Warning about Streets & Trips 2008

chetjester

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I was just reading the posts about the Garmin. I decided long ago to stick with Streets and Trips because it was so inexpensive and allowed me to plan very well using my laptop because I could see so much more about the route than a device on my dash would allow.

At first, I didn't use GPS tracking. But, when I finally splurged and bought my GPS device, I was so impressed. I've used it to get myself out of trouble quite often.

In the 2008 version, there is a major problem. When you are using S&T for GPS guidance, the program now recalculates your route if you go off your route a bit or make a wrong turn. This may seem great, but here is the caveat. Sometimes, when I route myself, I enter waypoints to ensure that I take the roads I want to take. I usually put in a Flying J truck stop. Well, if that truck stop is a bit off the trail, for the rest of the trip S&T will keep trying to reroute me back to it!!! It royally sucks!!!! I've been on the Microsoft S&T forum and everybody is complaining about it.

So, a word of warning. Unless you want to go out of your mind, don't upgrade to 2008 until they allow you to disable that feature.

For what it is worth, I've tried CoPilot Laptop 9 with GPS. Don't waste your money. There isn't enough in CoPilot to justify the cost and it is nowhere as flexible as S&T. In addition, I have all my truck stops identified in S&T along with all the places I've picked up from or delivered to. I keep adding stops all the time. I save them in a template which easily upgrades whenever I install a new version of S&T.

I love my Streets & Trips. I wish the programmers had asked somebody before they destoyed version 2008.


Chet Merithew
The Prodigal Son of A. Blair
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highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
My Garmin does that too. Sometimes to the point of being just plain stupid. I picked up in Jasper, In. When I got back to I64, the ramp to go west was closed so I followed the posted detour. Of course, the Garmin is recalculating along the way. When I got back to 64, it wanted me to go east in order to get back to where I went off route. I just laugh at her and tell her she must have just had her hair bleached.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Can't you just delete the extra stop once you've passed it and have it route to the next upcoming stop as if you were starting from the current point? I've got Copilot, strictly because of clearance issues, and do that with it because it too will try to take you back if you don't exactly hit the target in the drop zone. I just take the intermediate point out and it looks ahead to the destination.

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chetjester

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Sure, I could do lots of things to counter the recalculation. But, I have to pull over to the side of the road to do that or take a chance of having a major accident. I don't want to interact with S&T while I'm driving except to check my route. I have one of those Cybertrucker Laptop stands in my truck which makes it easy to use my laptop. But there is a limit to what I'm going to attempt while driving.

Mostly, I route the trip with S&T. I only use it "live" if I have doubts about my ability to get to my pickup or delivery location without some kind of guidance. So, it's an inconvenience I will work with. I just wish I had been warned before updating all my files to 2008.

BTW, I have PCMiler 20 Hazmat/Streets along with Copilot 9. I double check my route with those two programs to verify that S&T has put me on roads that trucks can use. Most of the time I don't need to do that. After almost 4 years of this, I know where I can drive and not drive.

Chet Merithew
The Prodigal Son of A. Blair
Truck #81105
OOIDA #828583
 

Broompilot

Veteran Expediter
With any Standard Version using GPS I have found that I MUST USE MORE COMMONSENSE than what the Computer has.

My Megallin was much nicer in that I could see a map of streets and where I was so I could make a decision like what your talking about. The Garmin, well she is just not gona let me see a map and take me where she feels a 4 wheeler can go.

You cannot depend on these 100% but they will get ya to the address.
Example Detroit to Durham N.C. it wants me to go 75-80-77S

I like 75 to U.S. 68 OH 31 US 33, it shaves off about an hour and probably close to 50 miles.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I can't remember if there's a shortcut for recalculate but to remove stops you just hit ctrl-z so if you put start, end, and then stops in reverse order from end to start the last one you put in would be the first one after you start. Then all you'd have to do is hit ctrl-z, which you could do one handed in about 1 second, and that first waypoint is gone. Then hit recompute, whatever that is, and off you go.

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