Truly the end is near.......lmao!!!

witness23

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Maybe the Mayan's were correct. How funny is this story?

A Conservative, GOP candidate, Right Winger, Anti-Illegal, Tea-Party guy, Old School, No Nonsense, Face of FoxNews conservative movement, Tough Guy Sheriff, has a relationship with an illegal immigrant? Talk about hypocritical. Gay dating sites, nekkid pictures shared, underwear shots, blackmail, abuse of power and harboring an illegal immigrant.......whoa nelly!!!!! This has the makings of a storyline for Alborado.

The guy is gay, not that there is anything wrong with that, but he want's to keep it under wraps? Then.....after getting "outed", he comes out talking about gay rights? Wow!!!!

Oh......and he served in the military!!

"Pinal" county..........too funny.

link: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57381163/ariz-sheriff-facing-long-odds-after-gay-outing/

Ariz. sheriff facing long odds after gay outing
February 19, 2012 11:57 PM

(AP) FLORENCE, Ariz. - Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu built a reputation as a rising, conservative star by taking a hardline stance against illegal immigration, attacking the Obama administration and appearing alongside Sen. John McCain in a 2010 re-election ad in which McCain urged federal officials to just "complete the danged fence."

But, on Saturday, Babeu's conservative image took a beating as he was forced to confirm publicly that he is gay and was involved in a relationship with a Mexican immigrant who claims the sheriff threatened to have him deported if he revealed their relationship.

Babeu denies any wrongdoing, and has vowed to continue his battle for the GOP nomination in an extremely conservative rural congressional district. He recognizes he is fighting an uphill battle, especially in a state where family values, as defined by a large evangelical Christian and Mormon population, often battle fierce, anti-immigrant beliefs to define conservatism.

At a lengthy press conference, Babeu said he hopes voters will stick with him.

Ariz. sheriff says he's gay after misconduct claims

His competitors think that's unlikely. Arizona Sen. Ron Gould says Babeu is sure to lose major support among the family-values voters who oppose gay marriage.

Babeu previously avoided a public stance on gay rights, but came out in favor of them on Saturday.

"I can be a supporter and get out there and help articulate as we progress as a culture and a society, that there should be individual liberties and there should be individual freedoms," Babeu said. "For any other person to define somebody else's relationship and say it not OK, that is not who we are as Americans."

Saturday's revelation already led Babeu to call presidential candidate Mitt Romney's staff to say he would step down from his post as state campaign co-chair. Babeu campaigned with Romney and was featured in robocalls in Iowa attacking Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who was then seeking the GOP nomination.

"Sheriff Babeu has stepped down from his volunteer position with the campaign so he can focus on the allegations against him. We support his decision," Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said in a statement.

Some political observers think Babeu's career could be over.

"There is no question that his budding congressional campaign is over," longtime Arizona Republican political consultant Sean Noble wrote on his blog. "Because it is a Republican primary in a conservative district, it's likely that the thing that hurts him the most is that he was in a gay relationship."

Others aren't sure it's the end, but they said there's no doubt he will be hurt.

"It obviously has implications for a congressional race. There's just no question about it," said Bruce Merrill, an Arizona State University political science professor emeritus and a longtime pollster. "I don't see how any reasonable person cannot think that this is going to hurt him, particularly with the constituency that he has built, which is a very evangelical, right-wing, family oriented conservative constituency."

Babeu's acknowledgment that he is gay came after a story in the Phoenix New Times, an alternative weekly magazine that quoted a former lover as saying Babeu threatened his immigration status if he revealed their relationship.

Babeu denied claims he tried to threaten the man, a former campaign volunteer. He said the accusations were an attempt to hurt his political career. The legal status of the man, identified only as Jose by the New Times and Babeu, was unclear. His lawyer said he was unavailable for comment but might be available in a few days.

Jose provided the New Times with photos of him and Babeu embracing. It also posted a cell phone self-portrait of a smiling Babeu in his underwear and another of what appears to be the shirtless sheriff in a bathroom, posted on a gay dating web site. Babeu didn't deny their authenticity.

Babeu made national headlines soon after his 2008 defeat of an incumbent in his rural county south of Phoenix by jumping on the anti-illegal immigration bandwagon led by longtime Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and berating the federal government for allowing human and drug smuggling to go unchecked.

Then in 2010, he was tapped by McCain to help champion his border security plan during McCain's re-election effort.

