Whats a C unit making

[targuard86]

Can someone give me an idea of what a driver of a fleet owned C unit is making per mile if they get 60% plus fuel. I realize its a moving target but I'm just looking for an idea. Also what % of your total miles is loaded?

 

[LDB]

If it's signed with Panther, Express-1, Con-Way etc. that pay per loaded mile it's going to be 60% of $1.05-1.10 plus the fsc. Base would be 63-66cpm and fsc could be anything from 0-30cpm with the occasional home run of 30+ cpm. I'd estimate the overall avg. fsc around 15cpm so I'd estimate a C unit at 80cpm for loaded miles. Deadhead depends on who you're with. In a D unit my dh for 2005 runs 17%. I believe my dh percentage is low compared to a lot of guys but don't know that for a fact. If it's with FedEx or others that pay a percentage of revenue I have no information on that.


Leo Bricker
OOIDA 677319
truck 4958
73's K5LDB
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[RichM]

Are those rates accurate? Seems quite low for a C Unit. I would think loaded miles would be at a $1.15 or so not 60% of $1.05. B Units seems to make .77 per mile with Panther so wouldn't a C make more..

 

[davekc]

C units at Panther pay 1.10 plus FSC.

Davekc

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Rich... he's asking what a driver would make driving a c-unit, not what a c makes.

 

[TeamDrivers2]

>Can someone give me an idea of what a driver of a fleet
>owned C unit is making per mile if they get 60% plus fuel.
>I realize its a moving target but I'm just looking for an
>idea. Also what % of your total miles is loaded?

11 Months as a EX-"D" unit that converted to a "C".

Honestly ? I make more now under a "C" unit. And thats the Gods truth.

FECC - Express

Averaging $1.29 to $1.95 per mile - Not including FSC $$'s.

4,290 avg miles per week based on last 44 weeks. 14% deadhead.

So if you wer'e my co-driver you'd make 20% of the above weekly averages.

Or 60% of above weekly averages if you were to team with another driver.

 

[terryandrene]

targuard86

Teamdriver is a good example of a team with lots of hustle; however, his high revenue, I believe, is an anomaly and you should expect to gross, to the truck, about $125K-150K, in the beginning. A typical team would get to share 60% of that.

Terry

 

[bigguy1001]

Not all carriers refer to all truck sizes the same. At Panther an A unit is a cargo van and it pays .77 cpm. A B unit is dock high and can haul at least 5000 lbs and it pays 1.10. A C & D unit pay the same at 1.20 and can haul at least 10,000. FYI.

 

[RichM]

Team drivers,Have just done the math and I have to admire your dedication. Going by your figures you did 188,760 miles in 44 weeks,average of 612 miles every day.
You stated that 14% was deadhead giving you loaded miles of 162,334 for the 44 weeks. Based on what you said you were paid I looked at a average pay of $1.50 per loaded mile. This works out to $243,501 gross for 44 weeks, not too shabby.
Perhaps some figure was multipled twice.

 

[davekc]

I agree. Those numbers don't sound right. Too many other drivers are talking about discount loads and the implication that one was never ran seems odd. I don't drive for Fedex but I am with Rich and Terry, it would be a rare occurance.
Then again, we have a member that claims he makes over $3.00 a loaded mile.
Are you using the same calculator as the Ateam? If so, no explanation is warranted.
Funny how I personally look for broker freight for my drivers, and I don't see these loads. At .58 percent that means your carrier is charging $3.00 per mile for the load plus FSC. Certain white glove loads they are charging above that, but for an average on a "C" unit?
I will go with Terry's and Rich's thoughts.
A anomoly is a good description.

Davekc
owner
21 years

 

[jackdixon_2000]

Hello all
Been awhile since I posted but thought I would throw my 2 cents in here. People talk about anomalies and hustling and that may be the case with "teamdrivers" but it is also very possible to achieve the production he states. I don't know if they are White Glove with a reefer or not? That makes a big difference.

The fact is it has been a pretty good year for expediting and you can't really expect these numbers to continue year after year. I got on the extranet today and downloaded my numbers for the year.

Here is my personal situation. My codriver is off for the winter from Jan 1 to April 1 in which I run solo in Calif. We then run team and occasionally will go east of the Miss. but over 90% of my runs are in the west. Now, I am DR4270 I do have a liftgate and reefer paletjack pads etc but am NOT white glove. (jus a personal preference even though I am sacrificing revenue)I do get home many weekends but also stay available most of the time and do hustle when I am out there. Ok, here are my numbers

Some people were complaining about the run offers when the "contest" started, so I will start with my "contest" numbers from Sept 6 to Nov 23 when it ended (the last 2 weeks I was running the system back east)

49 runs....10 refusals...in service 96.38%...load acceptance 83.05%...
loaded miles 29,625... revenue$50,203.85...average per loaded mile$1.69(an empty "bogus" run from Houston to Reno, 1900 miles at .30
a mile before thanksgiving hurt that average)So anyway I am qualified for the $10,000 prize and will see what happens.

