Trucking news from WashingtonD.C.

alborada

Seasoned Expediter
Trucker Robert Griffith is on the road three weeks out of four, pulling oversize loads like crane booms, railroad ties and air conditioning ducts. One of his biggest worries: How he'll find the money to buy his daughter a prom dress.

¶ As the cost of diesel doubled over the last four years, his take-home pay has plummeted, from $50,000 to $11,000 last year. He's literally burning money; he spent $64,000 on diesel in the last eight months. Since he canceled his satellite radio, he's on citizens band radio constantly (handle: Instigator) talking about what needs to change so truckers like him can survive.

¶ "I had to learn to live totally different," said Griffith, 41, of Lebanon, Tenn.

¶ No more $150 family outings to Shogun sushi. No more weekly washes for his Western Star 4900 EX truck. No more health insurance for him and his family.

¶ "It hurts," he said. "I'm a man who's trying to make a living for my family and I'm not succeeding."

¶ Trucking's owner-operators, the self-employed drivers who haul everything from Hummers to hay, are suffering. Many say they're running on the edge of bankruptcy, about to disappear unless they get help. While a wave of trucking failures now might be invisible to consumers, when the economy rebounds, it would push up shipping rates, helping increase prices.

¶ The housing downturn and decreased consumer spending have cut into loads; the extra trucking capacity is pushing down freight rates. Diesel prices, which are always higher in the winter, have hit such highs that Truckinginfo.com runs ads for thief-stopping fuel-tank locks.

¶ "If you can run all week without a flat tire, you're a little bit ahead, otherwise, you're basically just running to put the money right back into the fuel tank," said trucker Benjamin Stanley, 40, of Spotsylvania, Va. "Truckers are in the same spot farmers were in a few years back."

¶ Reposessor Nassau Asset Management repossessed 110 percent more trucks in 2007 than it did in 2006, according to president Edward Castagna. And it's taking less time to pick up a truck, which he sees as a sign that there's less work to keep them on the road _ and out of his reposessors' reach.

¶ "It used to take weeks, now it takes days or hours," he said.

¶ Industries that depend on independent truckers, like logging, are starting to suffer. Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a civil emergency at the end of November, speeding fuel tax reimbursements for logging truck operators and asking the Department of Transportation to identify roads that could tolerate logging-truck weight, allowing truckers to take more direct routes and save fuel.

¶ About nine percent of the nation's 3.4 million truck drivers are independent owner-operators, according to the Department of Labor. Without the independents, trucking will turn into a group of "regional and national oligopolies" that would send shipping prices higher when the economy improves, said John Saldanha, who teaches logistics at Ohio State University.

¶ A Baird & Co. research report said the one positive note is the likelihood of more bankruptcies could eventually push freight rates up for the survivors.

¶ Truckers, who felt unappreciated in the best of times, say they feel even more marginalized now.

¶ Rumors of a nationwide truck strike are a nearly annual occurrence _ but this year an effort in January generated more talk than usual on MySpace and the Sirius Satellite Radio show "Freewheelin.'"

¶ "If you eat it, drink it, wear it ... sit on it, if it is anything other than the air you breathe, an American truck driver made it possible!" wrote trucker Joe Misilewich of Norwich, New York in an e-mail. "Don't forget it! Without truckers, America is nothing!"

¶ Nanette Jenkins Rudd, 40, a third-generation trucker based in Mapleton, Ill., kept her five trucks off the road the week of the strike.

¶ "I pray that this strike is successful, so that we only have to stop rolling for a week _ and not forever," she said.

¶ Like other truckers, she's hoping for government help. "The government stepped in and helped the farmers when they were in trouble," she said. "Why? Because the farmers feed America, the farmers put food on the table. But who do you think delivers that food?"

¶ Truckers say they want caps on diesel prices, or tax credits for truckers, as well as increased regulation for the middlemen who broker truck loads.

¶ While independents struggle, the large public trucking companies seem to be on a different road. Their stocks have, for the most part, climbed since January.

¶ J.B. Hunt Transport Services Inc. and YRC Worldwide Inc., with more than 10,000 truck tractors each, buy everything from fuel to tractors in bulk. The big companies buy thousands of gallons of diesel at a time on the commodities market, then store at their depots; Griffith buys his at truck stop pumps, where prices increased 38 cents a gallon over two days last month.

