Who should be Romney's VP ?

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
Guys... New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is not going to be a vice-presidential nominee. Why? Have you seen the Governor? The man is morbidly obese. His health should be of great concern to those around him. With Christie being approximately 50 years old and in excess of 300 pounds, his near-term prognosis is tenuous. Unless he manages to lose weight and become healthier, there's no point in looking at a long-term scenario. His weight is killing him and that's unfortunate. Christie is a talented politician. Hope he can turn his health around soon.
 

cableguymn

Seasoned Expediter
Guys... New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is not going to be a vice-presidential nominee. Why? Have you seen the Governor? The man is morbidly obese. His health should be of great concern to those around him. With Christie being approximately 50 years old and in excess of 300 pounds, his near-term prognosis is tenuous. Unless he manages to lose weight and become healthier, there's no point in looking at a long-term scenario. His weight is killing him and that's unfortunate. Christie is a talented politician. Hope he can turn his health around soon.


In other news.. Former vice president (71) Dick Cheney receives a new heart...

Not that I want Christie as VP (hell.. I don't want Romney either!) to say that being fat is more of a health risk than Cheney's heart.. well.. that dog can't get off the porch to hunt.
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
In other news.. Former vice president (71) Dick Cheney receives a new heart...

Not that I want Christie as VP (hell.. I don't want Romney either!) to say that being fat is more of a health risk than Cheney's heart.. well.. that dog can't get off the porch to hunt.

Christie is beyond fat. Being morbidly obese is a very serious medical condition. Complications from obesity wreak havoc as one ages. If Christie seeks bariatric care, he might be able to resume a healthy lifestyle. An actuary could calculate, to a high level of accuracy, the life expectancy of a 50 year-old male who weighs between 300-400 pounds. It isn't good at all. If Christie was trying to buy life insurance or health insurance, in his present condition, he might find himself uninsurable. Christie is in very poor health. Lets hope he gets well.
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
In other news.. Former vice president (71) Dick Cheney receives a new heart...

Not that I want Christie as VP (hell.. I don't want Romney either!) to say that being fat is more of a health risk than Cheney's heart.. well.. that dog can't get off the porch to hunt.
Cableguy.... truth is, Chris Christie can't get off the porch to hunt. I doubt Chris Christie could play badminton, croquet or billiards without several rest breaks. For a multitude of reasons, no one in Christie's poor shape will be on a Democrat or GOP national ticket. Ain't happening.
 

Brisco

Expert Expediter
Hell aristotle....why don't you just come out and say you don't like Governor Christie??? I'd rather you just be straight forward with your opinion with your dislike towards him over the blabbering nonsense we just had to read about with concerns to his weight.

I am quite sure we will see a different Governor Christie here in the next year or 2. Will he get his weight down to the size of a fornicating with the interns "Playboy President" as Clinton was?? Probably not.....but that doesn't mean he won't be electable.

I guarantee you that if Christie threw his hat in the Ring today, as either Mitts VP pick or as the next Republican Candidate, that both Obawa & Biden will be updating their resumes to find employment coming next January. And, he won't even have to go on a diet to do so.
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Hell aristotle....why don't you just come out and say you don't like Governor Christie??? I'd rather you just be straight forward with your opinion with your dislike towards him over the blabbering nonsense we just had to read about with concerns to his weight.
Brisco,

Well, when one considers the rotundness of a good number of those who have been elected to not the Office of Vice President, but the actual Office of President, it does seem just a tad .... misplaced .... to say the least ....

However, I can't say that I'm entirely surprised by the shallow focus on an individual's physical characteristics ...... rather than on the philosophy they espouse or their personal character .....

That is, after all, largely how we got into the mess that we're in ....

I guarantee you that if Christie threw his hat in the Ring today, as either Mitts VP pick or as the next Republican Candidate, that both Obawa & Biden will be updating their resumes to find employment coming next January. And, he won't even have to go on a diet to do so.
Yeah, well ... I wouldn't get my hopes up too much on that ....

As much as I would like to see Obama & Biden exit stage left, there ain't no guarantee possible that it will actually happen ....

In fact, based on events thus far in the Republican primary, I'd say it is less likely than ever ....
 

Brisco

Expert Expediter
Brisco,

Well, when one considers the rotundness of a good number of those who have been elected to not the Office of Vice President, but the actual Office of President, it does seem just a tad .... misplaced .... to say the least ....

I agree...........(Oh Gawd!!)

This isn't concerning "Recent" Presidents....but recent Leaders of Countries.....Areil Sharon was a Great Leader as PM of Isreal up until his stroke. He had weight issues all his life and lived with those weight issues up until his stroke at age 76. (??77??)

However, I can't say that I'm entirely surprised by the shallow focus on an individual's physical characteristics ...... rather than on the philosophy they espouse or their personal character .....

That is, after all, largely how we got into the mess that we're in ....

Don't understand this at all......... Sure, aristotle has taken the Liberal Talking Points that cover his weight since they cannot discount all the greatness that has come from Christie since he has become Governor of NJ. Kinda sounds like you're still blaming Bush for what's happening today after 3 years of this "Donkey" (ooops....I didn't say that did I?? :) ) we've had in office now. Hope not....if so.....oh well.


Yeah, well ... I wouldn't get my hopes up too much on that ....

