PantherPower
Seasoned Expediter
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What's Up With This???
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Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
This thread sums up the reason I don't want that quallcop on my truck.
"If I claim to be a wise man, it surely means that I don't know." - Kansas
"If I claim to be a wise man, it surely means that I don't know." - Kansas
Thats refreshing Hawk. Doing the 10 or 11 straight thru these days?? The neat thing I guess is Kenny was happy with the outcome of this boondoggle. Thats good. He's safe and happy, and, some other po schmo had to get outa bed in the middle o the nite and bail him out for the few miles (scraps) that were left. Maybe he'll get it returned someday. Maybe not. However if I were that schmo, or, the dispatcher, Kenny would be etched in my memory for a while. Does very few know even how to even "spell" team anymore, let alone be one?? Unfortuneately, I think not.
Here again I think it is the driver's call as to whether a run can be completed on time and ran safely.
We run some of our own loads and we set our times without even talking to dispatch. Some are tighter schedule wise and some aren't.
The point is, linking the dispatcher to whether you have time or not is rediculous.
If the driver can't make the call or figure it out, he/she shouldn't be driving.
If something happens during the trip, then the carrier has to make their calls to adjust to the problem.
I really don't see anything complicated in this.
Davekc
owner
22 years
PantherII
EO moderator
We run some of our own loads and we set our times without even talking to dispatch. Some are tighter schedule wise and some aren't.
The point is, linking the dispatcher to whether you have time or not is rediculous.
If the driver can't make the call or figure it out, he/she shouldn't be driving.
If something happens during the trip, then the carrier has to make their calls to adjust to the problem.
I really don't see anything complicated in this.
Davekc
owner
22 years
PantherII
EO moderator
Steve
On this, Panther is set up alittle different than the Fed. He can accept the load, but indicate on the QC he can't complete it. There is even a screen that asks that question. That puts everything in motion to set up a transfer etc. I do agree dispatch/safety should have realized the milage and looked at a swap even though the driver agreed initially he could complete it.
Or at least that is my understanding. Anything else, the driver could have refused it without penalty.
Davekc
owner
22 years
PantherII
EO moderator
On this, Panther is set up alittle different than the Fed. He can accept the load, but indicate on the QC he can't complete it. There is even a screen that asks that question. That puts everything in motion to set up a transfer etc. I do agree dispatch/safety should have realized the milage and looked at a swap even though the driver agreed initially he could complete it.
Or at least that is my understanding. Anything else, the driver could have refused it without penalty.
Davekc
owner
22 years
PantherII
EO moderator
Let's contribute to the thread without insulting anyone.
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PantherPower
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I guess some people may need to re-read some of this thread. I DID say no to the safe/legal question and that's when they were caught off-gaurd. I knew before they did that I couldn't make the whole run. That's what this whole post was about; How can they be surprised when a driver says that he can't do a run that far exceeds their rule of thumb of 517 miles in 11 hours.
Bail me out?? How is that? Because I took a run I couldn't complete on my own without running illegally? So the first driver is at fault for the run being more than he/she can run legally in 11 hours? Well I never looked at it that way. I guess next time I get the second half of a swap, I'll be rude to the other guy because I have to bail him out at 0-dark-thirty.
As to me being etched in their memory...good, I hope I am. Because I could have said nothing and ran out of hours on the side of the highway and left them with a real problem on thier hands. Instead, I was being a TEAM PLAYER and alerting them to the fact that I would run out of hours BEFORE it got to that point. Obviously they had no clue or they wouldn't have been so surprised. Besides, the other driver was more than happy to take the "scraps" because it got him moving after sitting for a day. Would he have been happier to look for me on some off-ramp and do the swap there?
I have gotten my fair share of the short end of the run, too. I've had plenty of doing all the deadhead, paying all the tolls, and passing the torch to the other guy who gets all the good miles.
Apparently I should accept a 650 mile run and just keep my mouth shut. I'll just go until I have to shut down and send them a message telling them where I'm at and let them worry about it. Yeah, that's the way to do it.
Bail me out?? How is that? Because I took a run I couldn't complete on my own without running illegally? So the first driver is at fault for the run being more than he/she can run legally in 11 hours? Well I never looked at it that way. I guess next time I get the second half of a swap, I'll be rude to the other guy because I have to bail him out at 0-dark-thirty.
As to me being etched in their memory...good, I hope I am. Because I could have said nothing and ran out of hours on the side of the highway and left them with a real problem on thier hands. Instead, I was being a TEAM PLAYER and alerting them to the fact that I would run out of hours BEFORE it got to that point. Obviously they had no clue or they wouldn't have been so surprised. Besides, the other driver was more than happy to take the "scraps" because it got him moving after sitting for a day. Would he have been happier to look for me on some off-ramp and do the swap there?
