Truck Driving Championships

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
We are learning more about the Truck Driving Championships from several different people not involved in Expediting.

The more we think about it the more we see the learning curve to become involved with this as a win win situation with us the winners.

CSA 2010 has encouraged us to learn more about the laws that effect us and how to find these rules. We are even more conscious making sure our lights are working at all times and that the truck is always in tip top shape.

We have looked at some of the requirements to become involved with the championships including what the driving course could look like and we are still interested in learning more.

I feel for our future that we cannot learn enough about this business and I see this as a intense and fun way to learn more from positive professionals.

I know a few of you have been involved with this and I would like to hear your thoughts on your experiences as it is a huge commitment.
 

bobwg

Expert Expediter
I my self was not involved but have friends that drive for Roadway/Yellow and Conway, and US Foods, went to the Missouri Truck driving Championships in Joplin some years back and watched the events it was fun to see the drivers going thru the different parts of the tests there is a written test, then a pre trip inspection test, and then the driving course you see straight trucks, doubles, and tractors with 48 and 53 foot trailers. My friends say that they practice after work and on weekends doing driving the course and going over the things that might be on the written test and the pretrip inspections
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I figure that if I can do my job and get back home alive, not get a ticket, not have an accident and deliver all my freight safely without a damaged freight claim, then I'm a champion.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
As far as I know they are not this event was cut out when they cut costs. We are looking at attending the state championships.

Greg that is a good point any day we get through with no problems is almost a miracle. Several times a day we can be cut off, have people pull in front of us and stop, we go through scales and are checked out to make sure we are safe and over all it either proves there are a lot of professional drivers or a lot of lucky drivers.

I figure the knowledge we will learn studying and practicing for this event will be good for us. The chances of doing well at the championships I am sure are slim to none, but you can bet I will be asking a lot of questions and trying to soak up an much information as I can.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Greg that is a good point any day we get through with no problems is almost a miracle. Several times a day we can be cut off, have people pull in front of us and stop, we go through scales and are checked out to make sure we are safe and over all it either proves there are a lot of professional drivers or a lot of lucky drivers.

I figure the knowledge we will learn studying and practicing for this event will be good for us. The chances of doing well at the championships I am sure are slim to none, but you can bet I will be asking a lot of questions and trying to soak up an much information as I can.

Not exactly what I am talking about but close enough for most. I'm going to sound like the typical negitive a**hole stick in the mud about this which I think - so

What I mean is that me as a professional, the need to learn more should never driven by an event but rather by the attitude to be the best I can be and do a professional job all the time hence always learning and obtaining new skills or sharpening the skills I already have AND if possible to help others to learn, obtain and sharpen their skills.

If we are to use an event as an excuse to learn more, then I think it puts this profession into the category that the public sees it as, nothing more than a job.

My goal is not to win an award from my peers but to survive a dangerous job which is no where close to being a miracle because I choose not to make it one by being vigilante as a professional. My prize is to return home by using my skills and experience, the credit I obtain is not from my peers but from knowing my attitude is the right one, which is respect for others on the road and concern for the safety of those around me.

A sad thing is that companies overlook this by having these events. It is like giving to help others, many equate these holidays as the time to give but truly those who understand and give all year long know what it is all about - the same is a professional, always learning, always vigilant for everyone.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
We are looking at attending the state championships.

Would this be the ATA Truck Driving Championship? I'm sure FedEx is a member of the American Trucking Associations. This should include all FedEx divisions and you and Bob as owner/operators.

I competed in the ATA Minnesota State Truck Driving Championship in 1989 or 1990 as a company driver. At the time I was running linehaul pulling doubles but entered the championship in the 5 axle flatbed class.

To be a serious competitor requires many hours of practice. We set up a practice course in our yard on Saturday mornings and did our thing. I was just coming off the road Saturday mornings and was tired, but still put in a couple of hours. I spent most of my time preparing for the driving portion of the competition and neglected the pre-trip. Hey, I was doing a pre-trip twice a night on my meet and turn, no need to practice.

In the championship I did fair on the driving portion and the interview. Aced the written and choked big time on the pre-trip. The flatbed trailer had two 4x4 timbers on the deck. One at the nose of the trailer and the other at the tail. Both were positioned perfectly across the deck of the trailer as if they belonged there. Had I physically touched these 4x4's like I did with every other pre-trip item I would have discovered they were not secured to the trailer deck. Obviously they were not chained or strapped but had I touched them and found them lose it may have occurred to me that this was a problem. Oh well!