McCain, asked Sunday on ABC's "This Week" about Babeu, said he thought of him as a friend.

"I do not know the details, except what has been published in the media," he said. "And I'm sure there will be a thorough and complete investigation, if there is any allegation of wrongdoing. All I can say is that he also deserves the benefit, as every citizen does, of innocence until proven guilty. But I appreciate the support that he gave me in my campaign and always will."

Arpaio, a longtime ally, distanced himself.

"All I can say is he's the sheriff of Pinal County, and it's up to him to face his issues, not me," Arpaio told The Arizona Republic. He said Babeu has been "begging" for an endorsement in the congressional primary.

"I don't even think I'm going to get involved," Arpaio said. "We'll see what happens with Babeu."

Just last weekend, Babeu gave a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C., reiterating his criticism of Obama, the Justice Department's failed "Operation Fast and Furious" gunrunning investigation and seeking support for his congressional campaign.

Babeu has been something of an enigma since he appeared on the scene. He was elected to the city council of his hometown of North Adams, Mass., at age 18, and came to Arizona shortly after losing an election for North Adams mayor in 2001.

He became a Chandler police officer and in November 2008 defeated a Democratic incumbent to become sheriff.

Along the way, he served in the Army National Guard as both an enlisted man and an officer, retiring from the Arizona Guard as a major after serving stints in Iraq and along the U.S.-Mexico border.
 

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This happens so often with "conservatives" that it borders on the sociological cliché. It's to the point where the question, "What are you most adamantly against?", is a euphemism for, "What dirty little secrets do you have going that you don't want people to know about?" <snort>
 

jaminjim

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witness said:
Maybe the Mayan's were correct. How funny is this story?

A Conservative, GOP candidate, Right Winger, Anti-Illegal, Tea-Party guy, Old School, No Nonsense, Face of FoxNews conservative movement, Tough Guy Sheriff, has a relationship with an illegal immigrant? Talk about hypocritical. Gay dating sites, nekkid pictures shared, underwear shots, blackmail, abuse of power and harboring an illegal immigrant.......whoa nelly!!!!! This has the makings of a storyline for Alborado.

The guy is gay, not that there is anything wrong with that, but he want's to keep it under wraps? Then.....after getting "outed", he comes out talking about gay rights? Wow!!!!

Oh......and he served in the military!!

"Pinal" county..........too funny.
I didn't see in the story that you posted that the guy was an illegal alien, maybe it came out in another news article?

If the the guy is in the country legally, the whole thing is a story about a sheriff that turns out to be a homosexual, and as you said: "The guy is gay, not that there is anything wrong with that". So what is your problem with a gay politician?
 

paullud

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Maybe the Mayan's were correct. How funny is this story?

A Conservative, GOP candidate, Right Winger, Anti-Illegal, Tea-Party guy, Old School, No Nonsense, Face of FoxNews conservative movement, Tough Guy Sheriff, has a relationship with an illegal immigrant? Talk about hypocritical. Gay dating sites, nekkid pictures shared, underwear shots, blackmail, abuse of power and harboring an illegal immigrant.......whoa nelly!!!!! This has the makings of a storyline for Alborado.

The guy is gay, not that there is anything wrong with that, but he want's to keep it under wraps? Then.....after getting "outed", he comes out talking about gay rights? Wow!!!!

Oh......and he served in the military!!

"Pinal" county..........too funny.

link: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57381163/ariz-sheriff-facing-long-odds-after-gay-outing/

Ariz. sheriff facing long odds after gay outing
February 19, 2012 11:57 PM

How about the fact that this story was even put out before there has been a proper investigation and then shared by someone who makes up his own description of a man he doesn't even know to make it seem more outrageous. He then tries to cover up his prejudice of homosexuals by saying there is nothing wrong with it but feels the need to make sexual orientation a focal point.

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witness23

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I didn't see in the story that you posted that the guy was an illegal alien, maybe it came out in another news article?

Fair enough, Babeu and his lawyer are being accused of threatening to deport the
ex-lover. If the accusations are true that they threatened "Jose" with deportation then the guy must be illegal or it would be a gross misuse of their power. Either way, it doesn't look good for the sheriff.

If the the guy is in the country legally, the whole thing is a story about a sheriff that turns out to be a homosexual, and as you said: "The guy is gay, not that there is anything wrong with that".


The point is if the sheriff and his lawyer threatened to deport the ex-lover. Being gay is just the icing on the cake.