Now since Jan 1 to Nov 30 (of which 3 months were solo)and all west coast

189 runs... 36 refusals...in service 90.69%... 1.89 loaded mile... 72,054 loaded miles...$136,533.96

Another example, my old truck which is now owned by "Ed" said it was ok to post his figures also. He is a solo operator D unit for fecc surface expedite with a lift gate and palletjack but no reefer, he is out of Indy and stays in the system. Here are his "contest" numbers Sept 6 to Nov. 23

52 runs... 9 refusals... acceptance 85.25%...loaded rate $1.81....in service 95.2%....loaded miles 18,253.....revenue $33,013.75

Now, these numbers are above average but what you make is dependent on how much you wanna stay out there and work. I like to let my numbers speak for themselves, not braggin or complainin, just let people see some real world figures and deceide for themselves or make comparisons

 

[TeamDrivers2]

Yes JackDixon - You Are Correct

Its absolutly possible and i'm NOT the only "C" unit posting those kinda figures. -$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s-

I explained in a previous post WHY I switched from a "D" to a "C". Mama didn't raise no dumb-arse and you can bank on that fellers. I was also taught never to lie and only exagerate with numbers when it was in reference to certain body parts.

NO "trick" calculaters were used ---as was insultingling implied---

Excel was used from day one and my records are impeccable. Actual miles driven for that period were 149,545.

You were close on paid miles Karnack , as paid miles were actually $1.54.

No slight of hand here folks. I run hard, but i run smart. I'll admit my results could be viewed as "above average" , but then again , i'm not your typical driver. I invested a serious amount of money and i expect a serious amount of return on that investment.

 

[davekc]

I was a little too hard on you. Sorry about that. There has been some recent posts that have been alittle misleading.
New folks can interpret the information incorrectly without all the facts.
Your averages don't reflect a typical average for a "C" unit but you addressed that.
The other issue is you don't mention as to whether this is a reefer truck, white glove, liftgate ect.
Obviously, that would play a major part in those numbers.
You said you made a significant investment......so does that mean it is a temp truck?

Davekc

 

[TeamDrivers2]

Since none of us are privy to actual unit averages, my guess is that there are alot more "C"s making those kinda numbers than you'd think.

I've done the "D" thing, and found out almost immediatly I wasn't seeing "C"s sitting around. I had the chance to speak to a couple of O/O's of "C"s and got their story. I always knew 95% of my loads were always occupying less than 50% of my box. I guess then it just clicked - the fella's running "C"s were walking off with the "D" loads. Probably the reason i wasn't seeing um sitting around.

Plain and simple mathmatics - I'll always have more offers cause virtually every single "D" offer actually can be hauled by a "C"

With all those offers its hard not to make more money than i ever was doing as a "D"

I'd be fairly certain my averages reflect a good majority of all "C" units.

I'm just a plain ole express driver with nothing more than load bars and a box of straps.

significant investment you ask ??

1. stretched out a fl century
2. replaced carpets
3. installed new seats
4. proheat
5. new alcoas
6. new rubber all around
7. TracVision A5

 

[redytrk]

A recruiter once told me that "c" size loads are the ones most requested by shippers.

I guess this is why most "D" units tell me they are hauling 75% "C".

As to us C guys stealling D frt away,it just dosent happen (with FECC at least). If the shipper supprises us at the last minute with over 5,000,the dispatcher usually gives us the choice of carrying the load AT C RATE (if we are legal to haul it),or taking a dry run.They then dispatch a D truck.

 

[tec1959]

Hello all I have a question,Does a "C" unit have to do logs??? I was always In a "DR" or "E" units I'm just curious...

 

[targuard86]

A C unit does have to log and go through the scales. Over 10K lbs (or hazmat) must fill out logs and follow the HOS Regs. the driver of a C unit doesn't need a CDL to operate unless it is hauling HazMat....but all major companies require the driver to hold a CDL.



>Hello all I have a question,Does a "C" unit have to do
>logs??? I was always In a "DR" or "E" units I'm just
>curious...

Andy Lazar
Trooper Transport, inc

 

[geo]

when i was with fexcc alway's had a c unit and alway what i would call a super c could haul more than 5 thousand lbs
and my last c unit was a 2001 western star that could carry 13,333
and was paid a d rate as they were in great need and so they paid for what i could haul
and when i had the truck on with egl they paid for what i could haul
and most day 's was running at 9'500 more lbs
and now with the sprinter sometime getting a c rate
if they won't pay i won't haul it

 

[targuard86]

Geo,
I've got 2 sprinters with EGL and it seems all they do is make home deliveries. Its becomming difficult to find drivers to move TV's and book shelves for 35% of $11 a drop. I'd say 75% of their work is residential.

Do you run into that at your EGL terminal?

 

[geo]

yes , out of orf, i do everything heavy loads thur i had 1,100 pc on that was 9'10" on 48" wide 57" high, if it wasn't for the roller
would be stuck with alot small things
if i can get it on i can get it off
roller's help out very much