¶ Independent truckers are increasingly dependent on freight brokers, middlemen who match shippers with drivers one load at a time, taking a cut for themselves. At one of the country's largest brokers, Landstar System, Inc., revenue from brokered loads was $525.9 million in 2006, double what it was two years before. But the company said it paid less for transportation in fiscal 2007, while its revenue per load was nearly flat at $1,612.

¶ A spokesman for Landstar could not be reached, despite repeated requests.

¶ At brokerage sites like getloaded.com and internettruckstop.com, freight rates are where they were in 2002, said Roger Carpenter, a Binghamton, N.Y. trucker who hauls dairy and chickens. The middlemen behind the boards "are so competitive, they chop each other's rates up like hungry dogs trying to get a scrap of meat," he said.

¶ Truckers complain that the brokerage system is unregulated and lacks transparency: They know what they're getting paid, but they don't know what the shippers are paying the brokers. They say they're also forbidden from showing the shippers their contracts. Many independents have a story about a shipper's shock after finding out what the trucker was being paid.

¶ A load traveling 800 miles that cost a shipper nearly $3,000 to send may pay the trucker $1,000, out of which the trucker would pay all expenses including fuel and insurance.

¶ "It's truly highway robbery," Misilewich said.

¶ Jim Butts, vice president of transportation at C.H. Robinson, a company whose business includes brokering loads, said his company serves truckers well, acting as their sales and marketing arm and paying them even when shippers fail to pay.

¶ "Not all these competitors are playing the same game and not all abide by the same rules," he said.

¶ Griffith, who's been driving a truck for 20 years, stopped working with brokers six months ago and started hauling specialized loads, which pay $2 or $3 a mile more than standard.

¶ Not that it's helping.

¶ Three-quarters of his pay is going to fuel and maintenance, up from half in the past. And how much work he can cram in is regulated, with the number of hours he can drive capped by federal regulations at 11 a day, all of which must be recorded in a log book.

¶ "People will say, 'Run harder,'" he said. "I can't run harder. You can't run beyond your log books."

¶ Back on the CB, "someone will get on about trucking, someone will get on about the fuel prices, then everyone will start arguing and cussing." Listen to CB for an hour he said, "you'll feel the animosity, the hatred, the despair."

¶ Griffith longs for the old Teamsters Union boss Jimmy Hoffa, who led truckers in their most powerful _ and profitable _ years. Hoffa disappeared in 1975 and was declared presumed dead in 1982.

¶ "We need to band together instead of fight each other and somebody needs to help us do that," he said. "I wish Jimmy Hoffa were still around."




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alborada

Seasoned Expediter
I just reciving this from her , it is not yet publish but will this comming days, if you have news or somthing to complaine call ger she is very good one and now she work over the trucking industry only . This is her maine target.
 

mypie

Seasoned Expediter
Sounds like the trucking industry is headed the same direction as .coms, techies, office, manufacturing, and auto.
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
I was listening to Kevin Rutherford on XM yesterday and he blasted this article point by point. It was an interesting show.
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
I was listening to Kevin Rutherford on XM yesterday and he blasted this article point by point. It was an interesting show.

Wow, I thought it was an interesting read. Pelicn can you recall what his problems were with it? I ask in that way because I personally have no memory and wouldn't be able to relay too much info.:eek:
 

dhalltoyo

Veteran Expediter
First, although I am saddened by the unfortunate demise of Mr. Hoffa, I would reject any attempt to have him involved in my business.

Second, most farmers I know are so overweight that they have joined a health spa in an attempt to lose the extra pounds bought about by technology farming; agricultural which has become "push button" as opposed to labor intensive. Gee, sort of like the trucking industry. Drive, eat, sit, drive, eat, sleep, sit, drive some more.

Handle freight! Do an oil change! Are you kidding. I want 100% "No touch" freight, somebody to wash my truck, change my wiper blades and do my log books for me.

Third, we have seen down turns in every industry before and we will see them again. Pick up a history book and read and learn. There is no new thing under the sun.