Contestants do not drive their or own truck or even their company's truck. At work I was driving a single axle Ford LN9000. For the competition I chose a LN9000, but it was a twin screw since I was in the 5 axle class. We had no twin screws for me to practice with. I believe all tractors in the competition were day cabs. You and Bob would probably be driving a short wheelbase/box day cab. Not exactly something you are used to. Maybe the Fed could set you up with a company truck to practice with?

All in all I had fun. The regional safety manger took our team and spouses out for a nice dinner after. Our terminal manger wasn't very supportive, my kids were young at the time and I didn't devote enough time to practicing so I never entered another competition after that. Do they offer a cargo van category now?
 

TeamCaffee

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Staff member
Owner/Operator
Moot thank you for your reply and insight into what we are getting involved with!

As I understand it they no longer do the personal interviews.

The practice part scares me as we are not home often. I will be setting cones out at truck stops and practicing there. I had some tips from a FedEx Freight guy on tips to practice since we will not be driving our truck.

I have all ready started driving friends nuts since I have started reading the FMCSA big book and quoting stats and reference numbers. They are all learning right along with us.

The pre trip what can I say I am terrified of it. Terry O'Connell sent us some of the information he has on pre trips that I hope will be helpful.

After the first of the year FCC will also be sending us practice tests and info.

Any other hints you can share would sure be appreciated.

I do not remember seeing a van class in the info I have received.
 

gotta go

Veteran Expediter
The practice part scares me as we are not home often. I will be setting cones out at truck stops and practicing there. I had some tips from a FedEx Freight guy on tips to practice since we will not be driving our truck.

Linda, you may find that gallon water jugs can replace cones while you are practicing.
 

TeamCaffee

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We drink tons of water so we have lots of jugs and we also have orange cones. Thanks for the hint Gotta Go!
 

TeamCaffee

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Staff member
Owner/Operator
Oh ya from way back. I should use the full gallon jugs of water as incentive. If I run over one of those Bob would not be pleased.
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
We are learning more about the Truck Driving Championships from several different people not involved in Expediting.

The more we think about it the more we see the learning curve to become involved with this as a win win situation with us the winners.

CSA 2010 has encouraged us to learn more about the laws that effect us and how to find these rules. We are even more conscious making sure our lights are working at all times and that the truck is always in tip top shape.

We have looked at some of the requirements to become involved with the championships including what the driving course could look like and we are still interested in learning more.

I feel for our future that we cannot learn enough about this business and I see this as a intense and fun way to learn more from positive professionals.

I know a few of you have been involved with this and I would like to hear your thoughts on your experiences as it is a huge commitment.


Linda I hope you can do it. The ATA has the Truck Driving Championships each year in your home state. I did it in Ohio twice for FedEx Custom Critical. It was a great time and you learn a lot.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Linda, didn't you and or Bob participate in a driving contest at the FedEx CC 5 Star thing in Vegas a few years ago or did I dream that?

If you guys are serious about the ATA Driving Championship you should check with FedEx Freight. Do some online research as to how many drivers Freight has sent to the Missouri State Championship over the past few years. My guess would be most drivers came from the K.C. or St. Louis terminals. Is there a Freight terminal in Hannibal?

After you have some basic info call or write to the terminal manager. Explain a little about yourselves and ask if you can practice with their drivers. They may even allow you to practice with one of their straight trucks.

I would recommend all drivers participate once or at the very least attend as a spectator. I had fun and gained some insight and knowledge about myself, trucking and safety.

All of this Driving Championship talk sent me in search of a team photo I have of when I participated. I couldn't find the photo but did find the uniform shirt I wore back then. The photograph showed 7 truck drivers wearing white uniform shirts, brown necktie and brown pants, standing in front of a set of CCX doubles. For grungy truck drivers we cleaned up pretty well that day. Even Animal!
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TeamCaffee

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Owner/Operator
Wow Moot that is a cool photo.

I have been searching online like crazy. It appears to me and I am prejudiced as everyone knows that FedEx does very very well at these championships.

I believe Michelle is getting me the info for the terminals in the area and we will be contacted them. I have also ordered the video of last years championship and also last years study guide.

We did participate in a skills challenge a couple years ago at the office and did well. It was for fun though and as such that is how I treated it. Ok I will brag some I won over 17 guys.... Moot that was fun and games though and I had Molly in the front seat and was chatting with her and was not worried at all as I knew I was not going to do well.

What I do want to do is start practicing the skills part each and every time I back into a dock or a truck stop. I need to practice more on turning corners tight. What concerns me and something I have a difficult time with is stopping at a line in front of the truck. I was told was I need to start watching my front wheel and judging that distance.

