Very Disappointing numbers

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Dave,
Thanks, some can't see it is all about the [FONT=&quot]Benjamins when you come down to it.

I think a better term to use in place of favoritism is Business Need. It seems to fit better because most of the time they do things based on [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Business Need, nothing else.
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davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Well....I cut to the chase. One can call it or spin it any way they want. At the end of the day, your still at the same place.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
I think DaveKC might benefit by studying Panther's One Call Solution web page, where services explained there seem quite similar to the FedEx Expedited Freight Services soloutions promoted by FedEx Custom Critical.

If people wanted to negatively ride Panther like DaveKC negatively rides FedEx, it would be a simple matter to tell stories about Panther fleet owners who have gone out of business too, or have left Panther for FedEx and claim to be better off. But in the interests of decency and fairness, most people don't target a single carrier and spin negative on an ongoing basis.

They also do not make frequent use of innuendo and double entendre to make points that cannot otherwise be supported. A master propagandist (spinner) with an anti-FedEx agenda DaveKC is (witness his numerous and ongoing anti-FedEx posts). When talking about FedEx in the Open Forum, fair and balanced he is not.

Readers who object to innuento and double entendre can easily expose the practice by simply and respectfully asking the author what he or she means by what is said, as I did in reply #16 above.

Notice that in his response, DaveKC did not say what he meant. He instead changed the subject and suggested other people were spinning things. That's what I mean by "making points that cannot otherwise be supported." When one cannot support a point he or she made or it would be disadvantagous to explain one's true meaning or intent when asked to do so, change the subject instead.
 
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jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
Come on Phil, Fedex has as many warts as any other Carrier out here. In some cases the warts are worse for the O/O, case in point Fedex's policy in regards to obtaining your own backhaul. Another would be how they require you to do their FSC program. Some might also complain about the way people get into W/G.
 
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davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I don't believe it was said by anyone that one provided a service that the other didn't. It is different between the two with regards to how their sevices are marketed. That isn't anti anything. The priorities of both are different. That is why I referred to someone currently or just left for their quote.
One has a lot of assets and employees that carries a different obligation than one that is non-asset based.

Lastly, nothing to dodge. I questioned the purpose of a acceptance ratings policy that I connect to favoritism. You didn't respond to that or Streakin's post so I recieved the expected response.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
From an outsiders observations..Can Phil support his claim...?

Nearly ALL carriers have a no favourtism policy some adhere to it closer then others and some dispatchers can mask it better and justify sending that unit for the load...MAYBE rookie dispatchers would be fired BUT I highly doubt an experienced one would be because of office connections, Dispatcher discretion has a very window at best...
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
From an outsiders observations..Can Phil support his claim...?


Probably not. It is easier to attack me rather than answer Streakin's question or explain/defend the purpose of a acceptance ratings policy as it pertains to his carrier.
 

Streakn1

Veteran Expediter
[QUOTE
you may want to respond to Streakin's post since he is current there at Fedex[/QUOTE]

Not for long at this rate! I guess they have little to no "temp assured" freight anymore to offer a WG ER-unit that is "non-fully credentialed". I was just trying to find out if anyone knew where it has gone. Have to wonder who's hauling that temp assured freight. Could it be the black cat? Hear through a couple of T/T drivers (wont reveal there carrier), they recently bought about fifty new 53' reefer trailers. Twenty five are supposed to have wood floors in them to. It seems to me, you don't buy that many new reefer trailers unless you have the freight to haul in them. Maybe I'm wrong, you know, rumors and such.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Sounds like you been scratchin in the pan:D
Last I heard there is another batch behind that, but I wouldn't have a clue as to what floors are in them.
My understanding is the Fed is not expanding their WG right now. Could be part of the reason, or it is more relevant to another post with regards to internal competition. Some disagree with my assessment, but simple economics would convince me otherwise.
But....I am on the outside looking in.
There is only so much freight available on a given day.
They have to be putting something in those company reefer trailers I see lined up in Memphis.
The "fully credentialed " comment probably does have some worth in your case. Only because one would have to distinguish themselves away from what their company employees can do.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
They have to be putting something in those company reefer trailers I see lined up in Memphis.

Well I thought I was the only one. Makes you wonder why it looks like they are ramping up recruiting for Freight employees and LTL (employees .49 CPMs solos and contractors .95 CPMs solos). I have one of their ads right here, see it......

