What holds America together?

[Pilgrim]

Demanding classes being taught in Spanish? Where exactly is this happening? I know Glenn Beck told us not to use Google, but I Googled, "Schools required to teach in Spanish". I couldn't find anything. Can you point me in the direction were I might find this information?

I'm more than happy to offer the following website:
Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Education
Be sure to check out the other segments of the website listed in the column on the left.

Did you ever think that those, "signs, packages, etc.," are printed in Spanish so that they can sell more of their products?

Been to a Home Depot lately? It's hard to estimate how many different SKUs are in one of their stores; but almost every one of them now have dual language labels. No doubt they feel compelled to label items like hammers in Spanish, so their loyal illegal Mexican customers who work construction for $3 an hour will know what they're getting. How much extra do you suppose it costs Home Depot to do this? There should be no need for that extra expense because most of their customers should be able to read English (which incidentally is required for citizenship).

Extremes? Would you happen to have sources for these things you speak of?

Here ya go: Shelbyville Times-Gazette: Local News: Islamic subversion alleged by speaker (02/17/09)

 

[RLENT]

Q: "What have you personally done to help, or ensure that, those you mentioned, assimilate here ?"

A: NOT A D*MN THING. It's not my responsibility to help or ensure that immigrants - especially illegal ones - assimilate into our culture.

LOL ..... what a frickin' crackup ....

You complain about what you see as a problem .... and then vociferously assert that you are unwilling to take any personal responsibility to change it ..

One can choose to be responsible for anything they wish .... all it takes is a decision to do so .... and some action on one's part to control the thing to the end you seek ....

Understand this, and understand it well - for it is true as the days are long:

All that BLAME is, is the denial of one's ability to control something, and an admission that one is unwilling to take responsibility to do so .... it is an effort to divert responsibility from oneself, and place it elsewhere ....

Out of your own mouth, you condemn yourself.

It is certainly true that all individuals are responsible for themselves (or not, as the case may be), their unique conditions and circumstances .... however that does not mean that one does not also have some duty to be responsible for others ....

I ask: Are you your brother's keeper .... or not ?

 

[RLENT]

Here ya go: Shelbyville Times-Gazette: Local News: Islamic subversion alleged by speaker (02/17/09)

Yeah ... John Guandolo ..... obviously a man of very high morals and sterling character ... :

FBI kept quiet about sexual relationship between agent, star witness in Jefferson trial

Got anymore losers to buttress your positions ?

 

[greg334]

I read this and almost p*ssed my pants with these comments. And to believe that these guys actually have jobs that actually influence our nations policies and don't live in their parents basements, Really? People actually believe this... oh wait they believed we were being invaded in 1938 too.

Can someone logically and with some validity explain to me without the "sky is falling" emotion how 7 to 10 million Muslims can take over a country that is predominantly Judao-Christian based with 310 million people in it?

I know the answer - YOU CAN'T!

 

[AMonger]

Nope, don't agree. I see MILLIONS willingly give up their freedom to be CARED for. They sit for a lifetime on welfare. They BEG for FREE health care, food stamps, rent support and free cell phones.

A person who loved freedom would fight tooth and nail to "do it on their own". Self reliant people a repulsed by hand outs. They would prefer to do without.

Freedom loving people would NOT be willing to give up the right to keep and bare arms. They would NOT vote for those who would.

If this was a Nation that still valued freedom we would NOT have this congress or Obama in office.

You and RLENT are both right. RLENT correctly stated what holds this nation together. You answered what tears it apart.

 

[layoutshooter]

"Demanding classes being taught in Spanish? Where exactly is this happening? I know Glenn Beck told us not to use Google, but I Googled, "Schools required to teach in Spanish". I couldn't find anything. Can you point me in the direction were I might find this information?"


This federal government program is not mandatory Spanish instruction, it is mandatory ARABIC!

It is on hold for now but it should have never been proposed. The federal government has NO business in education. It is a LOCAL matter. The Department of education needs to be disbanded.

Mandatory Arabic language classes coming to Texas school district​

Some school children in Texas' Mansfield Independent School District will soon be required to learn Arabic, thanks to a federal government grant.

According to a Dallas CBS News affiliate, Mansfield ISD received the Foreign Language Assistance Program (FLAP) grant last summer. It is one of only five districts in the country to be awarded the grant.

Parents were caught by surprise and learned of the grant Monday night in a meeting with district Superintendent Bob Morrison.

CBS News reported:

As part of the five-year $1.3 million grant, Arabic classes would be mandatory at Cross Timbers Intermediate School and Kenneth Davis Elementary School. The program would also be optional for students at T. A. Howard Middle School and Summit High School.

According to a PDF file provided by the school district, Cross Timbers was selected because it has "the highest percentage of native Arabic speakers in the district." The district sees these students as a resource to help develop the program.