I believe we will be winners in this as we will be even more aware of where our vehicle positioned in the road way at all times and I know I all ready know tons more on regulations then I did. Now on that darn pre trip... I need a lot of help.
 

BigBusBob

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Bob and Linda, I know there is also a bus driving championship competition that I've come close to competing in. Again, you don't get to use "your" bus... I've talked in the past with drivers who have competed in these driving competitions and it's no play thing. it's the real deal and they do throw some serious curve balls your way to try to basically force you to use ALL of your Skills. They've always said parallel parking was a challenge. in trailer operations it can be just as daunting. I've heard there are some competitions (not really organized) that put trailers behind the busses to test their skills further. The entertainment business is really the only portion of the bus industry that uses trailers anymore, Greyhound used to back in the day up north for their parcel operation- but has discontinued use of them now. I have to agree with Greg in that if I can operated it safely and get the freight and/or people there as close to legal as possible then I've done my job. I've "competed" in driving "contests" in the past on bus yards and in hotel/venue lots where drivers have tested their skills amongst each other (alway with company permission of course).... and it can actually be fun. The trick is to look at as you are... a learning experience. Your arms will get tired, and when in doubt walk it out. try to practice in a shopping mall lot on a decent day, and test your skills by Not getting out of the truck. You can also practice by loading docks of abandoned malls and/or stores. Sometimes they make for great practice area's due to the tight quarters of some of them. Try putting it into a hole on the other side of the outside trailer, see how fun that is!!! Enjoy!!! and be safe.
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
Wow Moot that is a cool photo.

I have been searching online like crazy. It appears to me and I am prejudiced as everyone knows that FedEx does very very well at these championships.

I believe Michelle is getting me the info for the terminals in the area and we will be contacted them. I have also ordered the video of last years championship and also last years study guide.

We did participate in a skills challenge a couple years ago at the office and did well. It was for fun though and as such that is how I treated it. Ok I will brag some I won over 17 guys.... Moot that was fun and games though and I had Molly in the front seat and was chatting with her and was not worried at all as I knew I was not going to do well.

What I do want to do is start practicing the skills part each and every time I back into a dock or a truck stop. I need to practice more on turning corners tight. What concerns me and something I have a difficult time with is stopping at a line in front of the truck. I was told was I need to start watching my front wheel and judging that distance.

I believe we will be winners in this as we will be even more aware of where our vehicle positioned in the road way at all times and I know I all ready know tons more on regulations then I did. Now on that darn pre trip... I need a lot of help.

Michelle is really good about getting the info you need. She help me the two years I did it for FedEx Custom Critical. I was still at FedEx the year you won the skills challenge. You did a great job and I hope you do well in your home state ATC. :)
 
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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
We are learning more about the Truck Driving Championships from several different people not involved in Expediting.

The more we think about it the more we see the learning curve to become involved with this as a win win situation with us the winners.

CSA 2010 has encouraged us to learn more about the laws that effect us and how to find these rules. We are even more conscious making sure our lights are working at all times and that the truck is always in tip top shape.

We have looked at some of the requirements to become involved with the championships including what the driving course could look like and we are still interested in learning more.

I feel for our future that we cannot learn enough about this business and I see this as a intense and fun way to learn more from positive professionals.

I know a few of you have been involved with this and I would like to hear your thoughts on your experiences as it is a huge commitment.

Diane and I competed in the National Truck Driving Championships in June, 2008. My report about it is published on my web site.

Comments in response to your post:

- Don't rule out winning at the state level and advancing to the nationals. First-time contestants have done so before.

- Preparing for the NTDC (National Truck Driving Championships) will do nothing to improve your CSA compliance skills. CSA compliance means fulfilling the requirements of a particular set of rules that you already know how to fulfill.

Comparing CSA compliance to NTDC (National Truck Driving Championships) competition is like comparing a walk in the park to an Olympic foot race. In the latter, so much more is involved and the competition is intense. In the former, all that is required to "win" is to complete a walk in the park. It is not a competitive event. It does not matter what other park walkers do. You complete your walk and that's it.

There are no CSA bonus points awarded for NTDC participation. If your required lamps all work, they won't burn any brighter because you competed in the NTDC.

- You said, "I see this as a intense and fun way to learn more from positive professionals." You are correct and you cannot understate "intense." Veteran competitors give up weekends, week nights and vacation time to study and practice. They memorize everything in the Facts for Drivers book on which the written test is based. The winners have perfect or nearly perfect scores on the written test.

In our state competition, the vast majority of competitors were company drivers who worked out of terminals. They were always home and always close to friends who also compete and to trucks similar to the trucks used in the contest. Unlike expediters, their schedules are predictable. It is easier for them to build weeks and months of study and practice time into their lives than it is for expediters.

