Warning, no cell phone N.J.

pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
.... Elsewhere in New Jersey State Law is where they define "amateur radio", and the broader scope of that definition includes CB's and walkie talkies and other radios.

I wonder where that would place the PTT phones.. they can be used as either a cellphone or a walkie-talkie.. ??
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
PTT phones are classified as cell phones, so they'd fall into the hand-held wireless cell phone category.
 

broker

Seasoned Expediter
May I first explain something.
This post was to help drivers avoid a costly ticket in New Jersey.
I know what I gave was correct information (you can read the warning on all the toll plaza service entries)
Somehow it went right into a "broker is giving false info" reply.
After a short response about cell phone use while driving (my friend was killed by a user) I decided to stay off the subject.

I see many replies have been made since then. I am not going to read any of them.
If any were directed to me, please send a pm.
Thank you,
BIG JOHN
 

pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
Ya whatever Broker, blah blah, wah wah.

Well jeez that kinda sucks for those of us using PTT since I don't think they can be used without being held to push the button.
 

termite289

Expert Expediter
i wont talk on the phone if a select few places. #1 during sex. #2 during church. #3 during a funeral. #4 IN THE BATHROOM!!!!!!!! #5 in line #6 during a buisness meeting.
am i the only one who is creaped out by guys yacking on the phone in the can???
 

pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
....i wont talk on the phone if a select few places. #1 during sex.....

Hey don't knock it, some of us make good money doin that! :D

Ha, kidding aside, I was in a grocery line the other day and the woman behind me, close enough to be invading my personal space, was talking.. at first I figured she was on the phone.. but then her conversation was such that I started wondering, is she talking to ME? So I turned around and looked at her, and she was looking at me.. talking.. I was thinking they'd let the dogs outta the doghouse.. then I noticed her ear/mouth piece.. barely noticable with skinny wire going to her pocket..
If you want to have a conversation, couldn't you at least turn your head or move back a little or something, to let others know you're on a personal conversation.. with yourself or otherwise? :D
 

mjolnir131

Veteran Expediter
Ha, kidding aside, I was in a grocery line the other day and the woman behind me, close enough to be invading my personal space, was talking.. at first I figured she was on the phone.. but then her conversation was such that I started wondering, is she talking to ME? So I turned around and looked at her, and she was looking at me.. talking.. I was thinking they'd let the dogs outta the doghouse.. then I noticed her ear/mouth piece.. barely noticable with skinny wire going to her pocket..
If you want to have a conversation, couldn't you at least turn your head or move back a little or something, to let others know you're on a personal conversation.. with yourself or otherwise? :D


You would think people who do that would have enough common courtesy to walk in pairs .. so that way it at lest looks like they are having a conversation!
 

bluejaybee

Veteran Expediter
What is that ole saying? "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have them"? Ever notice the number of "lawmen" talking on cell phones as they pass you on the road? Of course, we all know they are calling ahead to the donut shop to place an order. It saves us tax payers money if the donuts are ready when they get there. Ha! So it is O.K. for them to use them!
 

CharlesD

Expert Expediter
You hear people saying that there are more accidents involving people talking on a phone, but you have to wonder if that proves causation or not. Could it be that more people have accidents while talking on the phone because there just happen to be more people who use phone in the car now? Cell phone use has increased dramatically over the last decade, so it only stands to reason that there will be more people having accidents while using one just by virtue of there being more people using them, not necessarily because the phone use is what's causing the accident. I know that there are those who are distracted by the phone and have a wreck, but I would wager that those are the same people who would be easily distracted by something else if the phone wasn't available. You could just as easily get distracted by the radio.
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
UCLA did one study that was replicated a year later by Ohio State and Arizona State (as well as several States) where, in both controlled conditions and in monitored real life conditions, people had the same exact reaction times while talking on a cell phone as someone who is legally drunk. Interestingly, hand-held or headset, didn't matter, both were equally distracted. The results of the studies, as well as of the statistical compilations of admission by those involved in accidents goes a real long way towards causality.

Then there's Connecticut, where people drive crazy, anyway, where they tracked all reported accidents and found not only a marked increase in accidents that correlated with the increase popularity of cell phone usage, but they found something like a 300-500% increase in rear-end collisions alone. Granted, some of those accidents may have happened regardless, but for such a statistic, even a 40-50% increase in rear-end collisions is a dramatic deviation from the norm. 40-50% is the kind of statistical increase you see during a snow storm, for example, but, at least in Connecticut, it was year 'round, across the board. That's significant.

Even without the studies, this is one where plain ol' common sense will tell you that driving while talking on the phone can be distracting. I have often stopped in mid sentence while talking on the phone in order to give the road my full attention. I have also driven right by my exit while talking on the phone.

Anyone who says they are not distracted while talking on the phone and driving are just fooling themselves.
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
Participating in a conversation by phone requires an incredible amount of focus and concentration. One might think it is passive but I am inclined to think otherwise. Today, I saw a young woman ( cell phone to her ear) blow right through a red light.

I have often observed cell phone users glance slightly downward, even tilting their heads downward as they attempt to drive and talk by phone. Taking attention away from the highway, even for 3 or 4 seconds, can lead to disaster. Keep that chin up while driving.
 
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