I have seen them recruiting for Express and ground but never for LTL and Freight.

The "fully credentialed " comment probably does have some worth in your case. Only because one would have to distinguish themselves away from what their company employees can do.

Well Dave, things are supposed to be equal :rolleyes:, there is not supposed to be a competition within the ranks and divisions. So.......

But I have hauled WG reefer freight before and didn't get these 'credentials'. I have been told (by management at FedEx CC) that 'credentials' only come into play when they need them, remember that favoritism thing and their attempt to stamp it out, suppose to be the same thing about the load and the truck - they are to match the truck to the load and if the load requires DoD clearance, then only those operators who meet that requirement will appear on the screen for a match. If it does not work that way anymore, then there is that word again popping up. :D

So I would think that if the unit is not temperature validated and the reefer unit did not have a recent inspection, this may be why they won't give you reefer work.
 

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
[QUOTE
you may want to respond to Streakin's post since he is current there at Fedex

Not for long at this rate! I guess they have little to no "temp assured" freight anymore to offer a WG ER-unit that is "non-fully credentialed". I was just trying to find out if anyone knew where it has gone. Have to wonder who's hauling that temp assured freight. Could it be the black cat? Hear through a couple of T/T drivers (wont reveal there carrier), they recently bought about fifty new 53' reefer trailers. Twenty five are supposed to have wood floors in them to. It seems to me, you don't buy that many new reefer trailers unless you have the freight to haul in them. Maybe I'm wrong, you know, rumors and such.[/quote]


check out the new purdy bros trailers,you will see wood floors,and contract with pfizer.
 

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
When the economy picks up, you should see some improvement. You are in direct competition with their own company equipment which they will move ahead of any contractors truck. In a slow economy, they really have little choice.

Dave,in direct competition with fed ex company trucks:?Come on Dave,you know better.Yes, Ive hauled FedEx Freight loads,but they needed delivered faster than they could deliver,and they were also full rate,no discount.Thats not in direct competition with their company trucks.
What I have to say to Streaker1 or anyone else reading this thread,If your in the right place at the right time you will be busy,if not you will feel like the ones that are really slow.As far as the favoritism,when do I get mine?Especially since ive been here longer than most,guess I just havent greased the right wheel,oops 'nother cat out of the bag,roflmao
 

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
So I guess that if I had explosives and ammo along with radioactive credentials, plus had a shorter wheelbase tractor so I could go into Canada I would be getting more temp assured freight? When I hired on over four years ago it was not a requirement to have these credentials to be in White Glove. Has that changed? If I wanted that revenue I surely would have those credentials by now. I did not choose to get into expediting to haul those commodities. I'm sure there are other areas of transporting high value expedited freight that my tractor is suited for.

All I was commenting on is what appears to be a possible decline in temp assured freight, for whatever reason that may be. I can't imagine that all of this freight has switched to T-val. Furthermore, if all I'm needed for is to haul dry freight then I can do it cheaper in a dry van.


You may or may not want me to say this,but,yes you can haul dry freight,much cheaper pulling thier trailer,but to your advantage,you can also haul temp assured freight.This is a plus on your side.Try something for 1 month,dont turn any loads down,no matter what,see where you stand then.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Steve....

That is one distinct advantage you guys have. When Fedex Freight can't make a quick delivery for whatever reason, I would have to think CC contractors benefits from that.

With regards to internal competition, I am sure they say one division doesn't compete with the other.
 
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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Steve....

That is one distinct advantage you guys have. When Fedex Freight can't make a quick delivery for whatever reason, I would have to think CC contractors benefits from that.

With regards to internal competition, I am sure they say one division doesn't compete with the other.

Actually, they say the divisions cooperate with each other to meet customer needs.
 

FJK1954

Expert Expediter
There will always be a need for white glove trucks ...80% of the loads we do are extremely high value loads that need special handling. Fedex couldnt put them on company trucks if they wanted to because the customers demand our trucks for this type of freight ..they want temp controlled , pads, straps, special handling , extra security, t-val for pharmaceuticals, etc. etc. ...none of which company trucks like fedex freight can provide and alot do not want their high dollar freight thrown in with alot of other general freight in the same truck therefore want exclusive use. Also, having all the credentials allows you opportunities for more types of loads OTHER than t-val or reefer. if your happy doing those types, dont worry about the other. just my opinion. frank
 
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