Students will not only learn the language - the curriculum will include Arabic culture, government, art, traditions and history.

Some parents were concerned their children would be taught Islam as part of the program.

“The school doesn’t teach Christianity, so I don’t want them teaching Islam,” said parent Baron Kane.

Although Superintendent Morrison reassured parents their children would not be taught Islam, the concern is valid since many Arabic nations - like Saudi Arabia - are governed by Sharia law, which is based on Islam and teachings from the Koran.

Arabic has been identified by the federal Department of Education as a "language of the future", and the district believes the grant provides an excellent opportunity to prepare students for the economy of the future.

According to the district, the program provides several benefits:

• This project is federally funded for $ 1.3 million dollars over a 5 year period.

• This project adds a critical foreign language option for students in MISD.

• Successful Arabic foreign language studies (Arabic I, II, III) increases college and scholarship opportunities.

• This allows students to be prepared to compete globally for jobs that are not in existence yet.

• This project supports the diversity within MISD.

• This project allows students and teachers to learn about the Arab impact on our country.

• This grant allows for us to develop a partnership with the University of Texas at Austin.



Some, like Kheirieh Hannun, believes the program will help tear down some of the stereotypes people have of the Arabic culture, but the move may cause concern for those who see a creeping Islamization of America.

Update: As of late Wednesday, the program is on hold and may not happen at all. The grant may be restored after it has been evaluated by parents in the district, according to a Dallas CBS website.



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[greg334]

Layout, what's the difference between a mandatory language classes for French and German and that of Arabic?

NOTHING

This is A GRANT, it is not a mandatory thing handed down to the school district without their knowledge or wanting it. They wanted to capture the money AND knew what was required to get it, so they decided to apply. If there are cultural things thrown in, great where do I sign my kids up for it?

The ignorance of the statements show why we have too many problems here. Just like the guys/gals screaming about Sharia law and how it is here in our courts, which is a bunch of BS.

Sorry but this is another example of both BS on the part of people who want to make it out as a bad thing and another example of why we should consider getting rid of public schools.

When you speak of freedoms, this is one example that we handed the freedom to choose right to the federal government. We empowered them to make school choices for our kids education and before that, it was the states that had a hand in the demise of the schools. Of course freedom also means getting rid of those who the public doesn't want teaching their kids like bad teachers but we again allow the unions to have that freedom we gave them.

Just a side note here, when kids learn complex languages, like Japanese, Chinese, Hindi (which I have yet heard anyone complain about in our schools) and other non-European languages, they seem to excel in their studies and in there careers, not because of the language they learn but how they are taught to look at things.

Speaking of schools and grants. I have yet seen any concern of the race to the bottom grant program that has come out of this administration. HOW stupid can people be, competing for their own tax money based on some f***ing contest that really doesn't do a thing for the kids but enriches the teachers and administrators. THIS is what people should be screaming about, not teaching Arabic to kids who may be able to help us in the future but now only applies to ONLY less than 2% of the population.

 

[layoutshooter]

Layout, what's the difference between a mandatory language classes for French and German and that of Arabic?

NOTHING

This is A GRANT, it is not a mandatory thing handed down to the school district without their knowledge or wanting it. They wanted to capture the money AND knew what was required to get it, so they decided to apply. If there are cultural things thrown in, great where do I sign my kids up for it?

The ignorance of the statements show why we have too many problems here. Just like the guys/gals screaming about Sharia law and how it is here in our courts, which is a bunch of BS.

Sorry but this is another example of both BS on the part of people who want to make it out as a bad thing and another example of why we should consider getting rid of public schools.

When you speak of freedoms, this is one example that we handed the freedom to choose right to the federal government. We empowered them to make school choices for our kids education and before that, it was the states that had a hand in the demise of the schools. Of course freedom also means getting rid of those who the public doesn't want teaching their kids like bad teachers but we again allow the unions to have that freedom we gave them.

Just a side note here, when kids learn complex languages, like Japanese, Chinese, Hindi (which I have yet heard anyone complain about in our schools) and other non-European languages, they seem to excel in their studies and in there careers, not because of the language they learn but how they are taught to look at things.

Speaking of schools and grants. I have yet seen any concern of the race to the bottom grant program that has come out of this administration. HOW stupid can people be, competing for their own tax money based on some f***ing contest that really doesn't do a thing for the kids but enriches the teachers and administrators. THIS is what people should be screaming about, not teaching Arabic to kids who may be able to help us in the future but now only applies to ONLY less than 2% of the population.

I don't believe that the federal government should be issuing education grants. I don't believe that they should have ANY say in curriculum. I don't care if it is French, German, martian or algebra. They have NO business in education. Neither does the state. Education should be LOCAL. A students curriculum should be decided by the parents. Government should take a hike.