Finally, what a wonderful country in which to live. If I do not like what I am doing to make a living I have the freedom to try something else. Of course, I also have the freedom to gripe, complain, rebel, backbite and gossip, but such negativity serves no pratical, or positive, purpose.
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
Wow, I thought it was an interesting read. Pelicn can you recall what his problems were with it? I ask in that way because I personally have no memory and wouldn't be able to relay too much info.:eek:

I don't know if I can either....I've slept since then :eek:

Anyone who's listened to Kevin knows that he is all about slowing down, watching expenses and being a business person first.
He was basically saying that O/O's need to control their costs. That the article quotes people that want the government to step in and he didn't think that we needed any more gov regulation. Stuff like that.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I don't know if I can either....I've slept since then :eek:

Anyone who's listened to Kevin knows that he is all about slowing down, watching expenses and being a business person first.
He was basically saying that O/O's need to control their costs. That the article quotes people that want the government to step in and he didn't think that we needed any more gov regulation. Stuff like that.

I think it's abit too late for the government NOT to get involved in helping where they can...Afterall they created some of this mess...they can undo some of the damage...
I compare Hoffa to Hussien...a person everybody loved to hate...but was necessary.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
And what can government do?

They need to get the h*ll out of the way.

I read the article and as soon as the point was made about the $150 diner, it lost me and my sympathy forever. When you put in a paragraph that has something about a diner that most people don’t do and that he has no more health insurance for his family, it now sounds like he wants the government to bail him out.

Too bad, I don’t want government involved at that level. There is a huge difference between farming and trucking.

I read on about going along for a week without a flat tire? Oh come on, I don’t see trucks on the side of the road every day with flat tires. If you are fixing flats or repairing tires on a weekly basis, you should not be driving – with exceptions.

You know I try to tell people that it is not the government’s job to do a thing, thinking that there should be a cap on fuel prices, broker regulations all the wrong attitude – how about voting, how about using your power as a voter, or get off your a** and get engaged, or getting others engaged.

What I do want government to do is to take the states that receive federal money and stop them in their tracks on emissions and on toll roads. There is no excuse to have California telling us, interstate truckers that we can’t run in their state regardless what equipment we have. There is no excuse for states like Texas and Pennsylvania to deem an interstate highway a toll road after we, the tax payer already paid for that road. These two issues fly right in the face of the powers of the federal government and has been determined by the courts that both issues, among a lot of others can’t be regulated by the states because it really restricts interstate commerce.

But the absolutely best thing that can happen to this industry is replacing the tax system, there is no other way around the problems but this solution. I have said this before that until we stop this worrying about who makes what in this country by this industry, things will never change. Who cares what Bill Gates made, who cares what Phil made, you should only be concern with you when it comes to things like taxes. AND if you are truly one who has a focus on your own situation and trying to find solutions, then you will be voting, you will engage people and you will try to make it a better place for all of us.

At the end of the article, I read the same old BS about Hoffa. Most of you didn’t know him, Most of you didn’t know what he was doing and people look at him as some leader who was always there for truckers – wrong. If you want the corruption back, the political back room dealings and ‘you drive where we tell you and how we tell you” crap, then lets all join the Teamsters and get someone like him to lead them. There will be a price to pay for it.

Strike, give me a break… a strike will do nothing but piss people off even more. How about an education program for the public, have we seen any ads running anywhere telling people that trucking is a good thing and they should support it? I have not seen any political support for truckers in general, maybe we need a PAC that would educate truckers? When was the last time you talked to anyone about voting and how it really impacts the issues? Would you be willing to take some time and instead of being ‘paid tourist’ get a bunch of people together and meet with your representatives?
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Greg said "You know I try to tell people that it is not the government’s job to do a thing, thinking that there should be a cap on fuel prices, broker regulations all the wrong attitude – how about voting, how about using your power as a voter, or get off your a** and get engaged, or getting others engaged.

What I do want government to do is to take the states that receive federal money and stop them in their tracks on emissions and on toll roads. There is no excuse to have California telling us, interstate truckers that we can’t run in their state regardless what equipment we have. There is no excuse for states like Texas and Pennsylvania to deem an interstate highway a toll road after we, the tax payer already paid for that road. These two issues fly right in the face of the powers of the federal government and has been determined by the courts that both issues, among a lot of others can’t be regulated by the states because it really restricts interstate commerce."

