van question

asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
No engine uses zero oil between oil changes, be it 10,000 miles or 3,000 miles.

Ok... thanks for telling me how my van runs...I AM saying MY van uses 0 oil between oil changes...NEVER have added make up oil...so that makes it 0.0..

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billg27

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
My 4.8 uses one quart every 7,500 miles. I change oil every 15,000 with Amsoil and their high milage filter. I never add the second quart because its due for its oil change. I find that very normal and acceptable. At 200,000+ I think this engine has a lot more miles left. No knocks or other noises coming from this original engine.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
You're welcome. Someone needed to. I'm simply telling you the physics and engineering of an internal combustion engine. Just because you haven't added the anywhere from one to five ounces of make-up oil the engine used doesn't mean that oil wasn't used. Zero is a very specific number, and it's one that is physically impossible to have, unless you never run the engine.
 

asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
You're welcome. Someone needed to. I'm simply telling you the physics and engineering of an internal combustion engine. Just because you haven't added the anywhere from one to five ounces of make-up oil the engine used doesn't mean that oil wasn't used. Zero is a very specific number, and it's one that is physically impossible to have, unless you never run the engine.

..ok you got me... guilty...it never requires make up oil between changes...the oil on the metal stick dohicky thing you probe the oil pan with never shows oil consumption ...geees

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mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I drove a diesel for a guy, several years ago now, which didn't require any oil to be added. In fact, it required oil to be removed. A lot of it. You don't see too many engine where the oil level rises between changes, but this one sure did.

The injectors were putting in way too much fuel, and it was washing past the rings right into the oil pan...... An upper-engine rebuild on that one. It was a Cummins engine.
 

purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
I'm talking GM not Sprinters. I have had a Duramax and liked it. The trouble was 600# heavier and in a van you need all the cargo capacity you can get. My neighbor who has an 05 duramax just paid $3,000 for an injector job. With that much I can drop a brand new 6.0 in with warranty. You don't save that much with mileage differences, not sure you do with a Sprinter either with the cost of repairs and replacing one. That just my opinion.
 

mjmsprt40

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
The only other way it makes sense is if the companies pay significantly more money if you have the heavier engine. They don't. I lost money on the Sprinter because the company I drove for dramatically lowered the rates while I was there. The company I'm with now pays the same per-mile rate whether I drive a huge Sprinter or a standard CV, so there's not sufficient reason to buy another Sprinter-- much less a diesel CV. Diesels cost more to buy and more to repair and maintain. The pay is the same whether it's gas or diesel. Your choice.
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
The only other way it makes sense is if the companies pay significantly more money if you have the heavier engine. They don't. I lost money on the Sprinter because the company I drove for dramatically lowered the rates while I was there. The company I'm with now pays the same per-mile rate whether I drive a huge Sprinter or a standard CV, so there's not sufficient reason to buy another Sprinter-- much less a diesel CV. Diesels cost more to buy and more to repair and maintain. The pay is the same whether it's gas or diesel. Your choice.

If a company refused to put taller or wider or longer loads on a sprinter i could see your point. Event at equal rates one has to consider more load options just like having an extended van compared to a standard. For some comfort plays in also as usual a lot of it comes down to individual choice.

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Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
You keep bringing up the cost of additives, as if that cost is a lot.
It is a cost. If you had a gasser like I do, you could just buy gasoline at BP like I do. Their gas comes with Invigorate. With Invigorate coming straight from the pump I don't need no stinkin' additives. Invigorate has changed my life. Since using Invigorate I think my hair has started growing on the top of my head. I have noticed an extra little spring in my step, although my knees still make a grinding noise. I have also noticed an increase in blood flow to some body extremities. Can you make the same claims using Howes or Power Service?

Some people replace their engines, some rebuild them. A rebuild kit is about $1800.
Is this for a Sprinter? What about labor costs?


I don't know that either one has a significant advantage over the other. It app depends on what you want and what you are comfortable with.
Then in the case of the E-350, why drop an extra four grand up front?
 
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