I have gotten my fair share of the short end of the run, too. I've had plenty of doing all the deadhead, paying all the tolls, and passing the torch to the other guy who gets all the good miles.
Apparently I should accept a 650 mile run and just keep my mouth shut. I'll just go until I have to shut down and send them a message telling them where I'm at and let them worry about it. Yeah, that's the way to do it.
That question has to be asked when it is because you can't know ahead of time that the stupid shipper is going to delay you 4 hours making your originally possible run now impossible. Granted, if the offer is 812 miles to a solo you know the answer is no at the load offer but if it's 512 miles with full hours the answer is yes and 512 with a 4 hour shipper delay makes the answer no. This is all based on a solo operator just like the original post of course.
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redhotxpress
Seasoned Expediter
maybe it could be done, maybe not. depends on quite a few "what if's" like what if i'm delayed at the shipper, what if i'm delayed in traffic. etc, etc. i just wouldn't want to keep getting the message...."you're showing a delay...please advise"!!!!
Broompilot
Veteran Expediter
He never gave city to city points only NC to IN. Living in Charlotte I run this ALL OF THE TIME... WV Turnpike sometimes but prefere to avoid it going to IN.
Raliegh different story yes your gona have to do it. But what I admire about a straight truck is climbing those hills while 18 wheelers are just cresting while we are already up the next hill and not speeding at that!
This is not bragging, but I do this run all of the time in the legal time given, NC to IN thus what I am saying is YES I will do it and Love doing it.
Your route you gave is so far off from point to point. Why would you head back South after driving North? I 64 runs you 40+ miles South from entering it in Charleston dumping you South of Lexington? Why would you not run US 35 thru Dayton than over to IN? Prefered Route fastest route 40-75-bottom loop of Cinci up to 74 into Indy? NC 70 speedlimit except in the Gourge, TN 70 except K town, KY 65 IN 60 or is it 65? Thus no problem doing it and saving time. Fewer Mtns and no tolls.
But before critizing none of knows the point to point only State to State. My 2 cents for what its worth.
Raliegh different story yes your gona have to do it. But what I admire about a straight truck is climbing those hills while 18 wheelers are just cresting while we are already up the next hill and not speeding at that!
This is not bragging, but I do this run all of the time in the legal time given, NC to IN thus what I am saying is YES I will do it and Love doing it.
Your route you gave is so far off from point to point. Why would you head back South after driving North? I 64 runs you 40+ miles South from entering it in Charleston dumping you South of Lexington? Why would you not run US 35 thru Dayton than over to IN? Prefered Route fastest route 40-75-bottom loop of Cinci up to 74 into Indy? NC 70 speedlimit except in the Gourge, TN 70 except K town, KY 65 IN 60 or is it 65? Thus no problem doing it and saving time. Fewer Mtns and no tolls.
But before critizing none of knows the point to point only State to State. My 2 cents for what its worth.
Well Broom, that's what happens to those who work for the safety department. I don't care how he drove it, something will happen and he will be over by at least a half hour or more. In that case, I would have run it and worry about the rest later... TSES will put the xfer right on the load offer- if it's not there, and I think it's possible, I run it! However, 674 miles won't happen...
nightcreacher
Veteran Expediter
broom,how he is going to average 60+ mph on rt 35 thru wva and oh,be hard enough runnning the I64,and the dbL A isnt any better
i know you guys in the straight trucks go up hill faster than most tractor trailers,but to average 60 you have to run 10 over that,and from nc to in,there are to many places you wont even get to run 60 let alone the 70
be glad your not at the fed,you'd be talking to safety about speed daily
i know you guys in the straight trucks go up hill faster than most tractor trailers,but to average 60 you have to run 10 over that,and from nc to in,there are to many places you wont even get to run 60 let alone the 70
be glad your not at the fed,you'd be talking to safety about speed daily
nightcreacher
Veteran Expediter
I've got a question about all of this,are you permitted to average 62 mph in states with 55 speed limits,or 45 speed limits on parts of rt35 in wva,and oh, where you have going thru a small cities.
part of this thread is on this guy cause he said he couldnt do it,then I also read where it can be done.Yes you might be abe to do it,but if you do,you wont be legal.
part of this thread is on this guy cause he said he couldnt do it,then I also read where it can be done.Yes you might be abe to do it,but if you do,you wont be legal.