Diane and I did not know what we were getting into when we agreed to compete. After we found out, we gave it our best in the little time we had to prepare and decided that if we finished better than last place it would be a victory for us. We did not win but did not finish last either.

A good approach to your first competition is to be open to the possibility that you might win and train as if you mean to. At the same time, view the entire experience as a practice event so when you come back next year you will truly know what you are in for.

- You will not be able to drive your own truck in the competition and will not know what truck you will drive until you see it before you drive it. So too with all other contestants, but some of them end up driving a truck that is identical to the one they have driven every day for the last two years.

Some of the competitors prepare by visiting truck dealerships and test driving a variety of trucks. They explain to a cooperative dealer what they are up to. They draw charts and take notes about seat position, window shape and height, steering wheel characteristics, etc. They drive these trucks around spots on the ground to "get their marks" as they say.

You probably have your marks on your truck. You know exactly when to cut the wheels to the right to make the tight turn without curbing a tire. You know exactly when to stop at a dock without actually bumping it. When you back into a parking spot at a shopping mall, you don't have to get out and look to know exactly where your back bumper is when you set your brake. Some competitors spend time in a variety of trucks, to get these same marks to make themselves that much more ready for the truck and the course they will drive in competition.

- Diane and I did not compete a second time but heard from friends that the festivities related to the competition were greatly toned down. The recession was on and ATA members contributed less money and time to the contest. There was a wonderful banquet for us. It did not happen in 2009. Had we advanced, FedEx would have sent us to an all expenses paid FedEx competition which served as a good practice event for those going to the nationals. That event did not happen in 2009. They may have brought it back this year. I don't know.

- We benefited greatly from the help and coaching new FedEx friends gave us in Minnesota. We were welcomed with open arms by people at FedEx Express in Minneapolis. They let us use their trucks to practice on the practice course they had set up at the airport facility. One competitor even made a special trip in from home to coach us for an afternoon.

- One thing that completely threw me off in the pre-trip part of the contest was pre-tripping a truck I had never seen before. You wear coveralls and crawl under the truck to find planted defects in this timed event. Seeing a truck's underside that I had never seen before threw off my game and I did poorly in this part of the contest. Diane had the same issue but kept her head. She out scored me in this contest component and out scored almost everyone on the written test. She got one written test answer wrong. I got two wrong, which put me not that far back from perfect but in a much larger group of competitors.

If I had it to do over again, I would do something that would lead many expediters to believe I had gone totally mad, but I would do it anyway. At a truck stop, I would explain to fellow expediters that I wanted to build familiarity with the uderside of different trucks and tell them why. If permission was granted, I would have Diane time me with a stopwatch as I pre-tripped that truck bumper to bumper, top, bottom and under; calling out loud each component as I inspected it. That would give me a better sense of the components and of where I needed to be on the truck as the clock ticked. You want to use all the time you have to find as many defects as possible and finish the entire truck just as the time runs out.

Those are the thoughts that come to mind at the moment. Read my web site for more. There is a great deal of help available from FedEx and your fellow competitors for those who seek it. But the financial sacrifice, personal commitment and time you put into this can only come from you.

Notwithstanding the financial and personal costs, NTDC competition is fun and worth doing at least once. Regardless of your score, there is no question that competing in this contest will make you a better and more professional truck driver than you already are.
 
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Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Notwithstanding the financial and personal costs, NTDC competition is fun and worth doing at least once. Regardless of your score, there is no question that competing in this contest will make you a better and more professional truck driver than you already are.
I agree! I had fun and the practice and participation made me a better driver. I am not a competitive person by nature and I don't take much in life seriously other than family.

I got talked into this competition for the good of the company and to fill out a full team. A colleague had already chosen the "doubles" slot which left me with the tanker or flatbed. I opted for the flatbed which seemed easier than the tanker since I had some flatbed experience. Being that I hadn't driven a 5 axle single trailer unit in a few years it also gave me a good excuse if I did poorly. It's always nice to have a mental "out" even if nobody else buys into it!

I didn't win and I didn't finish last. Yes it is competitive. Very competitive. But it's a somewhat friendly and helpful competitiveness. Don't let it scare you off. Have fun, do your best and become a better driver and better person. If you don't compete at least attend as a spectator. You won't regret it and the price of admission is free.

Phil, where did you compete? When I was in it way back when, it was at the Apache Mall in St. Antony.

Bob and Linda, go for it! If you don't win at least you had fun, learned and experienced something many others haven't. Good luck and don't get smoked by those Con-Way drivers. (insert smiley face here)
 
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