As much as I would like to see Obama & Biden exit stage left, there ain't no guarantee possible that it will actually happen ....

In fact, based on events thus far in the Republican primary, I'd say it is less likely than ever ....

And...that is a WORRY I have too!! It does look like, there's a great possibility, that America will be suffering for 4-5 more years. But, if this does happen....Christie will step up in 2016 with Gloves OFF to repair America back to it's once glorious state. Know what I mean.
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
Chris Christie will never be on a GOP national ticket. Period. Nor should he be. His weight and health issues aside, Christie sings mainly from a socially liberal hymnal. That's two strikes against him. Sure, Ann Coulter loves the guy and that alone should dismiss her conservative pretense.

It's unpopular to say, but too many American voters choose a candidate based on physical appearance. Abraham Lincoln could not get elected today, in the age of television. Nor could Winston Churchill, if he were an American politician. Nor can Chris Christie for aesthetic reasons. Not saying it's fair. I don't share Christie's socially liberal views. New Jersey voters, along with the New England states, seem to prefer a socially liberal/economic conservative. Christie's social liberalism cannot be sold to a national GOP audience which is much more socially conservative than he is. At best, Christie can remain harmlessly as a governor or seek a cabinet post.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Good thing that Lincoln could not get elected today. He was as hard or harder on the Constitution than the bum in chief we have today!

We need an AMERICAN in that office. One that loves and respects our Constitution. We do no have that now and will not have come November.
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
I agree...........(Oh Gawd!!)
See there - that really wasn't so bad was it ? :D

This isn't concerning "Recent" Presidents .... but recent Leaders of Countries ..... Areil Sharon was a Great Leader as PM of Isreal up until his stroke. He had weight issues all his life and lived with those weight issues up until his stroke at age 76. (??77??)
Valid point re: his weight (and age) ..... without addressing the fundamental question of whether Sharon was a "great leader" .... or just a criminal terrorist .... (scope out what "Unit 101" was .... Sharon was the "founder" and an active member)

Don't understand this at all.........
Well, lemme see if I can clear it up:

Reliance on appearance versus substance has led to a wide variety of problems throughout man's history ....

This has gotten particularly bad within the last 40 years with the advent of modern media .....

Sure, aristotle has taken the Liberal Talking Points that cover his weight since they cannot discount all the greatness that has come from Christie since he has become Governor of NJ.
Are you really surprised at that ?

Kinda sounds like you're still blaming Bush for what's happening today after 3 years of this "Donkey" (ooops....I didn't say that did I?? :) ) we've had in office now. Hope not....if so.....oh well.
With respect to this matter, and my comments about it, quite frankly Bush never crossed my mind ....

But since you brought it up - yes, he did pave the way for some of Obama actions ....

I doubt whether he did what he did (or not) would have made much difference in terms of Obama's actions domestically .... O was gonna do what he was gonna do regardless ....

And...that is a WORRY I have too!! It does look like, there's a great possibility, that America will be suffering for 4-5 more years. But, if this does happen .... Christie will step up in 2016 with Gloves OFF to repair America back to it's once glorious state. Know what I mean.
I do know what you mean .... I don't necessarily agree with it (as regards "repairing America to it's once glorious state")

It's my belief that we have essentially one last chance to render a course correction .... for sheer, basic survival .... and that time is now ....

Even with the correct actions at this time, the outcome is far from assured ....

And if it don't happen now, it probably never will ....

The reasons for this are many, and most them have to do with external forces which we are having, and will have, increasingly less influence and control over .....

The time to repair the problem was really about 30 or 40 years ago ....
 
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RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Good thing that Lincoln could not get elected today. He was as hard or harder on the Constitution than the bum in chief we have today!
Kudos to you for having the courage to say it ....

The position is not particularly popular within the kult of Abraham ....

We need an AMERICAN in that office. One that loves and respects our Constitution.
Indeed ....

We do no have that now and will not have come November.
Certainly not now .... as for November, all one can do is hope .... and do whatever one thinks that could make it happen ....
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
We have no leaders in this country today. At least none have come forward.

As to whether some one is a 'leader' or a 'terrorist', that is only determined by who wins or loses and who writes the history. It is almost never that black and white.

The ability to see that requires the temper of reality. All realities. Few have that. It requires far more first hand experience than most humans can fit in, in one life time.

Humans are both saints and sinners.

There are a few who lean towards one more than the other, some even excel at evil. Fewer yet excel at good.

Yet, overall, the good tends to overcome the evil, in the long run. It is never as clean as many want it to be. It never will be.
 

cableguymn

Seasoned Expediter
We have no leaders in this country today. At least none have come forward.

The problem with the real leaders is that they are to smart to run for office. Look at the meat grinder known has the press. got a speeding ticket 40 years ago? you'll be reminded. Got divorced? No worries, they'll find her and she'll remind you why you broke up. kick a puppy at 12? They will find a photo. If you happen to be Jesus Christ himself they will just make something up.

Real leaders also tend not to be ego maniacs (trump and the such are exceptions) and don't like the spot light.

I'm not all that bright. but i am smart enough to know that if I brought my views of how to fix the nation I'd be hiding with George Zimmerman in Cheney's old undisclosed location.

The founders never envisioned a media that would take a side.
 

Tennesseahawk

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