precisely what you’re supposed to think. You’re supposed to think everything is falling apart. You’re supposed to believe that life has never been worse.

Things are falling apart and things have never been worse!

Except for every other presidential election in history, which were all just as bad and things were falling apart in exactly the same way.

But, but, BUT, never before has the country been so divided!

Because, you know, we all held hands and sang Kumbaya during the Civil War, and the 1960s, and during every other election, except this one and the Obama ones. Right?

As Mark Twain once wrote, "History may not repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

You think the Founding Fathers were all best friends and had sleepovers and vacationed together? No. Presidential and Congressional politics is exactly the same right now as it has always been. Only the names have changed. The rhetoric is the same The viciousness is the same. The lies and accusations are the same. The Press is the same. It all rhymes with everything that has ever happened before.

As was noted in an excellent article in The Washington Post (I had to take 3 Dramamine and a dose of Nyquil to be able to type that with a straight face, which is no longer straight), Trump is right about the system being rigged. But it's not rigged in quite the same way that he thinks. It's rigged in exactly the same way it's always been, only now with more tech. The ecosystem of media, political consultants, producers, politicians and propagandists have rigged the game against The People - and it’s working perfectly. Everyone’s in on the same game (except maybe Trump, but the case is still open on that), which is essentially to ensure that The People gobble up what they’ve been serving - and what they’re serving is resentment, fear and anger. It's good politics.

Sure, people were upset about stuff. But what we feel now was mass-produced by a propaganda industry that profits most when people are worked up. It's how a comment from Trump about grabbing kittens - "When you're a celebrity, they let you do it" - immediately gets crafted and presented as an actual admission of sexual assault, despite the fact that "they let you do it" is explicit consent. But no one batted an eye. And isn't that interesting. Trump insults women, and blacks, and Muslims, and Mexicans, and every other group. Except he really didn't. But that's the good politics of fear, resentment and anger that this country was founded on and has continued to subsist upon to this day.

It is incumbent upon the readers, the viewers, the citizens, The People, to recognize this crap when they see it, and recognize it for what it is. And then go on about our lives. Western civilization didn't end with Obama. Nor did Democracy. Nor did the sky fall. Ever since probably high school, when I took an interest in learning about politics and government, I realized, and have been saying all these years, "there's only just..so..much..damage that one person can do as president." That's because of the checks and balances of our system of government, and because of The People. I freely admit that Obama has stretched, bent, folded, stapled and spindled my thoughts on just how limited the damage can be from one president, but we're still here, so I'm sticking to it. It's not going to be a smooth ride no matter if it's Hillary or Trump, but then again we aren't likely to go down in flames, either.

 

[Moot]

Hillary is going to win, not because of Hillary but because angry Republicans chose Trump.

Trump would have won this election in a landslide if he didn't shun everyone but white folks.

So which one is it?

 

[Pilgrim]

The momentum seems to be in Trump's favor, and the media seems to be reluctantly acknowledging this. Also, the youth and black voters simply won't turn out to vote for Hillary like they did for Obama. The dead won't make any difference because IL and NY will go Democrat no matter what.

 

[Yowpuggy]

Hispanics is going to make the difference this time around. He'll need more than momentum at rallies to win this one.


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[Moot]

Hispanics is going to make the difference this time around. He'll need more than momentum at rallies to win this one.


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They is?

 

[Turtle]

Hector Hispanics

 

[Turtle]

So, during this election we've had so many bombshells that we're more or less shell-shocked and don't even notice them anymore. I guess the only thing left is for this to become "The Faithless Electors Election" where the Electors we elect on Tuesday to cast the actual votes ignore the voting numbers in their state and just vote for whoever they want.

We already have two Electors in Washington State indicating that they're not gonna vote for Hillary. One of them says it in much stronger terms than a mere indication, when he flatly states, "she will not get my vote, period." The other one says he's not yet made up his mind, but he's strongly considering not voting for Hillary.

Contrary to popular belief, the Electors really and truly can cast their vote for whoever they want, including someone not even on the ballot, or even cast a blank ballot. 29 states (and the District of Columbia) have laws that bind the Electors to cast their vote for the candidate that wins the statewide popular vote. 21 states have no legal constraints on their Electors at all. But even in those 29, at most it's a $1000 fine, and even at that, if challenged, the law punishing a Faithless Elector would almost certainly be ruled unconstitutional.

Over the years, in 22 different elections, 179 electors failed to cast their vote as prescribed by their state legislatures. Of those, 71 Electors changed their votes because the candidate to whom they were pledged died before the electoral ballot (1872, 1912). Two Electors chose to abstain from voting for any candidate (1812, 2000). The remaining 106 were changed by the Elector's personal preference (or perhaps by accident). Usually, the faithless electors act alone. An exception was the 1836 election, in which all 23 Virginia electors acted together and abstained from casting any votes at all for the Vice President.

So, even after the vote on Tuesday is tallied, we could still have another bombshell between then and December that could cause the Electors to vote for someone other than what is expected. What fun!

 

[Moot]

Hector Hispanics

Sí! But what about Pedro?
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