 

[greg334]

Well then I have to ask, did you send your kids to public school and are your grandkids in public school?

IF so, then you allow them to be involved.

TO me the biggest destructive form of education is public education that has been under the control of the feds since 1930's.

Our standards from the 50's on have declined while those who were once third world countries or countries we openly looked down upon have exceeded our old standards prior to the 50's to become a much smarter and a much more educated society. We allowed experiments and still do that don't do a thing for our future and the last time I looked, math, English and other things haven't changed since our creation but there still is a hard push from those to keep arts and sports in the education system above the needed basics that actually accelerate our country forward.

 

[scottm4211]

I think Greg is right on with his replies. Having the chance to learn any new languages should be treasured.

 

[greg334]

I think Greg is right on with his replies. Having the chance to learn any new languages should be treasured.

Thanks.

Many don't understand where we lost out knowledge and how we can get it back.

Sure bilingual kids and adults seem to excel at studies while those who don't care seem to flounder. When you break it down further, the people who take on complex languages like Arabic and Chinese are two steps ahead of those who learn Spanish or French - both difficult in their own right but don't actually expand one beyond the language and sometimes the culture. Then you have even a further distinction if the person learns the culture, which doesn't force someone to live the culture but rather opens the door for them not to be ignorant of the world around them.

Languages like Chinese or Japanese allows a person to seek out subtle things first in the language they are using and then everyday life. English and other European languages do not even approach the fineness of the writing or speaking as other languages do. One reason why that Indian guy living o outside of Medak can product a really great copy of a Browning 9MM to the point that the parts are interchangeable with an original. OR why that group of Chinese engineers who got an iPod can have their knockoffs running in a matter of a week when it took the apple 8 months to do the same thing.

BUT somewhere in the past posts in this thread is a comment that there is a comment made about how multicultural countries have failed. I got to say that the person who wrote that and thinks like that has never been to India. People think they are all the same, one type of people but there are something like 40 different major ethnic groups with something like 22 major languages and out of all of that, the country seems to be alive and not fighting among themselves. The government has two official languages and it works. Maybe from the tighta**ed western point of view that the skies falling, that every country that embraces diversity has failed but it is no where near the truth.

 

[layoutshooter]

Well then I have to ask, did you send your kids to public school and are your grandkids in public school?

IF so, then you allow them to be involved.

TO me the biggest destructive form of education is public education that has been under the control of the feds since 1930's.

Our standards from the 50's on have declined while those who were once third world countries or countries we openly looked down upon have exceeded our old standards prior to the 50's to become a much smarter and a much more educated society. We allowed experiments and still do that don't do a thing for our future and the last time I looked, math, English and other things haven't changed since our creation but there still is a hard push from those to keep arts and sports in the education system above the needed basics that actually accelerate our country forward.

My kids were in public school and I FOUGHT those schools the entire time they were there. Thanks to my lousy pay when working for the feds I could not afford private school or they would have been in one. I taught them the important lessons in life which often were contradicted by the schools.

I have NO control over my granddaughter, that is her mother's and father's business. It is NONE of my business nor that of the governments.

 

[layoutshooter]

I think Greg is right on with his replies. Having the chance to learn any new languages should be treasured.

Does the U.S. Federal Government, under the U.S. Constitution have ANY legal authority to even be involved in education? I don't think so. I have NO idea about Canada.

I have NO problem with kids learning a new language. I have MULTIPLE problems if the Federal or State government makes the learning of ANY subject MANDATORY!! All education decisions should be made by the parents. Raising and education children is the sole responsibility of parents. When the State and or Feds take over the housing, feeding, clothing etc then they can force the education garbage that they want too. Until then they can go spit up a rope.

 

[RLENT]

I read this and almost p*ssed my pants with these comments. And to believe that these guys actually have jobs that actually influence our nations policies and don't live in their parents basements, Really?

Sadly, yes ....

People actually believe this... oh wait they believed we were being invaded in 1938 too.

Possibly one of the more scarier aspects of it, is the (so-called) journalist from the Times-Gazette's willingness to swallow this former Federal buffoon's entire fantasy ..... hook, line, and sinker ....

I can only imagine sheer awe of the reporter .... being in the true presence of greatness ....

One wonders if a very thorough licking of Mr. Guandolo's footwear was given in exchange for allowing a mere mortal the interview and high honor of speaking with him ....

Can someone logically and with some validity explain to me without the "sky is falling" emotion how 7 to 10 million Muslims can take over a country that is predominantly Judao-Christian based with 310 million people in it? I know the answer - YOU CAN'T!

Hmmmm ..... don't see anyone stepping up to take the challenge ...