What would war with Russia look like?

[Maverick]

Near all wars are about money, power, and control. None of which profits the people of those countries. They will decide, trump up some bogus reason, and we will die....for they're cause.

Since the people never want to die, or go to war....some excuse has to be conjured up by Wall Street, The International Banking Cartel, and Cooperate. (the direct benefactors, with help from a complicit media, which they own) It would however, provide much more entertainment if the aforementioned would just announce the plan ahead of time....so we could ask them to lead us into battle.


If not? Then why are they doing so well, and you pay 40% in taxes, interest, insurance, license, and permits, every year? Got some post offices for sale, if you think otherwise. It's quite simple really.....we ran the usual game in a country where the persons and leader, directly affected, said NO.

Our leader shot his mouth off, and the answer was still, NO. One could make the argument, that in saying NO...... he saved American lives, all the while.

 

[Jamin_Joe]

My question is where is the UN? This is a repeat of history in which the Soviets keep repeating in Eastern Europe. My main worry is that the USA is too dependent on imports and we dont have the capibility to manufacture supplys for the military if needed. Of course, the Humanitarian idealology of the powers that be will enable the violations of international law by the Soviets. I guess we need to add the damage to the environment and the endangered wildlife of warfare to get the world leaders to react.

Bad behaivor is harder to change if you allow it to go on with out swift harsh conciquences.

 

[Maverick]

My question is where is the UN? This is a repeat of history in which the Soviets keep repeating in Eastern Europe. My main worry is that the USA is too dependent on imports and we dont have the capibility to manufacture supplys for the military if needed. Of course, the Humanitarian idealology of the powers that be will enable the violations of international law by the Soviets. I guess we need to add the damage to the environment and the endangered wildlife of warfare to get the world leaders to react.

Bad behaivor is harder to change if you allow it to go on with out swift harsh conciquences.

One cannot hardly espouse International Law.....all the while you've broken many of them yourself. And what repeated violations do you speak of, by Russia, in it's current state?

Many cannot see, because they peer through a national flag, as if that piece of cloth holds some kind of magical right vs wrong clarification. One needs to remember what those "powers that be" allowed Russia to do at the close of WW2.

Snapshot of the economic, goings on.......

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/29/western-looting-ukraine-begun-paul-craig-roberts/

In depth.....

http://www.globalresearch.ca/regime-change-in-ukraine-and-the-imfs-bitter-economic-medicine/5374877

 

[Jamin_Joe]

Just before and early WWII, Russia did what they are doing to the Ukraine with Poland and many people were sent to Russian Work Comps in Siberia. My Grand Father was smart enough to move the family out if there. Only when Russia thought of Hitler as a threat they joined the Allies. Before WWI, Russia took over control over 1/3 of Polands provences. For Centuries, Eastern Europe was a hotbed of Ethinic Cleansing and Territorial battles. In the UN's Charter they defined their main purpose to keep stronger countries from abusing the ones with a less powerful military. Both Russia and Ukraine are members of the UN. Do you remember how involved they were with the Gulf, Iraq, and Afganistan Wars.

With the past Russian history, I donot trust them.

 

[layoutshooter]

"With the past Russian history, I donot trust them."


Amen, brother, amen. The "Bear" was only sleeping.

My family too was "affected" by the "Bear". SOME of them escaped, some could not. I remember the letters my grandmother received from her bother, a great-uncle I never had the chance to meet, and the "stories" he told of the oppression, friends who went missing etc. I worked with many who escaped from the "Bear" and was able to hear their stories of the horrors that the "Bear" inflicted on them and the harrowing tales of their escape, which often took years to accomplish.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Funny the North American Indian probably said the same thing about Americans I don't trust them with their history..

 

[layoutshooter]

Funny the North American Indian probably said the same thing about Americans I don't trust them with their history..

The North American Indians could not trust the tribe next door either. Nor could they trust the Spanish, French, Dutch, Canadians and so on. They also "ran off" settlers who predated some of their arrivals into North America.

None of that has anything to do with the "Bear".

In other words, that was then, this is now.

You, however, are more than welcome to return your land to their control, if you chose to do so. I however, will not. I have read the original document that gave the land on which I live to the government of the United States. I also had NOTHING to do with what happened back then, one I was not even born, and two, I had NO relatives living here at the time.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

The North American Indians could not trust the tribe next door either. Nor could they trust the Spanish, French, Dutch, Canadians and so on. They also "ran off" settlers who predated some of their arrivals into North America.

None of that has anything to do with the "Bear".

In other words, that was then, this is now.

You, however, are more than welcome to return your land to their control, if you chose to do so. I however, will not. I have read the original document that gave the land on which I live to the government of the United States. I also had NOTHING to do with what happened back then, one I was not even born, and two, I had NO relatives living here at the time.

And your Russian history is recent?

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Just yanking your chain buddy...lol

 

[layoutshooter]

And your Russian history is recent?

It is on going. The "Bear" has woke up from his nap and is again on the prowl. The "Bear" is almost as big a threat to my way of life as Obama is. I also still have living relatives in Poland and Slovakia. They are in grave danger from the "Bear".