When I said about the government created some problems, they should correct them or adjust them.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
When I said about the government created some problems, they should correct them or adjust them.

I know what you said but the article has an assumption that the government needs to take care of the truckers like they did for the farmers. You know we should have the mentality that the government needs to take care of no one and let the markets be free to do what they should be doing.

OVM, the biggest and most harmful problem is taxes. If you study the system and make a serious comparison to other countries, even Canada - you will find that we have the most punishing tax system in the world. We were sold this idea that it will remain a flat tax targeting the rich but has become a monster. If we can replace it with the Fair Tax, where there is no tax on income, we will see business come back here, we will see jobs and we will see real improvements. You can say right now that Michigan is a perfect example, no company wants to move there because of the taxes, we have a real VAT tax in the state and hidden taxes that just cost too much. Our governor refuses to support real tax reform at the same time lying about budget problems - we have not had jobs gains in 8 years. If we can remove that VAT tax, we can start attracting businesses.
 

Lawrence

Founder
Staff member
Expediters are not "independent truck drivers" or "independent truckers" or "independent owner operators" - they are leased Owner Operators.

Big...BIG DIFFERENCE in operations and commercial relationship to their carrier.

Know the difference!
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Expediters are not "independent truck drivers" or "independent truckers" or "independent owner operators" - they are leased Owner Operators.

Big...BIG DIFFERENCE in operations and commercial relationship to their carrier.

Know the difference!

So Lawrence, what's up with that? :)

Are we not all effected by the issues in the article?
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
That article was published in the business section of my local newspaper today. I often wonder why when the media publishes a story about trucking they try to pick out one of the worst individuals that they can find. Somehow in spite of the fuel increases I find it hard to believe that he took a $39,000 hit in revenue. Something doesn't add up.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
If, and I say if, this guy is doing specialized over size or permit hauling and he only made $11,000, he is clearly making some major errors in how he operates.

As for taxes, that is possibly some of the issue but I think there is a basket full of other issues that would apply as well.
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
Greg said: I read the article and as soon as the point was made about the $150 diner, it lost me and my sympathy forever. When you put in a paragraph that has something about a diner that most people don’t do and that he has no more health insurance for his family, it now sounds like he wants the government to bail him out.

I think he said a family outing, I have dropped $150.00 at a family outing, wife and her parents, my parents, and three kids. $16.00 per person. So does that mean you limit your family to hot dogs or what? Nit picking maybe. but who has not dropped 16 bucks each for dinner?
 
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arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
If, and I say if, this guy is doing specialized over size or permit hauling and he only made $11,000, he is clearly making some major errors in how he operates.

As for taxes, that is possibly some of the issue but I think there is a basket full of other issues that would apply as well.

I have to agree with you Dave. As some of you know my Dad is an independent owner operator. He owns his truck,lowboy trailer, and authority. When it comes to hauling a non "legal" load (overwidth,overheight,overlength,or overweight) he charges at least 3 bucks a mile. He has a steady customer that manufacters cat walks for graineries. The loads are usually overlength. Then if he can't find a non "legal" load he takes a legal load that pays decent as a backhaul. Of course he didn't jump into specialized the way it sounds this guy did. My dad started out hauling specialized with LoneStar. My stepmom doesn't even work , they have 2 teenagers at home, and they still live a decent life, and I know my dad isn't going to go into debt for anything except if it's medical bills. He would run up medical bills to make sure his family is taken care of, but that would be it.
 
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riverrat

Guest
we don't need government to set rates or cap fuel prices, what we DO need is oversite from the government on what the brokers do today 3 dollar freight gets bounced around by several agents who take cuts off it until it gets down to around 2 bucks a mile and then it finally hits a agent who then sends it to a truck at a buck 40 or 50,half of what the customer is paying to have moved.
The brokers are scamming everyone and are getting away with it there has to be some rules to the game they are playing and they need to be enforce the rules
 

Rocketman

Veteran Expediter
If you accept the load, your not being scammed. Someone else just got to the gravy before you did.

By no means am I saying the cheap freight is ok, but there's no need to blame somebody else for picking up a dollar when they see it.
 
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