So what is your problem with a gay politician?

I don't have a problem with a gay politician, I do however have a problem with a gay politician that is masquerading as a straight, heterosexaul, God fearing, liberty loving homosexual that is in denial.

Here is the link to the paper that broke the story: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2012...f-s-attorney-threatened-him-with-deportation/
 

witness23

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How about the fact that this story was even put out before there has been a proper investigation and then shared by someone who makes up his own description of a man he doesn't even know to make it seem more outrageous. He then tries to cover up his prejudice of homosexuals by saying there is nothing wrong with it but feels the need to make sexual orientation a focal point.

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How long have you been on this forum? If you are unable to see the irony in this, you truly are delusional.
 

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How about the fact that this story was even put out before there has been a proper investigation.....
Irrelevant. It the press had to wait until a proper investigation was complete, we'd never hear about anything. The man held a press conference and resigned as co-chair of the Romney Arizona campaign. Don't really need much of an investigation to report those things.
 

paullud

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Irrelevant. It the press had to wait until a proper investigation was complete, we'd never hear about anything. The man held a press conference and resigned as co-chair of the Romney Arizona campaign. Don't really need much of an investigation to report those things.

The only possible news worthy item would be if he threatened the guy with deportation but he should be charged before it is reported. If it is true that he threatened the guy then it is a local news story as it has no impact outside the county. The only reason it is being reported is because it is politically motivated.

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paullud

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How long have you been on this forum? If you are unable to see the irony in this, you truly are delusional.

There is no irony to the story, it is only in your prejudice beliefs about conservatives. Looking at what is stated it could only be ironic if the sheriff smuggled "Jose" across the border.

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It's just dripping with both irony and hypocrisy. A really large plank in the GOP's foundation is the conservative religious right's position on homosexuality. In his press conference where he came out he tried to play both sides of the fence on the gay marriage issue, because he's supported candidates in the past who are anti-gay all the way, including anti-gay marriage, and now he's gay and he doesn't want to lose any of those votes, either. He built his entire reputation on standing shoulder-to-shoulder (or cheek-to-cheek, if you will) with the GOP party and it's platforms. That's newsworthy, especially since he's a candidate for Congress.

When a very loud and outspoken conservative who appears walking along the fence side-by-side with John McCain in campaign ads comes out of the closet, that alone is newsworthy, especially when in those ads Paul Babeu looks at McCain and says, "You're one of us." You can't make that up.
 

paullud

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It's just dripping with both irony and hypocrisy. A really large plank in the GOP's foundation is the conservative religious right's position on homosexuality. In his press conference where he came out he tried to play both sides of the fence on the gay marriage issue, because he's supported candidates in the past who are anti-gay all the way, including anti-gay marriage, and now he's gay and he doesn't want to lose any of those votes, either. He built his entire reputation on standing shoulder-to-shoulder (or cheek-to-cheek, if you will) with the GOP party and it's platforms. That's newsworthy, especially since he's a candidate for Congress.

When a very loud and outspoken conservative who appears walking along the fence side-by-side with John McCain in campaign ads comes out of the closet, that alone is newsworthy, especially when in those ads Paul Babeu looks at McCain and says, "You're one of us." You can't make that up.

Being gay doesn't mean you can't be a Republican or support someone that is against gay marriage. If he actively set out to persecute gays or went around beating them up then it could be viewed differently.

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Being gay doesn't mean you can't be a Republican or support someone that is against gay marriage. If he actively set out to persecute gays or went around beating them up then it could be viewed differently.

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How many openly gay Republican Congressmen do you know?
 

paullud

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How many openly gay Republican Congressmen do you know?

I don't follow the issue of sexual orientation of politicians since it is nothing more than gossip so I couldn't answer that. If a Republican or anyone decides to live in the closet what right does someone have to out that person. This reporter/gossip columnist wrote this with no other intention than to sell news product and attack a Republican. There are some serious reasons to doubt this story but they are perfectly willing to trample this man's wishes and integrity for their own gain.

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jaminjim

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Originally Posted by paullud
This reporter/gossip columnist wrote this with no other intention than to sell news product



Ragman said:
Is that not his job? :confused:
Nope, his job is to accurately report the news events of the day.



paullud said:
and attack a Republican.


Ragman said:
Nothing wrong with that.
IMHO
It would be great if they focused on the news regardless of who it was.
 
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