 

[Maverick]

"With the past Russian history, I donot trust them."


Amen, brother, amen. The "Bear" was only sleeping.

My family too was "affected" by the "Bear". SOME of them escaped, some could not. I remember the letters my grandmother received from her bother, a great-uncle I never had the chance to meet, and the "stories" he told of the oppression, friends who went missing etc. I worked with many who escaped from the "Bear" and was able to hear their stories of the horrors that the "Bear" inflicted on them and the harrowing tales of their escape, which often took years to accomplish.

But here's a point to be made? If the Russian Bear is known for it's brutality (not exclusive BTW), then why were their crimes of WW2 buried (right along with ours) and we only hear about the so-called German brutality (blown way out of proportion).

Evil and brutality is evident in all races and countries. Japanese vs Chinese wars, will really drive that point home.

Where it's most convenient to point the finger....is equally devious behavior, as history would prove out. In this, we come full circle, as to where and when, friends and enemies align. There is nothing exclusive about Russian behavior at this juncture. They have simply unofficially announced the right of people to live as they choose, in the system they choose. The people have spoken, and the Russians of that country have decided to remain as Russians.....rather than an IMF puppet state.

 

[Maverick]

The North American Indians could not trust the tribe next door either. Nor could they trust the Spanish, French, Dutch, Canadians and so on. They also "ran off" settlers who predated some of their arrivals into North America.

None of that has anything to do with the "Bear".

In other words, that was then, this is now.

You, however, are more than welcome to return your land to their control, if you chose to do so. I however, will not. I have read the original document that gave the land on which I live to the government of the United States. I also had NOTHING to do with what happened back then, one I was not even born, and two, I had NO relatives living here at the time.

But none of that offers justification?

 

[Ragman]

. . . and we only hear about the so-called German brutality (blown way out of proportion

I don't think these guys would say it was so-called and out of proportion.

 

[Maverick]

I don't think these guys would say it was so-called and out of proportion.

Not another picture of prisoners? Did you know these were taken following the war, and after Germany had been defeated? The old liberated camps thingy.

Here's what the real deal is.....toward the end of the conflict, German supply lines had been cut. These camps were prisoner facilities, with work details, just like any other prisoner camp. As in any other war, once supply lines are cut, food and other necessary items are in short supply, or no supply at all. Unlike Expediters, who eat regularly and then sit for hours.......ANY prison camp will have those interned on a much lower intake diet. No Denny's or Golden Corral here....

Put differently, you are already much closer to emaciated than normal. It would take just a few weeks of cutting food....to get where these people are at, and that's exactly what you see here. There was no starving people to death, death showers, systematic extermination....or anything of the kind.

Good to hear both sides....huh?

Eisenhower's Death Camps.  The Last Dirty Secret of World War Two by James Bacque

 

[xiggi]

Not another picture of prisoners? Did you know these were taken following the war, and after Germany had been defeated? The old liberated camps thingy.

Here's what the real deal is.....toward the end of the conflict, German supply lines had been cut. These camps were prisoner facilities, with work details, just like any other prisoner camp. As in any other war, once supply lines are cut, food and other necessary items are in short supply, or no supply at all. Unlike Expediters, who eat regularly and then sit for hours.......ANY prison camp will have those interned on a much lower intake diet. No Denny's or Golden Corral here....

Put differently, you are already much closer to emaciated than normal. It would take just a few weeks of cutting food....to get where these people are at, and that's exactly what you see here. There was no starving people to death, death showers, systematic extermination....or anything of the kind.

Good to hear both sides....huh?

Eisenhower's Death Camps.* The Last Dirty Secret of World War Two by James Bacque

No none at all and 911 was a government plot.

Wow after poking around that website a bit I now know the UN is run by tall gray aliens. I have led such a sheltered life.

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[layoutshooter]

No none at all and 911 was a government plot.

Wow after poking around that website a bit I now know the UN is run by tall gray aliens. I have led such a sheltered life.

Sent from my - Fisher Price ABC - 123

Maybe this will help!

The Flat Earth Society -- Home

 

[Ragman]

There was no starving people to death, death showers, systematic extermination....or anything of the kind.

Do you REALLY believe that? Wow!

 

[Maverick]

Do you REALLY believe that? Wow!

There is no evidence to support it. Anyone can offer a picture, and claim it represents this or that.

I'm going fishing today, and here to let you know of it. Later today, I will send you a picture of a 17lb small mouthed bass. Does that mean I caught it?

There is simply no hard evidence that any of this took place.

 

[xiggi]

No no eye witness accounts no first person accounts no pictures if you choose to believe that no tattoos no pictures of trains. Nope nothing at all you convinced me.


Oh winder where the pictures of the tall gray aliens running the in are.


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[Maverick]

No none at all and 911 was a government plot.

Wow after poking around that website a bit I now know the UN is run by tall gray aliens. I have led such a sheltered life.]

Best to stay sheltered. Tis more comfortable, I agree.