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The difference would be if the fsc is subject to being changed after the fact. I had a few times where a job was accepted with a high enough fsc to make it a good job and when it paid the fsc was half or less of the agreed amount. So based on that if it's .75 plus .15fsc subject to whatever compared to .90 all in I'll take the .90 all in.
Charles, that is a real time question for the mathmaticly challenged. Back when I was trying to recruit drivers they had been used to running for 60% of about a buck fifty (Contractor rate). I was paying 50% of two buks (Carrier rate).
Nope! They ain't running for no lousy 50% I heard many times.
Nope! They ain't running for no lousy 50% I heard many times.
and some are insulted when they call them stupid truck drivers...some make hard to dispute...
Should have told that group 100 percent of nothing. Then you would have had them lined out the door.
ChrisGa23
Expert Expediter
shhhh dont give them any ideas haha
moose
Veteran Expediter
Don't worry ,
they won't take it away .
it gives them the opportunity to cheat off the costumer and contractor at the same time... L.O.L
they make a truckload of money out of it.
and everyone happy .
it makes somewhat seance ,sometimes in the truckloads ,but merely never in Expedite .
they won't take it away .
it gives them the opportunity to cheat off the costumer and contractor at the same time... L.O.L
they make a truckload of money out of it.
and everyone happy .
it makes somewhat seance ,sometimes in the truckloads ,but merely never in Expedite .
There's not much difference to the driver, other than what Leo stated, but there are some differences from an accounting point of view of the paying party. They often go on different spots on the ledger, some companies use one as a fixed expense and the other as variable. Some customers have contracts in place for that reason, and to keep surcharges relatively stable, depending on the price of fuel rather than a percentage of the load. That's why we have it in expediting. Also, depending on the carrier and how they pay out, it can make a big difference to the driver. If the FSC is lumped into the overall pay, and they pay 60%, then they're only paying 60% of the FSC, as well.
moose
Veteran Expediter
Last time I'v checked , Expedite is a per Load operation .
in traditional transportation ,FCS came to play to offset operations costs resulted from a change in fuel prices over the length of the contract.
when fuel prices are stabilized - there is no need for a FCS ,because the contractor know 'going in' the cost of moving the freight .
not many Expedited Loads are a long enough term of contract to justified implication of FCS .
if the CARRIER have a FCS in place with dedicated costumers ,it's HIS marketing problem .
BUT ,there's no place for FCS to be a part of the Carrier contractor contract .
as stated in the OP ,just tell me how mach it pays to move the freight .
what amazezed me the most ,is that so many Expediters allow the carrier to skim them out ,to the point that the few,very few,carriers that's 'do it right' have a real hard time recruiting contractors .
in traditional transportation ,FCS came to play to offset operations costs resulted from a change in fuel prices over the length of the contract.
when fuel prices are stabilized - there is no need for a FCS ,because the contractor know 'going in' the cost of moving the freight .
not many Expedited Loads are a long enough term of contract to justified implication of FCS .
if the CARRIER have a FCS in place with dedicated costumers ,it's HIS marketing problem .
BUT ,there's no place for FCS to be a part of the Carrier contractor contract .
as stated in the OP ,just tell me how mach it pays to move the freight .
what amazezed me the most ,is that so many Expediters allow the carrier to skim them out ,to the point that the few,very few,carriers that's 'do it right' have a real hard time recruiting contractors .